Meanwhile in Venezuela...
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Venezuela Adds to Chaos With One of Biggest Currency Devaluations Ever
https://www.bloombergquint.com/glob...adds-to-turmoil-after-drone-attack#gs.XltAJeE
https://www.bloombergquint.com/glob...adds-to-turmoil-after-drone-attack#gs.XltAJeE
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...rices-shed-5-zeros/ar-BBMaSBF?ocid=spartandhp
MSN reports an outlook of one million percent inflation is probable by the end of the year. They had it good for 10 plus years but the upper muckety mucks scammed the people out of the money when they should have been fixing the infrastructure, etc. In my opinion.
MSN reports an outlook of one million percent inflation is probable by the end of the year. They had it good for 10 plus years but the upper muckety mucks scammed the people out of the money when they should have been fixing the infrastructure, etc. In my opinion.
Like how does calling a holiday and cutting zeros off of the money going to help?
I would to see someone do an analysis (I'm not qualified) of what we--as preppers--can learn from Venezuela, with regard to how we should prep.
I've put aside small amounts of silver and gold, but I would like better ideas.
I've put aside small amounts of silver and gold, but I would like better ideas.
Good idea. I guess all we can do as far as prepping is take the well rounded approach. The saying of don’t put all your eggs in one basket is wise. If you cover as many bases as you can with prepping within your economic means then you’re doing the best you can already. I kind of feel that ones location/home is probably one of the most important prep you can do. Is it a location that can be sustainable, defendable, access to water, etc. if it’s not then begin taking steps to be somewhere where you can feel more secure.
I don't have much in money, but I do have more than what I need in other areas, such as food, tools,seeds. I have some jewelry I can melt down if I need to.
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I guess one takeaway would be that the descent into hell might be like a slow motion train wreck and take years to get from stability to total chaos.
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I agree 100% you must watch for the signs of the times. It is a slow rise to the boiling point, it does not happen suddenly.
Exactly, ask this question. Can you survive without the infrastructure? Can you survive without the governments help? If you answer no then you have some work to do.
Additionally, I often ask myself can I get by without being attached to the grid? I have water, I have wood for heat, I have a woodstove sitting in the garage just in case. I have enough food for 2 years or more and have seeds to plant at the next season.
The key word is Defendable. I have read many,many posts about growing food and raising critters but all of the posts are on homesteads designed for normal living. The crops are out in the wide open fields. The critters are in the wide open fields. The houses have all these wonderful first floor windows and wooden doors and door jambs. Trees and shrubs are grow close to the house to provide shade and improve appearances. The point I am driving home is, most preppers do not spend much time or money on improving the defense of their locations. Some may have bug out plans if SHTF but do they have a defensive plans in case they have to defend their location. Some say they are going to stay and fight it out but have never planned out a defensive procedure. How are you going to block the entrances (front and rear) or defend / block windows? what are you fall back positions in the house or barn or equipment shed? Saying talking about what you are intending to do is easy. The hard part is how you are going to be able to get it done.
Very few modern homes are built to stop even a 22cal bullet from penetrating the walls. Without having to completely rebuild your home, maybe get a couple pieces of furniture that could double as a bullet proof barrier to hide behind?
Venezuelan Refugees Face Violence And Closed Borders As They Try To Flee
Just saw this link. Just another example of how dangerous the world has gotten.
Just saw this link. Just another example of how dangerous the world has gotten.
Well, that was supposed to be an NPR article about violence at the borders of Venezuela as thousands are trying to flee the country and its impoverished neighbors don’t want them. Just reminded me of how smart the Jews that left Germany early were.
I have done what I can afford to do. I have reinforced the doors and locks, I am considering purchasing some sheets of plywood to go over some openings. Buying and installing bullet proof shutters, plate steel, etc, is not anything I would ever be able to afford. I cannot build a house of block and stone or afford expensive fencing. I have what I have and I just have to live with it or die with it as the case may be. I know what to do and what needs to be done but it takes money to be able to do it. Meanwhile I have bills to pay and groceries to buy.
I had heard that the people were racing back to their own borders because of violence to them in Brazil but had not seen an article yet. I really think making the decision to leave early would be very difficult but the best thing to do.
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/20/6403...olence-and-closed-borders-as-they-try-to-flee
Here's the address for the story
I am not very good at Spanish but I think one of the leaders of Ecuador who is over humanitarian issues from the exterior is trying to coordinate relief efforts with the UN and other international organizations to provide food, health care and hygiene assistance to the refugees.
We are sending one medical ship to the area in a month or so. I still personally think we were the major cause of this humanitarian disaster and hope we learn one day to stop telling other countries how they should live.
I don't understand that part of the US being the major cause of the economic failure of Venezuela. I think the corrupt government and the fall of oil prices were the major contributers.
