Rant for the Day (keep it clean)

[Mountain trapper]

but you dont have goats
the sheep would probably be ok with just cold water but the goats are Boer and Kiko mixes ( meaning from climates not anywhere near as cold or not cold at all)

Thats a good point. I don't know anything about goats. We have been talking about getting some goats, and have a lot to learn first.
I'm going to buy a propane stock tank heater before next fall. It might keep the water warm enough for goats. Down to the south of us there are several people with goats. But down there it's generally above freezing in the daytime all winter. At our elevation we seldom have a day above freezing from the first of November until mid April.

 

[ClemKadiddlehopper]

but you dont have goats
the sheep would probably be ok with just cold water but the goats are Boer and Kiko mixes ( meaning from climates not anywhere near as cold or not cold at all)

Lots of people have goats up north. The difference is, they are out doors year round and acclimated. Because you keep your animals mostly indoors and on easy street, no insult intended, you are stuck catering to them now.

My horse from Egypt dang near froze her rear off in quarantine in late fall Canada. They didn't understand that she had just come from 40C temps to -5 temps and refused to put the provided blanket on. One year in Texas and one year back in Canada outdoors, she could handle pretty much any weather without help and drank ice water like any other critter including the goats.

The rubber pans are your friend and the animals really don't need the water warmed up. However, I understand you not wanting to risk your livelihood or your critters health if you don't have a good feel for the cold.

 

[Shawn Burkett]

My grandpa passed away.

I'm so sorry for your loss. Praying for you and your family.

 

[ClemKadiddlehopper]

I can't sleep. Had a major blow up on the big yellow vehicle this pm. One strapping big lad was having a bad hair day, apparently due to a shortage of baking powder in his system. He spouted various colorful expressions at various unamused recipients until one returned the verbal assault with a face full of axe body spray while simultaneously gassing the whole assylem.

That led to a fist in the sprayers face followed by a beat down with the actual spray can on the not wasted enough lad who started the whole mess.

A dog pile ensued with other lads trying to separate the two love birds. I get the yellow banana pulled over and with only one very loud "WHAT'S GOING ON BACK THERE!!!!!!!! "(Pearl would be proud) The dog pile melted and the fight stopped. I then had to deal with the original ***** and finally ended up giving him the boot onto the side of the road where the cops picked him up.

They haven't fired me yet, but one can always hope.

 

[Pearl]

I can't sleep. Had a major blow up on the big yellow vehicle this pm. One strapping big lad was having a bad hair day, apparently due to a shortage of baking powder in his system. He spouted various colorful expressions at various unamused recipients until one returned the verbal assault with a face full of axe body spray while simultaneously gassing the whole assylem.

That led to a fist in the sprayers face followed by a beat down with the actual spray can on the not wasted enough lad who started the whole mess.

A dog pile ensued with other lads trying to separate the two love birds. I get the yellow banana pulled over and with only one very loud "WHAT'S GOING ON BACK THERE!!!!!!!! "(Pearl would be proud) The dog pile melted and the fight stopped. I then had to deal with the original ***** and finally ended up giving him the boot onto the side of the road where the cops picked him up.

They haven't fired me yet, but one can always hope.

I don't know how you do what you do!!

 

[Pearl]

Lots of people have goats up north. The difference is, they are out doors year round and acclimated. Because you keep your animals mostly indoors and on easy street, no insult intended, you are stuck catering to them now.

My horse from Egypt dang near froze her rear off in quarantine in late fall Canada. They didn't understand that she had just come from 40C temps to -5 temps and refused to put the provided blanket on. One year in Texas and one year back in Canada outdoors, she could handle pretty much any weather without help and drank ice water like any other critter including the goats.

The rubber pans are your friend and the animals really don't need the water warmed up. However, I understand you not wanting to risk your livelihood or your critters health if you don't have a good feel for the cold.

Acclimation is the key! There have been a few on this forum lately that sit in their warm houses up north and laugh at the unusually cold weather! They don't have animals, or understand that this weather is not normal!! @sonya123 has to do what she does for her animals, they would get sick just kicked out in the weather!! My German Shepherd couldn't just go live outside, he's a house pet basically, he doesn't have the coat for it! @ClemKadiddlehopper 's Shepherds are outside dogs with a job, I bet they would hate having to be inside! Many people and animals couldn't live down here during a 100-110° summer! My donkey has a good winter coat right now, it's been stupid cold! There are 70° temps in the upper coming forecast, not nice for the animals that had to make the adjustment for northern temps! So my rant is, if you are sitting in your climate controlled house, !!

 

[sonya123]

Thats a good point. I don't know anything about goats. We have been talking about getting some goats, and have a lot to learn first.
I'm going to buy a propane stock tank heater before next fall. It might keep the water warm enough for goats. Down to the south of us there are several people with goats. But down there it's generally above freezing in the daytime all winter. At our elevation we seldom have a day above freezing from the first of November until mid April.

there are goats that do just fine in cold weather, you just need to research what type. Generally they will need a shelter for in bad weather and they don't like getting wet a lot. But you are good at building sheds so that shouldn't be a problem

 

[PaulKersey]

Who the hell is Annette Figueroa, why is she excited and does anyone care?

 

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[sonya123]

there are goats that do just fine in cold weather, you just need to research what type. Generally they will need a shelter for in bad weather and they don't like getting wet a lot. But you are good at building sheds so that shouldn't be a problem

adding to my post: you could get any goats that do well in Switzerland for example like Saanens or Alpines. The previous owner of our farm had a goat farm here and he had Saanens ( the pretty white goats, not too big).