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Sorry, but trump is nuts. He is impulsive, childish and immoral. Get a clue folks, this guy is dangerous for the country. Sorry, but I can’t believe people still stand with this guy.
Ok, let the bashing begin.....
Hey Brent, come on in to the light before it's too late for you. It's better over here. You've been on the dark side for so long that I think you're actually starting to believe the gibberish from the Left. Trump's doing a great job. Just look at the numbers.
Ok, I'm done bashing you......for now.
 
@Brent S
Yes President Trump is crude and rude but you forget another rhyming word, shrewd. He has out maneuvered all of his opponents to date. Mexico is out of NAFTA and a new deal is being configured. Canada is going to fold next. You are used to mealy mouthed politicians who smile, and then stab you in the back. President Trump calls a spade a spade and folks are not used to it and get hurt feelings. Economy is up, employment is up. Border security is better and all this in less that 2 full years. Obuma had 8 years and just drove us 20 trillion into debt. Granted Obuma was an elegant speaker and could look you in the eye and lie with a a complete straight face. Remember--- You can keep you doctor or your health plan---. I can deal with the fact crudely put verses the elegant and polite lies.
 
@Brent S
Yes President Trump is crude and rude but you forget another rhyming word, shrewd. He has out maneuvered all of his opponents to date. Mexico is out of NAFTA and a new deal is being configured. Canada is going to fold next. You are used to mealy mouthed politicians who smile, and then stab you in the back. President Trump calls a spade a spade and folks are not used to it and get hurt feelings. Economy is up, employment is up. Border security is better and all this in less that 2 full years. Obuma had 8 years and just drove us 20 trillion into debt. Granted Obuma was an elegant speaker and could look you in the eye and lie with a a complete straight face. Remember--- You can keep you doctor or your health plan---. I can deal with the fact crudely put verses the elegant and polite lies.
As I’ve mentioned earlier, I am not just across the board against any idea that trump has. I don’t care which party he, or anyone, is affiliated with. I do care about his ability to govern though. As far as Obama’s driving us further into debt, if you do the math, the new tax cuts and budgets are going to surpass those amounts. Even the unemployment and economic issues cannot be claimed solely by the current administration. Lots of factors influence the economy, and take years before showing results. The main reasons I blurted out my disbelief of people still supporting him is his mental state. He isn’t sly like a fox, he’s just erratic as hell. He creates chaos in almost everything he does and incites racism and division. I get that most, myself included, were sick of the average sleazy politicians, but swinging this far out was kind of like shooting yourself in the foot. I’m not just whining about the Democratic Party loosing here, as I really don’t associate myself with either party, but am simply stating the obvious here, the man is dangerous. His childish tantrums and outbursts have caused real harm to our influence and reputation to the world. I guess one analogy I like to use in life is if you’re questioning someone’s ability to lead and influence, think about if you would use them as a role model to teach your children how to be. I would gladly take almost any other republican candidate, so again this isn’t partisan. I personally think his daughter would do a good job. All I can say for sure is time will tell how good of a job he does. Give it two more years and see how the economy and the US’s standing in the world are, free from past administrations influence, is going.
 
I wasn't a Trump supporter, but voted for him over Hillary for sure. I woyld have voted for Bozo the Clown over her, but I have come to believe that he is crazy like a fox when it comes to business.

These politicians have no idea how to deal with him because he isn't political. This is just what we needed.

I also believe the reason that so many politicians hate home is because he now knows how they deal and that they are THIS CLOSE to ........Yes, I'm going to say it.......GITMO.

They haven't been doing all the renovations for no reason. I thought it was on the verge of closure. Plus what about the 1000s of sealed indictments.
 
Brent, you watch to much left wing media. Give me an example of Trump instilling racism and division? For every true example you give, I can give 5 examples of 10 differrent democrats doing it. Stop buying into leftist propaganda. Your not a leftist Brent, your a liberal. There is a huge difference, its almost the opposit positions. Google it yourself and compare there beliefs to your own. Liberalism and conservatism are both good viewpoints that go hand in hand rather well and its what made this country great! Leftism is the enemy.
 
This morning I told a fri3nd it was probably the last thing McCain did.

She just text me and said Ann Coulter said it was him too. His last dig against Trump.
 
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While I share Brent's concerns, I also believe robin is on point...

I wasn't a Trump supporter, but voted for him over Hillary for sure. I woyld have voted for Bozo the Clown over her, but I have come to believe that he is crazy like a fox when it comes to business.

As for the op-ed piece, I personally think it's a load of crafted horse crap. The only question in my mind is who crafted it?

Oddly, the funniest answer..... Trump himself.

If you believe the QAnon theory (and I don't really, but I am intrigued by it)....then this op-ed piece would actually be a brilliant play on his part. I'm not sure I could give Trump that kind of credit though....

But (assuming the existence of the Deep State)...think of what the piece does: 1) gives plausible reasoning for in-depth looks into cabinet spots for deep state operatives (and firing them), 2) puts the idea of a Deep State more into the realm of believability, and 3) helps to assure those who want him out, that there are steadier hands minding the wheel....