We are the major reason for this mess. Our govt decided we didn’t like theirs and put sanctions on them, adding more and more over time. The falling oil prices hurt too, but the sanctions did most of it. As far as what they did to warrant sanctions, well, I can’t find any major offenses that they did. I only searched for a little bit on the web but came up empty on hard facts. I’m open to any input from anyone that finds any hard facts.
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Sanctions were primarily against individuals, not the country as a whole. Here is Obama's reason:
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Venezuela shot themselves in the foot. When you confiscate (steal) business's, it limits the number of companies and investors that want to come to your country. Venezuela NATIONALIZED (stole) many companies and ruined entire industries. Now nobody wants to invest in their country and they do not have the skill set and now money to keep thing going. They are sitting on top of one of the worlds largest oil reserves and can't pump it out at a rate that would even cover their own needs, much less have any to sell. They would be an oil importer now, If they had any money to buy oil. The only thing that keeps their president in power is the Military and the fact all the firearms were collected in the past as a SAFETY precaution against the gangs. Now only the military and the GANGS have firearms. Socialist doctrine all the way down the line, with all the typical socialist results.
Venezuela shot themselves in the foot. When you confiscate (steal) business's, it limits the number of companies and investors that want to come to your country. Venezuela NATIONALIZED (stole) many companies and ruined entire industries. Now nobody wants to invest in their country and they do not have the skill set and now money to keep thing going. They are sitting on top of one of the worlds largest oil reserves and can't pump it out at a rate that would even cover their own needs, much less have any to sell. They would be an oil importer now, If they had any money to buy oil. The only thing that keeps their president in power is the Military and the fact all the firearms were collected in the past as a SAFETY precaution against the gangs. Now only the military and the GANGS have firearms. Socialist doctrine all the way down the line, with all the typical socialist results.
I read the general reasons above posted by doc, but didn’t see any specific cases of the abuses. I’m not saying there weren’t abuses, just looking for solid examples. I think at this point the country is beyond saving and is a total mess. The problem with that is when things collapse it leaves a void. What kind of govt rises from the ashes is yet to be seen. It could be worse than this.
I think those who dont understand what happened in Venezuala should move there and investigate it by talking to the people there to find out first hand. Understand the mentality and listen to the excuses. Find out what the people and the government believed both before and after there collapse. After this intensive investigation I'm sure it will sound very familiar to you. It will be very close to those you have been listening to and believing in the Democratic party leadership and the far left in US. If you still believe the same way as you did before going there, then you should stay there.
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Brent, Google these for details:
Cartel of the Suns
Narcosobrinos affair
Diosdado Cabello
Crisis in Bolivarian Venezuela
2017 Venezuelan constitutional crisis
Economic policy of the Nicolás Maduro administration
Cartel of the Suns
Narcosobrinos affair
Diosdado Cabello
Crisis in Bolivarian Venezuela
2017 Venezuelan constitutional crisis
Economic policy of the Nicolás Maduro administration
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You can go back to the 50's... But here in the 70's
several steps in the direction of nationalization of its oil industry. In August 1971, under the presidency of Rafael Caldera, a law was passed that nationalized the country's natural gas industry. Also in 1971 the law of reversion was passed which stated that all the assets, plant, and equipment belonging to concessionaires within or outside the concession areas would revert to the nation without compensation upon the expiration of the concession.[8] The movement towards nationalism was experienced once again under decree 832. Decree 832 stipulated that all exploration, production, refining, and sales programs of the oil companies had to be approved in advance by the Ministry of Mines and Hydrocarbons.[8]
Basically saying that when their lease expires, US ag and oil interests, plants that US businesses had funded and built, would be nationalised.
The socialist governments of Venezuala have been playing that game a long time.
Obviously, big business has big lobbying firms, to push for and prolong sanctions.
And the US likes to meddle. It's a thing we do.
several steps in the direction of nationalization of its oil industry. In August 1971, under the presidency of Rafael Caldera, a law was passed that nationalized the country's natural gas industry. Also in 1971 the law of reversion was passed which stated that all the assets, plant, and equipment belonging to concessionaires within or outside the concession areas would revert to the nation without compensation upon the expiration of the concession.[8] The movement towards nationalism was experienced once again under decree 832. Decree 832 stipulated that all exploration, production, refining, and sales programs of the oil companies had to be approved in advance by the Ministry of Mines and Hydrocarbons.[8]
Basically saying that when their lease expires, US ag and oil interests, plants that US businesses had funded and built, would be nationalised.
The socialist governments of Venezuala have been playing that game a long time.
Obviously, big business has big lobbying firms, to push for and prolong sanctions.
And the US likes to meddle. It's a thing we do.
I believe your right about the oil business being taken is probably the main reason for the sanctions. I really didn’t find any major human rights abuses or anything like the taking of Crimea, some minor things but nothing big.
