The bump stock may be a token jesture . The age limit could happen but doubtful at Fed level . The mental health thing will be to complex to enforce . The most that will come from the FL thing will be security in schools and crime control .
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Wow, the ignorance of US/USSR relations and history on this thread is absolutely appalling. This is nothing more than standard playbook NATO Cold War stuff folks.
I love it when folks call Trump a warmonger. Are you kidding? Trump's view on war is VERY clear. They cost too much, unless you are getting a HELL of a return on your investment. It's obvious that anyone making this claim is completely ignorant of the many, many discussions on this topic he's put forth over the years.
Not really, it's my bet you're still reading him, right in this thread. Names change, attitudes stay the same, hehe.
No...there's no need to worry here. Tomorrow we'll still hear the alarm clock. Most of us will go to work. Some in this thread will go to school, hehe... Life will go on as it always has.
I love it when folks call Trump a warmonger. Are you kidding? Trump's view on war is VERY clear. They cost too much, unless you are getting a HELL of a return on your investment. It's obvious that anyone making this claim is completely ignorant of the many, many discussions on this topic he's put forth over the years.
Not really, it's my bet you're still reading him, right in this thread. Names change, attitudes stay the same, hehe.
No...there's no need to worry here. Tomorrow we'll still hear the alarm clock. Most of us will go to work. Some in this thread will go to school, hehe... Life will go on as it always has.
Tonto,
They done this before lets go back to cold war, plus have/had troops training Finland, Poland and have troops in the Ukraine just to cover couple of places with the Russian border, we have patrolled the Black Seas since the 40s. Where are you getting your news at, its like old news is new news to you, apparently don't know anything about the cold war.
They done this before lets go back to cold war, plus have/had troops training Finland, Poland and have troops in the Ukraine just to cover couple of places with the Russian border, we have patrolled the Black Seas since the 40s. Where are you getting your news at, its like old news is new news to you, apparently don't know anything about the cold war.
How should he? Wasn't even born then, and they certainly don't teach it in school these days. Most kids probably think it was just snowing or something....
Here's a quick tutorial though...
When you don't want REAL war (because you could both nuke each other into oblivion), you instead have a COLD war, in which you constantly show the other side that you are READY AND WILLING to engage, should it come to that, and when it comes to a territory of conflict, you both make troop moves, exercises, and/or fight proxy wars (i.e. rebels vs. ruling party) by arming your chosen side, and see how that plays out.
This whole 18/21 argument is so ridiculous. You are either an adult or you are not. Why the hell do we keep having different ages for these things? Make it all at 18, or all at 21, and be done with it already.
Yes, the bump stock thing was an easy token gesture. It was actually pretty brilliant for appeasing both sides. But, of course, the fear of give 'em an inch, they'll take a mile is quickly realized, because no sooner than the ink dries, and we see the left calling for ALL semi-automatics to be banned.
ya your right, his age is going against him here...
Do you know what WW1 was? Nope, you don't. You know nothing about it. How could you? Your age is against you here.
My grandfather fought in many people I known have fought in it, I had an uncle that died in it, the ones that survived it are the ones I have listen to! The Cold War I lived it and been part of it militarily so has my dad and uncles. It is you who is not listening to the ones who lived it.
Nope. If I don't know anything about the Cold War because of my age, then you don't know anything about the 1st World War because of your age.
Apples and Oranges.
In the history books, it's easy to point to decisive battles, victories, and defeats during an actual war.
During a Cold War, the real decisive actions could be a series of minor news events. An assassination in the shadows here, an embargo there...a captured spy here, an arms deal there. It's much more elusive to point out, and much harder to illustrate and teach.
It's not even a slight on you, the poster. It simply is what it is. For those of us who lived through it, and UNDER it...with the very REAL fear that any day, we could look out the window and see mushroom clouds on the horizon, it's a bit different.
This isn't something you can just learn online, or from books. You had to have lived it because of the way all these minor events formed a larger whole.
In the history books, it's easy to point to decisive battles, victories, and defeats during an actual war.
During a Cold War, the real decisive actions could be a series of minor news events. An assassination in the shadows here, an embargo there...a captured spy here, an arms deal there. It's much more elusive to point out, and much harder to illustrate and teach.
