Panic Buying in US

[Brent S]

I just saw Italy had 365 deaths today. Spain had 170, today. Don’t let the current low numbers here lull you into complacency. I’m also not suggesting anyone panic either. Unless your a moron that is just now thinking it might be a good idea to stock up on toilet paper and haven’t even started with food or anything else.

 

[user 6493]

I just saw Italy had 365 deaths today. Spain had 170, today. Don’t let the current low numbers here lull you into complacency. I’m also not suggesting anyone panic either. Unless your a moron that is just now thinking it might be a good idea to stock up on toilet paper and haven’t even started with food or anything else.

if you look at the maps Italy does not touch China and has the 2nd highest number of cases,how the hell is that possible???????,,,,,,,

 

[Brent S]

if you look at the maps Italy does not touch China and has the 2nd highest number of cases,how the hell is that possible???????,,,,,,,

It was brought by people that visited China or were from there. The reason Italy is so badly affected is an older population. They have a medical system that compares to ours, and is actually better in some aspects. It will get a lot worse here before long too.

 

[DrHenley]

if you look at the maps Italy does not touch China and has the 2nd highest number of cases,how the hell is that possible???????,,,,,,,

An invention called the aeroplane that lets you fly over several countries before you reach your destination.

Damn GG, you really haven't been paying attention.

 

[GaRp58]

Wow! 40 years! You were tuned it way before me! I’ve only been at it 5 or so years. Although when I finally saw the writing on the wall I have spent many days of every week preparing for the worst. Knew time was short and I had to catch up.

How is your granddaughter today?

Morning Peachie, thanks for asking. She and my g-son are both here for the weekend. Both have a little cough but nothing we can't take care of.
I started hunting with a bow and arrow when I was 9 in Ft.Worth, shot competition in High School in Van Nuys, CA and still go on occasional meets here just to stay fit. It is illegal to hunt anything in Germany with a bow or crossbow...I will do what is needed if the SHTF. Good camo and the so called hunters here NEVER go out at night. They are busy drinking in the bars by then...
I was teaching survival in the Boy Scouts in the San Fernando Valley from 1974 to 1976. Our troop then won 1st place troop, plus 1st and 3rd place patrols. I got the nickname of Johnny Horizon. Some of my students went on to become SaR team members and helped Search and Rescue teams in the Simi Valley, Carmel Valley, Yosemite and along the John Muir trail later...I am still training and prepping since I came to Germany for all scenarios. In the middle of translating my book for my kids, wrote it in German and now want to finish it in english for this site...Gary

 

[GaRp58]

It was brought by people that visited China or were from there.

New info here Brent. There is an entire Chinese city in Italy. The Italian gov't allowed some rich a-hole to build a factory which was run by Italians, but the work was done with the cheap labor from imported Chinese. They all live in an open little city, go shopping like itals, go to work in the factory under the legal wages limit here, produce the clothing for export into the EU and therefore save the production costs, transportation costs, transportation theft losses and most important, the import taxes are being waved since it is being produced here in the EU...LEGALISING THE MAFIA ANYONE????

 

[Proud Prepper]

THIS IS EVERY YEAR
CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in the U.S. - STAT
www.statnews.com › 2018/09/26 › cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter
CDC: 80,000 people died of flu last winter in U.S., highest death toll in 40 years. By Associated Press. September 26, 2018.

GG, trust me, I would not lie to you. This virus takes a long time to spread for the very first time, it's a Novel virus, which means completely new to mankind. This virus will eventually infect 3 to 5 times what influenza does in a year. It will be 10 to 55 times more deadly than influenza and will leave more permanent damage and side effects than influenza.

It will eventually reach 80,000 deaths and then a few days later it will be 160,000, then a few more days 320,000 etc... etc.... so on and so on. Until it peaks at about 70% of the population. That's if it doesn't reinfect which there is evidence that it does.
If it overwhelms the hospital system, then what ever the death rate is, it will then multiply by 3, 4, 5, 6 times that for not only convid-19 virus, but every virus, diseasem sickness and illness, everything you need hospital care for.

 

[Proud Prepper]

if you look at the maps Italy does not touch China and has the 2nd highest number of cases,how the hell is that possible???????,,,,,,,

Chinas numbers are completely false.

