lock kill

[Colt 1911]

These would be so easy to make. Might have to disable your locks in a bug out !!

http://www.itstactical.com/skillcom...ntly-disable-a-household-lock-with-lock-kill/

 

[Clyde]

These would be so easy to make. Might have to disable your locks in a bug out !!

http://www.itstactical.com/skillcom...ntly-disable-a-household-lock-with-lock-kill/

Cool concept. I think I may have to make sure I have these.

 

[Colt 1911]

Blanks are 1.80 at home depot, just need a dremel to cut it. super fast way to disable a lock.

 

[Clyde]

Blanks are 1.80 at home depot, just need a dremel to cut it. super fast way to disable a lock.

They do look super easy to make. I have already told the wife I will be making these. besides it gives me an excuse to go buy the long sought after Dremel Tool!

 

[Colt 1911]

They do look super easy to make. I have already told the wife I will be making these. besides it gives me an excuse to go buy the long sought after Dremel Tool!

gotta love that, i bought a cheap one at harbor fright and it SUCKS, get a good one.

 

[Clyde]

gotta love that, i bought a cheap one at harbor fright and it SUCKS, get a good one.

Thanks for the warning! I will go to lowes instead! Military gets a 10% discount there.

 

[Colt 1911]

$ 1.80 blank from home depot an 2 min on the dremel
Instant kill key !

 

[Clyde]

$ 1.80 blank from home depot an 2 min on the dremel
Instant kill key !
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sweet! I like it. I will be making some for me as well. you could use these to mess with someone with whom you dislike... LOL

 

[Colt 1911]

sweet! I like it. I will be making some for me as well. you could use these to mess with someone with whom you dislike... LOL

Roger that !!!

 

[Hades]

Can anyone truly tell me a situation where this item would be of value?
(Exept just to mess with people right now.)

 

[Colt 1911]

Well if i have to bug out, I am snapping them off in all my locks. I am not going to make anything easy for anyone. "Not my style"

 

[Hades]

LOL, alllrrighty then.
although it is against "my style"
I have no further comment at this time.

 

[Colt 1911]

LOL, alllrrighty then.
although it is against "my style"
I have no further comment at this time.

GOOD ! Thank you

 

[Clyde]

LOL, alllrrighty then.
although it is against "my style"
I have no further comment at this time.

What is your style then?

 

[Hades]

My "style" is generally to help anyone about anything to help them see another angle.

But I feel colt 1911 is beginning to feel like I am picking on him so I refrained.
Working with men is like working with oak, bend it too far it breaks.
Steam, bend, wait. Steam, bend, wait.
To just come out and say that is the 8th most rediculous thing I have ever heard, might have been too much yesterday.
To EVEN waste the energy on such thoughts I have no choice but to shake my head at.

OK bug out time, get bags, get wife, allrighty then you ready baby, hang on just a second I need to break these keys off in the locks, drain the hot water heater , and flatten the tires on that other car, so they dont get jack diddle diddle from here.

Yes I built on to the 1 thought with 2 more of equal signifigence, But that should put enough light on idea, for most to be able to see it is a wasted effort. Its just one more plane of thought that should be used on something constructive. Furthermore, anyone whom would need in your home, after you leave it, is just trying to survive. They had no plan, but they are still trying.

At the point you leave you have realized that the material value of the items in your home is not near the value of your lives, You have planned for the possobilities. The quilts, string, coathangers, notebook/printer paper even the copper wire and pipes in your home will be tradeable assets, to those forced to stay behind in a seriously prolonged disaster.

Anyone over the age of 14 (most likely 10 in the city) dont need a key to go through a door.

The time it takes to play with the key idea, could be much more productive thinking about adding an average of 250 cubic foot of storage space over your head in the garage with dropdown shelves, that restrict 0% of the floorspace, or any of a spectrum of other places in a home.

Just a thought.