It's not even a slight on you, the poster. It simply is what it is. For those of us who lived through it, and UNDER it...with the very REAL fear that any day, we could look out the window and see mushroom clouds on the horizon, it's a bit different.
This isn't something you can just learn online, or from books. You had to have lived it because of the way all these minor events formed a larger whole.
You are making an argument were there are none. We are talking about the cold war, what you hear is new to you to us is not given it has gone on before your time but not ours, it is in this the reference of your age goes against you
Hell, the Cold War was basically my entire career path, just out of High School. I was in college, and even got in a CIA trainee program. Don't get too excited, it was a strictly overt role. At the time, it was for the FBIS division (Foreign Broadcast Information Service). I was only about 6 weeks in, when the coup in Russia happened.
Suddenly, the whole motive for my trainee group went right out the door (as did our program...lol). Just as well, because learning Russian was getting tough anyhow. Even though our teacher was a former instructor (replaced there by the agency)...she seemed to be more involved with the students in the class who WERE NOT in the actual program, oddly enough. (was only 3 of us in that particular one)
Since then, the FBIS roles have been rolled into the NSA and Homeland Security. I had the option to enlist in a military branch, and then go into military intel for some years, to then rejoin, but that didn't really appeal to me.
I will say the join process was interesting though. Typically, they tend to only recruit through very prestigious universities...however, if you actually show you can find them well enough, it interests them enough to meet you (or at least it did)... This was many, many years ago. I mostly lucked into finding a lead, then I dug in to where that led, to finally meet a recruiter.
Ah well, the road not traveled. If any want any details, just message me...the agreement I signed expired many moons ago, hehe. All the same, I don't want to post everything on a public forum.
Suddenly, the whole motive for my trainee group went right out the door (as did our program...lol). Just as well, because learning Russian was getting tough anyhow. Even though our teacher was a former instructor (replaced there by the agency)...she seemed to be more involved with the students in the class who WERE NOT in the actual program, oddly enough. (was only 3 of us in that particular one)
Since then, the FBIS roles have been rolled into the NSA and Homeland Security. I had the option to enlist in a military branch, and then go into military intel for some years, to then rejoin, but that didn't really appeal to me.
I will say the join process was interesting though. Typically, they tend to only recruit through very prestigious universities...however, if you actually show you can find them well enough, it interests them enough to meet you (or at least it did)... This was many, many years ago. I mostly lucked into finding a lead, then I dug in to where that led, to finally meet a recruiter.
Ah well, the road not traveled. If any want any details, just message me...the agreement I signed expired many moons ago, hehe. All the same, I don't want to post everything on a public forum.
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what I have been thinking,when going through different news channels,is Syria,US has troops there,Russians have (though they don't like to admit it) and I read that the US and allies
obliterated a shyt load of these russian troops (just guys on vacation accoring to putin),so there's a Proxy war there...hopefully stays there
obliterated a shyt load of these russian troops (just guys on vacation accoring to putin),so there's a Proxy war there...hopefully stays there
Think we have one in the Ukraine too
Yes, Syria and the Ukraine are currently two ongoing proxy wars.
Here's a funny thought....if the whole Russian interference bit were true...what did they get out of it? Since these proxy wars are STILL going on....
During the campaign, on Syria, he was like, "Let the Russians have their damn pipeline", and on the Ukraine, "They basically see themselves as Russian anyway (in the area currently taken)"... He's not wrong on either count there. In Syria, while the Russian pipeline would compete, it really would do little to affect our pipeline's value. In the Ukraine, we really don't seem to have a dog in the fight, so I'm still a bit confused on that one.
My guess is that he's simply letting the military do their thing and staying mostly out of it...but in this case, all the military seems to be going on is it's previous orders.
Cold War back in full swing . Russia boasting about its new cruise missile.
What are they going to spend to build them though?
No doubt, Russia has the tech and know-how to build a nice missile, but their current arsenal are relics, rotting in their silos, and on launchers where the rubber of the tires have rotted off.
So forgive me for just sighing in exasperation at these feeble attempts to grandstand. I will give Putin credit for knowing how to get Donald's goat though...hehe....
Meanwhile, Russian soldiers desert for not being paid, or sit in tanks without gas to go anywhere.
