Public Transport

[Kevin L]

Pubic transportation is a lot like Walmart; they're both magnets for freaks, weirdos and losers.

I shop at Walmart, LOL.

 

[lonewolf]

I shop at Asda which is the British equivalent of Walmart(but only one week out of 3...I alternate).

 

[GaRp58]

Wow, I guess I'm middle of the road. We drive on vacation, visits, short trips and such. But, we will take the bus downtown to skip looking for a parking space. After 19:00 hours, it only costs €1 to ride. The bus stop is 150 meters away and the bus drives about every 30 min. Very early in the mornings, the stinky, smelly bunch who ride has been described to me...no thanks. I wear leather gloves anyway, all day, every day, when out of the house and when underway in the city and shopping. Still wash my hands as we walk back into the house after shopping. Haven't been sick for many years by avoiding touching the rest of the worlds doorknobs, telephones and handrails...GP

 

[lonewolf]

I carry a bottle of hand sanitizer gel when out in public and use it when using door handles, shopping trolleys, etc.

 

[GaRp58]

Things like that are that which gives you a bit of a mind-safe that you have less brought home germs to live with. 90 % of all germs are spread and picked up by touching something. If someone sneezes, you see it. If they touch something, you do not see that. Gotta wash up. I sprayed the steering wheel, door knob and the shift lever in my driving school cars after each student got out. Kept them and myself healthier, I hope.

 

[user 6493]

hand sanitizer gel

lol,,,,I just can't buy into that crap about washing your hands all the time,,,,or wiping down a shopping cart before using it,,,,you think about it everything you buy everything you touched has been handled by countless other people,,,,,I wouldn't ever get anything done if I worried about who may have touched the next item I picked up

this concern about germs has really come about in I would say the last 10 years or so,,,,,,,,,,,,,if germs were the monsters they are made out to be we would have died out long ago,,,,,,,,,,so I don't worry about it,,,,,,,,,,,,,just wash your hands after going to the crapper and you will be fine

 

[GaRp58]

hands after going to the crapper and you will be fine

If we and you only knew how many did NOT wash their hands after going to the crapper, picking their nose, wiping their lips and changing the ****** diapers from their ****** childrens *****. I'll just wear my gloves and wash my hands, thank you.

 

[user 6493]

If we and you only knew how many did NOT wash their hands after going to the crapper, picking their nose, wiping their lips and changing the ****** diapers from their ****** childrens *****. I'll just wear my gloves and wash my hands, thank you.

lol,,,,whatever makes you feel better is ok by me,,,,,,,,,,,I just don't feel the need,,,,

I do take precautions ,,,at work if a coworker is sick even just a cold I will not get into a confined space with them,,,if I have a cold I keep to myself and don't visit anyone,,,most anyone I would go see is older and most are not in good shape so I would never expose them to a bug I might have,,,,,,

death will get us all one day,,,I just chose not to live in fear of catching some bug,,,,most of the time it is just a cold anyways

 

[lonewolf]

don't forget peoples gross habit's are why we have superbugs now.
if you'd seen some of the spitting, wiping their nose's on their sleeves and other stuff that goes on in the bigger towns these days you'd be washing your hands more too.
people have some really bad manners these days.

 

[Kevin L]

I acknowledge the reality of germs being spread by surfaces (in the medical field, we call this "fomites"), the dangers are grossly exaggerated.

Intact human skin is, essentially, germ-proof.

What is important is not to constantly touch your face and mouth all the time, as diseases gain entry via mucous membranes, the eyes, and/or the GI tract.

People with obsessive-compulsive disorders who constantly wash their hands are at a higher risk of infection, as the skin gets broken, cracked, and damaged under these circumstances.

There was a brilliant (and famous) psychotherapist named B.F. Skinner, who--essentially--raised his daughter in a germ-free environmemt, and it royally screwed up her immune system because she wasn't exposed to the same bugs that every other kid is exposed to. This made her very sickly, ill, and weak for most of her adult life because her immune system was underdeveloped.