Not saying I believe this all to be the case, but it's an intriguing idea nonetheless. Personally, I still think he's simply going to do what he wants, and that QAnon's conspiracy is wishful thinking at best.

I do agree that the shake-up of him getting elected is still FAR better than any damage he could cause during his term. It reset politics and upset the status-quo, forcing folks in government to remember that in our republic, the people have a voice, and it will override your planned maneuvers. How long it holds, though, is another matter entirely.
 
It proves it either way.

If it is real, there's your deep state. And if it's fake news, well there is your fake news trying to build a deep state!

This is a fair point. And it is also why I think that only an ENEMY of the Deep State would have released it. No matter how you slice it, that's the verdict. Which is even funnier when you have the liberal Times doing your dirty work.....
 
Stop buying into leftist propaganda

I don't think he is.

Any non-biased look at Trump's behavior and actions paints a picture of a guy who is a bit erratic, emotional, vindictive, etc. However, I could care less about any of that, I just care about the results. The actual, measurable results. Jury is still out on those, but the results so far are certainly better than they would have been with Hillary at the helm, so I'm at least satisfied with that.

For the whiny babes griping about the rest of the world not "liking" us...here's a news flash. The world never liked us. We're the world's largest economy, with the world's largest and most advanced military. Our culture completely overrides a region's culture once introduced. We operate globally to ensure our interests are protected, and our national will implemented. And we always have and will. This isn't how we make friends, but that was never our goal. Get used to it. ;)
 
While I share Brent's concerns, I also believe robin is on point...



As for the op-ed piece, I personally think it's a load of crafted horse crap. The only question in my mind is who crafted it?

Oddly, the funniest answer..... Trump himself.

If you believe the QAnon theory (and I don't really, but I am intrigued by it)....then this op-ed piece would actually be a brilliant play on his part. I'm not sure I could give Trump that kind of credit though....

But (assuming the existence of the Deep State)...think of what the piece does: 1) gives plausible reasoning for in-depth looks into cabinet spots for deep state operatives (and firing them), 2) puts the idea of a Deep State more into the realm of believability, and 3) helps to assure those who want him out, that there are steadier hands minding the wheel....

Not saying I believe this all to be the case, but it's an intriguing idea nonetheless. Personally, I still think he's simply going to do what he wants, and that QAnon's conspiracy is wishful thinking at best.

I do agree that the shake-up of him getting elected is still FAR better than any damage he could cause during his term. It reset politics and upset the status-quo, forcing folks in government to remember that in our republic, the people have a voice, and it will override your planned maneuvers. How long it holds, though, is another matter entirely.

Even if Q is a crock, it is making people research and think. Therefore; I say go for it.
 
For the whiny babes griping about the rest of the world not "liking" us...here's a news flash. The world never liked us. We're the world's largest economy, with the world's largest and most advanced military. Our culture completely overrides a region's culture once introduced. We operate globally to ensure our interests are protected, and our national will implemented. And we always have and will. This isn't how we make friends, but that was never our goal. Get used to it. ;)
When all of Europe were paying ransom to the Barbary pirates in the name of getting along, Thomas Jefferson said "Screw That" and sent in the Marines.
 
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I just care about the results. The actual, measurable results.

Black Lies (don't) Matter.

But results matter. They are all that really matters. I have so many friends who constantly whine about "if only Trump would stop tweeting". I keep saying the same thing: I couldn't care less about tweets. If Trump is draining the swamp and saving the nation from disaster, how in the world could I give a hoot about how he gets there? And if his methods have gotten us this far in barely 18 months, who is there to tell him how to do his job better!
 
That's the thing about all the whiners that wonder, "How could you vote for him?".

It's easy. Your average Trump voter is pragmatist. They don't care about what the Kardashians are doing, or about other such nonsense. We want results. Real, measurable results, not some namby pamby message about "change" or "hope".

We want a higher stock market, GDP, and employment rate. We want lower taxes, and to know that if we put our military somewhere, we're getting something out of it. (and so far, we're getting all of this, in spite of stupid tweets and soundbites).

(most of us) don't really care about dead horse topics that whiners keep going on about, like gay rights, abortion, or even some of the current ones like immigration reform, etc. We just want to be sure we have a job, and that we have a chance to better our lot in life. Is that so hard to understand? If it comes via a narcissist blowhard with orange skin and a bad hairpiece who likes to tweet out insults, do you really think I give a damn? The answer is a hard hell no.
 
That's the thing about all the whiners that wonder, "How could you vote for him?".

It's easy. Your average Trump voter is pragmatist. They don't care about what the Kardashians are doing, or about other such nonsense. We want results. Real, measurable results, not some namby pamby message about "change" or "hope".

We want a higher stock market, GDP, and employment rate. We want lower taxes, and to know that if we put our military somewhere, we're getting something out of it. (and so far, we're getting all of this, in spite of stupid tweets and soundbites).