 

[Colt 1911]

Do you tell your guys how to wipe there ass ? You talk like a know it all, wonder if you really have any outdoor skills, scout leader huh, kind of sums it up. Not everything works for everybody, that's why there is a forum to bounce ideas around. Its not just what you think is right. Calm down dude !!

 

[Hades]

No colt, I do not tell them how to wipe thier butt, but if i happened to see them struggling trying to do it from over thier shoulders. I would feel compelled to help with some thoughts about it LOL.

As far as knowing everything, I will not go that far. I am trying to help people. Where you are is where I was many years ago, If you think you have time to make every mistake I did, be my guest. Some need to cut thier own trails. Others prefer to go places like this and learn from others mistakes.
I am nothing more than an example of many, many, many mistakes that have been corrected. I still seek confirmation on the outcome of many more choices I have made and will make.

Just FYI My sons are grown now and I am no longer A Scout Master. Though you say it like a slur, The #1 first item I would recommend a doomsdayer to find would be a Boy scout hand manual. If you had nothing in your pocket you could survive in the woods with nothing more, primitive, but survivable.

I will say I am sorry for offending you, I did not mean to.
I will say what I think needs said, not what I think people want to hear.
I agree with you completely
" that's why there is a forum to bounce ideas around"
I just took my turn in bouncing the idea, nothing more.
I have not said anything I would say was wrong, though if you think I have I would recomend reporting me.
If you feel I have nothing to offer you, there is always an ignore button in the menu.
I think I have much to offer here



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[Clyde]

I prefer to learn from other's mistakes as I have made enough of my own to float a battleship on!

Can anyone truly tell me a situation where this item would be of value?
(Exept just to mess with people right now.)

For temporary fire evacuations. Something that happens around southern california quite frequently.I know it will cost a few dollars to repair the lock, and I know it won't stop the looter from breaking a window. But it may help keep the semi-honest people honest.

 

[Clyde]

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I am always here alone with 16 visitors every hour.
You are checking it out to either learn or see if we are worthy your time.
Sign up and lets find out which one it is.

Priceless! Couldn't have said it better! Thank you!!
I may allow people to see 3 posts then the site locks you from reading anymore posts until you fully register.

 

[Hades]

I prefer to learn from other's mistakes as I have made enough of my own to float a battleship on!

For temporary fire evacuations. Something that happens around southern california quite frequently.I know it will cost a few dollars to repair the lock, and I know it won't stop the looter from breaking a window. But it may help keep the semi-honest people honest.

Thats interesting concept............for the moment I am almost speechless.
Give me a while to ponder semi-honest people.
I will take a jacuzzi, while trying to figure out just what kind of cat would not just be detered with a locked door, but would have what he needs to pick it, but just has too much respect for your stuff to put his shoulder or foot into it.

At this time I reserve the right to rereply to this message at any time in the future, on this or any other post where it may be detremental to make a point of the art of thinking. (or lack of) I also reserve the right to change my mind, at this point or any other and agree that that is just a damn good idea that has brought to our attention.(though at this time I am unwilling and unable to do so) **All things said by me are of my opinion only and should have no physical nor phychological effect on others**, though some of my opinions have a tendancy to mentally pop peoples fingers around my neck.

I guess I lied I wasnt that speechless LOL
I also dont need that long to think about it.


Hey I am just man enough to agree to disagree about this one.

 

[Clyde]

Thats interesting concept............for the moment I am almost speechless.
Give me a while to ponder semi-honest people.
I will take a jacuzzi, while trying to figure out just what kind of cat would not just be detered with a locked door, but would have what he needs to pick it, but just has too much respect for your stuff to put his shoulder or foot into it.

At this time I reserve the right to rereply to this message at any time in the future, on this or any other post where it may be detremental to make a point of the art of thinking. (or lack of) I also reserve the right to change my mind, at this point or any other and agree that that is just a damn good idea that has brought to our attention.(though at this time I am unwilling and unable to do so) **All things said by me are of my opinion only and should have no physical nor phychological effect on others**, though some of my opinions have a tendancy to mentally pop peoples fingers around my neck.