 

[GaRp58]

The medical system in Germany is excellent, it is although misused by many. Instead of going to your local doctor for a cut finger or simple burn, they all want to go to the emergency room, get some paperwork to not have to go to work for a while and have something to talk about at the bar on a round of whisky and beer...
It is also kept at a "full" status at almost all times, keeping well persons longer if the next patient is not waiting at the front door, letting the sick go early if a worse case bringing more MONEY into the hospital IS at the front door. ANYWAY they are usually full, have no extra capacities, and will be over run if this Virus Hits The Fan...ha ha, I made a pun...VHTF not SHTF. I crack myself up. Oh well, it is 2:00 am and I really should be in bed, my mind is wandering...where is my pillow? anybody see the way toward the bedroom..............................................G'night world and God bless us everyone.........snore, snore. Gary

 

[user 6493]

GG, trust me, I would not lie to you. This virus takes a long time to spread for the very first time, it's a Novel virus, which means completely new to mankind. This virus will eventually infect 3 to 5 times what influenza does in a year. It will be 10 to 55 times more deadly than influenza and will leave more permanent damage and side effects than influenza.

It will eventually reach 80,000 deaths and then a few days later it will be 160,000, then a few more days 320,000 etc... etc.... so on and so on. Until it peaks at about 70% of the population. That's if it doesn't reinfect which there is evidence that it does.
If it overwhelms the hospital system, then what ever the death rate is, it will then multiply by 3, 4, 5, 6 times that for not only convid-19 virus, but every virus, diseasem sickness and illness, everything you need hospital care for.

so most of us are all going to die,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[KateMTx]

An invention called the aeroplane that lets you fly over several countries before you reach your destination.

Damn GG, you really haven't been paying attention.

You made me laugh so hard.
It is true that Italy has a lot of tourists from Asia and they could have brought it.

 

[Codokaktus]

A more simple calculation from the statistics is, assuming a death rate of 2% and a time to death of 17 days and a time to cure 21 days.

Italy has now 1.809 dead people, meaning there were up to 90.000 infected (98%) around them. But Italy reports just 25.000 infected.
And these 90.000 should be cured now and create an undetected Island of immunity already.
We will be through before the officials even know it. Just count the death toll and calculate backwards.

 

[Proud Prepper]

so most of us are all going to die,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Not at all, but much more than the flu, most likely every year for the foreseeable future.

 

[Proud Prepper]

A more simple calculation from the statistics is, assuming a death rate of 2% and a time to death of 17 days and a time to cure 21 days.

Italy has now 1.809 dead people, meaning there were up to 90.000 infected (98%) around them. But Italy reports just 25.000 infected.
And these 90.000 should be cured now and create an undetected Island of immunity already.
We will be through before the officials even know it. Just count the death toll and calculate backwards.

We can hope, but not likely. Not how it works. 5his virus is not like any other we have experienced.

 

[user 6493]

Not at all, but much more than the flu, most likely every year for the foreseeable future.

forgive me but I will have to wait and see the end of the story before I write of 70% of the human race

 

[Proud Prepper]

forgive me but I will have to wait and see the end of the story before I write of 70% of the human race

That's the number infected, lol not deaths

 

[user 6493]

think about this if we start dropping like flies what is to keep people from deciding to kill every SOB that has ever pissed them off,,,,,**** if the majority are going to die prison doesn't mean a thing anymore


load your guns and pass the ammo,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[Codokaktus]

The big weakness in my calculation is, that they had indentified all corona killed people correctly. Than the lethal rate might be higher, but in any case, this damn Virus is perfectly designed for spreading.
God save us, if it mutates to higher lethal rate

 

[user 6493]

That's the number infected, lol not deaths

that is not the way you worded it,,,,you never mentioned infected

It will eventually reach 80,000 deaths and then a few days later it will be 160,000, then a few more days 320,000 etc... etc.... so on and so on. Until it peaks at about 70% of the population

 

[user 6493]

I have to work in the morning,,,and it is going to be raining,,,,,,,,,,,,,I will look in here in the morning

 

[Frozen Tundra]

GG, trust me, I would not lie to you. This virus takes a long time to spread for the very first time, it's a Novel virus, which means completely new to mankind. This virus will eventually infect 3 to 5 times what influenza does in a year. It will be 10 to 55 times more deadly than influenza and will leave more permanent damage and side effects than influenza.

It will eventually reach 80,000 deaths and then a few days later it will be 160,000, then a few more days 320,000 etc... etc.... so on and so on. Until it peaks at about 70% of the population. That's if it doesn't reinfect which there is evidence that it does.
If it overwhelms the hospital system, then what ever the death rate is, it will then multiply by 3, 4, 5, 6 times that for not only convid-19 virus, but every virus, diseasem sickness and illness, everything you need hospital care for.

Whoa... where are you coming up with these stats? "Until it peaks at about 70% of the population"... I can agree with your assertion on the 10%+ more fatalities than the flu, but there is no proof that this is a 70% pop crash event. Look, lots of folks are losing their $hit, let's not add to the panic...