(most of us) don't really care about dead horse topics that whiners keep going on about, like gay rights, abortion, or even some of the current ones like immigration reform, etc. We just want to be sure we have a job, and that we have a chance to better our lot in life. Is that so hard to understand? If it comes via a narcissist blowhard with orange skin and a bad hairpiece who likes to tweet out insults, do you really think I give a damn? The answer is a hard hell no.

He let Jimmy Fallon pull his hair and it held. Fallon said it's real.
 
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I still think Trump himself released it. LOL.

Think about it. It makes NO sense at all, for an actual person in the position claimed, to out his existence. Anyone doing so had to know it would lead to a witch hunt. Which is exactly why they did't. Nope, this was a calculated move. So, we have to ask, what was the AIM of it.... It clearly isn't the reason stated, so what is the REAL goal? To give a plausible excuse to clean a little house maybe? Hell, maybe this QAnon bit is legit after all.

He let Jimmy Fallon pull his hair and it held. Fallon said it's real.

Not buying it though, saw video of him getting off a plane, and the wind blew it, and it flopped. Whatever he did for Fallon, must have been where it's actually some of his hair that's left. ;)

But again, I'm a pragmatist, so I don't really care if he wants to wear a wig. ;)
 
I would agree that trump being behind this story is likely except that the paper hates him and wouldn’t work with him. I guess he could have had someone feed the story to them..... it wouldn’t shock me. Espechially after the guy that just admitted to photo shopping the inauguration photos to make it look more crowded at trumps direction. He definitely is aware of how to manipulate the media.
 
As I’ve mentioned earlier, I am not just across the board against any idea that trump has. I don’t care which party he, or anyone, is affiliated with. I do care about his ability to govern though. As far as Obama’s driving us further into debt, if you do the math, the new tax cuts and budgets are going to surpass those amounts. Even the unemployment and economic issues cannot be claimed solely by the current administration. Lots of factors influence the economy, and take years before showing results. The main reasons I blurted out my disbelief of people still supporting him is his mental state. He isn’t sly like a fox, he’s just erratic as hell. He creates chaos in almost everything he does and incites racism and division. I get that most, myself included, were sick of the average sleazy politicians, but swinging this far out was kind of like shooting yourself in the foot. I’m not just whining about the Democratic Party loosing here, as I really don’t associate myself with either party, but am simply stating the obvious here, the man is dangerous. His childish tantrums and outbursts have caused real harm to our influence and reputation to the world. I guess one analogy I like to use in life is if you’re questioning someone’s ability to lead and influence, think about if you would use them as a role model to teach your children how to be. I would gladly take almost any other republican candidate, so again this isn’t partisan. I personally think his daughter would do a good job. All I can say for sure is time will tell how good of a job he does. Give it two more years and see how the economy and the US’s standing in the world are, free from past administrations influence, is going.
I have had bosses like Trump, they could be very outlandish but they got the job done and well. People were fed up with the status quo and no longer wanted a politician for President. I think that the perception that he is crazy and unpredictable may have a positive side. I am not sure where the racism things comes from(like not sure how he has incited it), and there is probably no more a chaotic place than the Whitehouse. I imagine it is always insane there no matter who is President. I read a huge book by Carl Sandberg about Lincolns Whitehouse, crazy nuts, all the factions and subversion! AND that was in the 1860's! Do I wish he would tone it down, yea sure. On the other hand we only know what we think we know and what the media reports. I trust Trump more than I do the media that's all.
 
I would agree that trump being behind this story is likely except that the paper hates him and wouldn’t work with him. I guess he could have had someone feed the story to them..... it wouldn’t shock me. Espechially after the guy that just admitted to photo shopping the inauguration photos to make it look more crowded at trumps direction. He definitely is aware of how to manipulate the media.
All the stuff, the manipulation, the double agents, the under the table trades and sharing of information is so beyond our grasp, indeed by all sides, that is what politics is all about man. Nothing surprises me, but really we haven't a clue about what really goes on. If we did we'd have a melt down.
 
I would agree that trump being behind this story is likely except that the paper hates him and wouldn’t work with him. I guess he could have had someone feed the story to them..... it wouldn’t shock me. Espechially after the guy that just admitted to photo shopping the inauguration photos to make it look more crowded at trumps direction. He definitely is aware of how to manipulate the media.

Oh, I definitely believe that if he was behind it, he had someone else do it (likely Pence). You don't think that keyword was in there for nothing, do you? ;)

If he did this, it's absolutely brilliant, and further proof he's playing a character, while working on dismantling the Deep State. I have to say, I really am giving the QAnon theories a LOT more credence these days.

If nothing else, it has been, and will continue to be, an interesting Presidency.
 
Oh, I definitely believe that if he was behind it, he had someone else do it (likely Pence). You don't think that keyword was in there for nothing, do you? ;)

If he did this, it's absolutely brilliant, and further proof he's playing a character, while working on dismantling the Deep State. I have to say, I really am giving the QAnon theories a LOT more credence these days.

If nothing else, it has been, and will continue to be, an interesting Presidency.
Agreed, I want to catch the news every evening more than ever just to see what’s next!
 
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