I guess I lied I wasnt that speechless LOL
I also dont need that long to think about it.


Hey I am just man enough to agree to disagree about this one.

I guess I should redefine semi-honest "opportunist." I agree after reflecting what is "semi-honest!"
I know desperation will cause people to act in ways they normally wouldn't.

I also like your "disclaimer!"

 

[TBob]

Maybe in the case of a steel security door, but in a home? Many won't be carrying a lock pick set, they'll just boot it if they want in.

 

[Maverick]

I like this, I can see were this would be useful in certain circumstances, delay tactic forcing the BG to spend additional time in one location etc..

 

[TBob]

I like this, I can see were this would be useful in certain circumstances, delay tactic forcing the BG to spend additional time in one location etc..

The only way I see this as useful is on a high security door, that can't be shouldered or kicked open. Otherwise it wouldn't really be any use. If it's YOUR door, the BG wouldn't have a key and would kick it open anyway...if it was HIS door, it would only take a few extra seconds to figure out the lock was FUBAR and kick it open.

I'm not arguing, I'm just looking for why it's a good thing, and what circumstances you can see it being used for.

 

[Maverick]

The only way I see this as useful is on a high security door, that can't be shouldered or kicked open. Otherwise it wouldn't really be any use. If it's YOUR door, the BG wouldn't have a key and would kick it open anyway...if it was HIS door, it would only take a few extra seconds to figure out the lock was FUBAR and kick it open.

I'm not arguing, I'm just looking for why it's a good thing, and what circumstances you can see it being used for.

A secured/semi-secured door is what I was thinking, if it causes one to pause, think and or obtain additional resources to get through the door then the 'lock-kill' done it's job, anything that makes it difficult or grants me enough time to put distance between me and them served it's purpose.

 

[TheShadowKnows]

I'm with TraderB on this one but I guess it really depends on the kinds of doors you have at your setup. Me, I've got a crummy old house with more access points than you can shake a machete at and if we tried to reinforce them all, the walls probably wouldn't be too hard to get through. Most people are going to try and kick/shoulder down a door instead of pick it anyway. I certainly don't have a pick set, much less any knowledge at all on how to use one.

 

[Maverick]

like any other tool in a shtf, it's situational

 

[Maverick]

...also, someone kicking the door in is certainly louder then using a lock pick, I'd rather them come in noisy then silently

 

[TheShadowKnows]

...also, someone kicking the door in is certainly louder then using a lock pick, I'd rather them come in noisy then silently

Very good point.

 

[Gazrok]

The only way I see this as useful is on a high security door, that can't be shouldered or kicked open. Otherwise it wouldn't really be any use. If it's YOUR door, the BG wouldn't have a key and would kick it open anyway...if it was HIS door, it would only take a few extra seconds to figure out the lock was FUBAR and kick it open.

Fair point. Personally, I use kick plates and top/bottom pin locks for exterior doors. Replaced the interior door handles with exterior, locking ones too. (previously, I could open the bedroom doors with a steak knife and about 2 seconds of time).

That said, I can't think where I'd actually want to use such a key. Even if I had to abandon my bug in location, I'd eventually want to come back (and have a functioning lock). And the chances of them changing the lock (where from?) are pretty slim, so it gives me a way back in.

Maybe in the case of a steel security door, but in a home? Many won't be carrying a lock pick set, they'll just boot it if they want in.

Lock picks or not, that's why some good old fashioned slide bolts are handy. I only use them when we're home, and then after dark, when we shut and lock the main gate (unless expecting company after dark). Even if they pick the deadbolt and doorknob, they still have the equivalent of 2 deadbolts they can't get to from outside. (and the shop door is a metal security door, good luck with that one!) Nothing is perfect of course, but should really cost an intruder some time (and involve a lot of noise). Enough to get the dogs stirred up, and for me to grab a shotgun.