 

[eiilers]

So why did China shut down an entire province, close all the factories (which caused an enormous economic crisis), and force everyone at gunpoint to stay in their homes over this nothing burger?

Bexause.. I believe this is a bio engineered Chinese weapon, which escaped from the lab In Wuhan province. Being a bio weapon, that makes complete sense why the Chinese government were burning all of the bodies. Stage 2/3 of the virus is going to be worse than stage 1, from what I’ve read. Things like this can mutate and get way way way worse. There is a lot our governments are not telling us. And a lot we can learn from, from China... there’s a reason they were KILLING people escaping from quarantine..

 

[Proud Prepper]

Whoa... where are you coming up with these stats? "Until it peaks at about 70% of the population"... I can agree with your assertion on the 10%+ more fatalities than the flu, but there is no proof that this is a 70% pop crash event. Look, lots of folks are losing their $hit, let's not add to the panic...

I get my data from virologist and mathematics. 70% is how many people will be infected, the death rates are a percentage of that number. It's not just 10% more deaths minimum, its 10 times the deaths of the flu. I'm not adding to the panic, it's the truth. Study expodential virus growth, incubation times and R0 ratings. Do the math.

 

[Proud Prepper]

Bexause.. I believe this is a bio engineered Chinese weapon, which escaped from the lab In Wuhan province. Being a bio weapon, that makes complete sense why the Chinese government were burning all of the bodies. Stage 2/3 of the virus is going to be worse than stage 1, from what I’ve read. Things like this can mutate and get way way way worse. There is a lot our governments are not telling us. And a lot we can learn from, from China... there’s a reason they were KILLING people escaping from quarantine..

Yes it is a man made bio weapon that will not go away and it will reinfect everyone. It has been confirmed, but has been scrubbed from public information. The samples givin to various labs is the wild corona virus. There for there will be more planned phases to this world changing event. The new world order is making its move. Be prepared to fight them. I'm serious. Dont believe me, that's fine. You will eventually know its happening.

 

[Codokaktus]

I get my data from virologist and mathematics. 70% is how many people will be infected, the death rates are a percentage of that number. It's not just 10% more deaths minimum, its 10 times the deaths of the flu. I'm not adding to the panic, it's the truth. Study expodential virus growth, incubation times and R0 ratings. Do the math.

the 70% are pure math. The virologist does not say when. That can be influenced by measures. Either it comes in a big tsunami, killing a lot collaterally by panic/economic disaster or more in smaller waves, delayed within 2 years or more.
I doubt, that it is a bioweapon. Than the Chinese should train themself in targeting. It is another statistic. So many people but the only lifeform which will succueed the mankind are bacterias and virus. I'm wondering anyway, why waiting for the doomsday, comming from that side, last so long...

 

[BillMasen]

if you look at the maps Italy does not touch China and has the 2nd highest number of cases,how the hell is that possible???????,,,,,,,

Because Italy has the OLDEST population in all of Europe and they are all very family oriented and very touchy fely socially.

 

[GaRp58]

God save us, if it mutates to higher lethal rate

God help us no matter what comes of the whole story.

Codokaktus: If I may ask, would you give me a larger city near where you live so I could guess how far away you are from me near Stuttgart? GP

 

[DrPrepper1]

Because Italy has the OLDEST population in all of Europe and they are all very family oriented and very touchy fely socially.

They also stand in large crowds waiting for the pope to speak.

 

[Dani]

Getting in from work now. So we still have some bare spots on the shelves. The way the trucks are operating is that they are focused on bringing the products people are freaking out about as they can. I overheard one partner telling a manager the 1 truck they received was nothing but diapers and bottled water. 1 stocker said they received 35 pallets of toilet paper the night before and all was gone except 3 packages of Cottenile. The products are coming but the problem is people are still panicked and buying as many supplies as they can. There will be holes left in products that are not in such high deman. . . that is intentional for now so the big dogs can bring the items customers are most wanting. Then you will have holes in areas that are in high demand because warehouse was empty and they are waiting for a truck from the manufacturer. . . The demand was much more than what was anticipated and they just need to catch uo. It is coming though. . .

A certain employee last night is very concerned since they are not receiving any products right now. She is worried and heard a rumor that they were shutting the store down. In all my years there, we have never shut our doors, except two during Harvey and too many employees were flooded in, but the majority of people were in the same boat at that time. Only jacked up trucks and boats could even get there. We just lessened our open hours..

 

[Codokaktus]

God help us no matter what comes of the whole story.

Codokaktus: If I may ask, would you give me a larger city near where you live so I could guess how far away you are from me near Stuttgart? GP

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