BTW, this is nothing new. The first boast of this missile was back in 2016. Putin's claims that this missile would be "cost effective" simply don't hold water based on it's purported operating parameters.
No doubt, Russia has the tech and know-how to build a nice missile, but their current arsenal are relics, rotting in their silos, and on launchers where the rubber of the tires have rotted off.
So forgive me for just sighing in exasperation at these feeble attempts to grandstand. I will give Putin credit for knowing how to get Donald's goat though...hehe....
Meanwhile, Russian soldiers desert for not being paid, or sit in tanks without gas to go anywhere.
BTW, this is nothing new. The first boast of this missile was back in 2016. Putin's claims that this missile would be "cost effective" simply don't hold water based on it's purported operating parameters.
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Of course, even with this as the case, the Russians could still easily attack.
But, there remains the big issue of MAD (or mutually assured destruction).
There's also a REASON Russia has allowed it's older nukes to rot...they aren't worth maintaining because they won't get past the US' ballistic missile defense system.
So, it makes sense they'd instead funnel funds towards more winning designs that could penetrate these defenses.
You can bet there are some defenses in place that would seem like Sci-Fi to us. You can also bet Russia is well aware of these (as they have always been way better at the spy game than we are). That's just the sad fact. They train spies from BIRTH there...unlike us, so it makes sense.
Yes, this new stealth missile may go 30 times the speed of sound, but compare that to the speed of light from an orbiting tactical high energy laser, and well...that's that. Same with the tsunami torpedo.
The REAL danger from the Russians comes in the form of activated sleeper agents with suitcase nukes. That's a bit more worrisome personally. (and we do this there too, so....there's that.)
All in all, NOBODY wins in these scenarios, so you can bet it is ALL about DETERRENCE only. What it WILL do though, is force the US to at least appear to be putting money into further improvements to the arsenal, etc. We are going to spend BILLIONS to fight things that only exist in Russia's computer animations....(got to hand it to Putin on that one...genius)....
I'd HIGHLY recommend getting some stock in those companies that currently are involved in our nuclear defense, because they are about to get some sweet ass contracts!!!
But, there remains the big issue of MAD (or mutually assured destruction).
There's also a REASON Russia has allowed it's older nukes to rot...they aren't worth maintaining because they won't get past the US' ballistic missile defense system.
So, it makes sense they'd instead funnel funds towards more winning designs that could penetrate these defenses.
You can bet there are some defenses in place that would seem like Sci-Fi to us. You can also bet Russia is well aware of these (as they have always been way better at the spy game than we are). That's just the sad fact. They train spies from BIRTH there...unlike us, so it makes sense.
Yes, this new stealth missile may go 30 times the speed of sound, but compare that to the speed of light from an orbiting tactical high energy laser, and well...that's that. Same with the tsunami torpedo.
The REAL danger from the Russians comes in the form of activated sleeper agents with suitcase nukes. That's a bit more worrisome personally. (and we do this there too, so....there's that.)
All in all, NOBODY wins in these scenarios, so you can bet it is ALL about DETERRENCE only. What it WILL do though, is force the US to at least appear to be putting money into further improvements to the arsenal, etc. We are going to spend BILLIONS to fight things that only exist in Russia's computer animations....(got to hand it to Putin on that one...genius)....
I'd HIGHLY recommend getting some stock in those companies that currently are involved in our nuclear defense, because they are about to get some sweet ass contracts!!!
oh,by the way, as a little side note, saw on the news here today a report from your side of the pond,it was telling how ordinary
people are now buying and investing in personal bunkers ans sales booming.
one manufacturer said the reason is;the government hasn't invested or maintained any public shelters for decades..so once again it's
left to the preppers,mainly, to fix that issue..ofcourse no word "preppers" was mentioned..
people are now buying and investing in personal bunkers ans sales booming.
one manufacturer said the reason is;the government hasn't invested or maintained any public shelters for decades..so once again it's
left to the preppers,mainly, to fix that issue..ofcourse no word "preppers" was mentioned..
I noticed Anaconda posted in the Eastern Europe thread that Russia is advertising for Mercs to fight in Syria and Ukraine. Putin's boasting about all His new nukes and missiles is another Cold War tactic from the former KGB Officer and hit man .
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