While I wouldn't want to play in a sewer, a certian amount of exposure to everday germs is actually good for us.

There is even a school of thought that exposure to certain bacteria and viruses helps prevent cancer. The jury is still out on this claim, but the arguments and evidence are pretty convincing.

 

[DrHenley]

Some bacteria can actually help you fight other bacteria. Intestinal flora (beneficial bacteria in the gut) are an important part of your immune system. If you don't ever get the beneficial bacteria, then you have a compromised immune system.

During WWI, there was an outbreak of shigellosis among the German soldiers. There was one soldier that was unaffected. A strain of E. coli was isolated from that soldier's stool sample, and it was found that it would out-compete harmful bacteria and protect against intestinal bacterial infections. It is called E. coli Nissel after the German scientist that discovered it, Alfred Nissel. They made a pill out of it, which became the first commercial probiotic, Mutaflor.

http://www.probiotics-help.com/mutaflor.html

Mutaflor is still sold today, and you can order it on Amazon (it's pretty expensive though)
https://www.amazon.com/Mutaflor-Caps-Days-Supply-Brand/dp/B00V3MY654/ref=pd_sbs_14_1/133-5722829-2998835

 

[Kevin L]

Some bacteria can actually help you fight other bacteria. Intestinal flora (beneficial bacteria in the gut) are an important part of your immune system. If you don't ever get the beneficial bacteria, then you have a compromised immune system.

During WWI, there was an outbreak of shigellosis among the German soldiers. There was one soldier that was unaffected. A strain of E. coli was isolated from that soldier's stool sample, and it was found that it would out-compete harmful bacteria and protect against intestinal bacterial infections. It is called E. coli Nissel after the German scientist that discovered it, Alfred Nissel. They made a pill out of it, which became the first commercial probiotic, Mutaflor.

http://www.probiotics-help.com/mutaflor.html

Mutaflor is still sold today, and you can order it on Amazon (it's pretty expensive though)
https://www.amazon.com/Mutaflor-Caps-Days-Supply-Brand/dp/B00V3MY654/ref=pd_sbs_14_1/133-5722829-2998835

You're absolutely correct about bacteria helping to fight infection.

I'll even go you one better (if you won't take it as a childish form of "one-upmanship").

Before antibiotics and Salversan (Salversan is an arsenic-based drug that can still be used today for African sleeping sickness), doctors actually used malaria to cure syphilis, as there was a treatment for malaria (chinchona bark, or quinine sulfate) before there were real antibiotics.

About 1/3 of the time, malaria will completely cure syphilis. 1/3 of the time, it arrests syphilis and puts the patient in a remission where no further damage results.

Only 1/3 of the time did the procedure not work at all.

And out of the 4 different kinds of malaria that infect people (many other kinds infect reptiles, birds, and other mammals), they used malaria falcipirum . . . which is the worst kind . . . the kind that causes cerebral malaria.

This is a reason why I don't want to see extinct diseases destroyed in the lab.

Scientists are even using modified AIDS viruses as a vehicle to deliever genes to cells in instances where people have a hereditary disease.

As another example, cowpox (a mild disease of the hands) renders a person immune to smallpox. Jenner deliberately used cowpox to render people immune to smallpox, so now smallpox doesn't even exist anymore outside of the lab.

And so on.

 

[GaRp58]

There was a big ruckus in Germany from a doctor who would get into his rubber boots, walk outside in the mud and then come back into the hospital and walk in circles around the OP Rooms. The cleaning lady wasn't happy and complained. The reason was not that he wanted the place to be dirty, he wanted to make sure it was being cleaned properly AND was introducing the happy and good bacteria into his hospital...GP

 

[Mountain trapper]

You must have really wanted a pizza!

I had some friends over and over a few beers someone suggested pizza for dinner. We didn't get pizza.

 

[Proud Prepper]

I had some friends over and over a few beers someone suggested pizza for dinner. We didn't get pizza.

Beer has most of the food groups