"REALESTIC" ONE firearm choice for long term SHTF reality.

[Sourdough]

Sorry sour but I have yet to see the operative word "often" that you claim is in the OP.

I have zero concept of what you are referencing. If you are referencing a specific post, please reference it.

 

[ssonb]

Post #79 ... You clarify that you mean what firearm that will most "often" be used in a long term surf event.
If that key word was included in the opening thread a lota cornfuzion on our parts cudda ben sidestepped.

 

[Alaskajohn]

I asked that people chose the one firearm that will be the most "Often" utilized in a very long post SHTF operational reality.

What I did not realize is that only a tiny few understand or are actually living that reality currently or have in recent memory.

If people expect their life will be little changed during a very long arduous post SHTF event, then the answers people made here are logical & prudent.

I assert their firearm choice would change after only a week and maybe a day of living the new reality.

I think it has been a good thread. The bottom-line is people expect their life will be little or totally unchanged.

My “most often“ used firearm would be my 454 Casull. My constant carry for most of the year. SHTF, this probably wouldn’t change one bit as my most likely threat in SHTF is the same threat I face every time I step outside my cabin door.

 

[Magus]

In a SHTF I would likely be packing more than one gun anyway.

 

[Peepaw from Tex]

Always do .

 

[Magus]

Hell yeah!

 

[Old Whatshisname]

My “most often“ used firearm would be my 454 Casull. My constant carry for most of the year. SHTF, this probably wouldn’t change one bit as my most likely threat in SHTF is the same threat I face every time I step outside my cabin door.

That makes sense; if I were in such a situation, my most often used gun would probably be my Ruger 10/22 (preferably with a suppressor, although I don't have one yet). A close second would be my Mossberg 500.

 

[Sourdough]

In a SHTF I would likely be packing more than one gun anyway.

High ninety percent have zero grasp of what their daily reality would/will be like post SHTF. Ten times more hard manual labor per day, near all of which will be impossible with any firearm, let alone two.

Many will be surprised to discover tools for manual labor will be what they are actually packing 17 hours a day.

 

[Sourdough]

Post SHTF you will spend far more time fighting to stay alive with dysentery/diarrhea then gunfights.

 

[Neb]

High ninety percent have zero grasp of what their daily reality would/will be like post SHTF. Ten times more hard manual labor per day, near all of which will be impossible with any firearm, let alone two.

Many will be surprised to discover tools for manual labor will be what they are actually packing 17 hours a day.

Yup

"
They which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every one with one of his hands wrought in the work, and with the other hand held a weapon
"
Nehemiah 4:17

Ben

 

[Sourdough]

I spent six weeks recently pondering the answer to the question asked in this thread. My answer was a tie between two firearms. one of the .22 Magnum pistols that hold 30 cartridges or the Beretta M9A4. These were my two choices for daily life post "Longterm" SHTF.

It finally came down to where I currently live, and so I ordered the Beretta M9A4 which comes with three 18 round magazines. If I move to a small Alaska town (which is highly likely) I will order the S&W 30 round .22 Magnum.

 

[Cabin Fever]

I find it interesting that a prepper aficionado like yourself is just now getting a post-SHTF sidearm. What took so long? It can't be funds. You have 100s of thousands of dollars.

 

[Sourdough]

I generally don't talk about current inventory.

I'll disclose this much: One G-40 One G-22 Two G-19X One G-34 One G-35 One G-12
That is just the Glocks, and I hate double action only handguns. Of the ones listed I plan to keep only the G-12

Actually, the only thing that triggered my reassessment of post SHTF handguns, is I'll likely be moving next summer to where there are humans.

I find it interesting that a prepper aficionado like yourself is just now getting a post-SHTF sidearm. What took so long? It can't be funds. You have 100s of thousands of dollars.

 

[Cabin Fever]

I generally don't talk about current inventory.

I'll disclose this much: One G-40 One G-22 Two G-19X One G-34 One G-35 One G-12
That is just the Glocks, and I hate double action only handguns. Of the ones listed I plan to keep only the G-12

Actually, the only thing that triggered my reassessment of post SHTF handguns, is I'll likely be moving next summer to where there are humans.

Sorry to hear that. I never want to move any closer to humans.

 

[Aerindel]

Post SHTF you will spend far more time fighting to stay alive with dysentery/diarrhea then gunfights.

I'd say if either of those are your biggest problems, you didn't prep very well or at all.

My biggest problem for at least the first couple years, is going to be mental health. Figuring out what it I should be doing with my life moving foward in whatever 'the changed' world is, will living with the constant threat of something horrible that I can't do anything about (massive sudden human threat, illness that requires modern medicine, etc)

It's going to be a combination of boredom while at the same time knowing that any minute it could get really bad without warning. Its very difficult to get anything done like that, or ever rest, etc. Usually breaks people down over time.

I also think unless you are starting out very young, its very unreasonable to think you will be able to do very much more work post SHTF, than you can do now.

I expect the opposite in fact. With less food, luxuries, more stress, etc....I expect my productivity to take a big dump post SHTF...which is why its so important to prep now.

 

[Sourdough]

I'd say if either of those are your biggest problems, you didn't prep very well or at all.

My biggest problem for at least the first couple years, is going to be mental health. Figuring out what it I should be doing with my life moving foward in whatever 'the changed' world is, will living with the constant threat of something horrible that I can't do anything about (massive sudden human threat, illness that requires modern medicine, etc)

It's going to be a combination of boredom while at the same time knowing that any minute it could get really bad without warning. Its very difficult to get anything done like that, or ever rest, etc. Usually breaks people down over time.

I also think unless you are starting out very young, its very unreasonable to think you will be able to do very much more work post SHTF, than you can do now.

I expect the opposite in fact. With less food, luxuries, more stress, etc....I expect my productivity to take a big dump post SHTF...which is why its so important to prep now.

I figure the closer one lives today to a post SHTF lifestyle "Existence" the easier the transition. If any is even necessary.

 

[ssonb]

I like to look to our history for clues and answers.
Our forefathers in the East had a lot less portable and conceaIable firearms in a time where the enemy knew the terrain, stealth and ambush tactics learned from generations of practicing.
How did they cope with the constant knowledge that at any moment a surprise assault could erupt from the tree line next to the field where they HAD to work?
Fud fer thought.

 

[elkhound]

beauty of my area...springs all around to gather water from.

 

[elkhound]

High ninety percent have zero grasp of what their daily reality would/will be like post SHTF. Ten times more hard manual labor per day, near all of which will be impossible with any firearm, let alone two.

Many will be surprised to discover tools for manual labor will be what they are actually packing 17 hours a day.

they are going to find out about the wide variety of packs needed and various containers and 5 gallon buckets and baskets.

 

[Sourdough]

they are going to find out about the wide variety of packs needed and various containers and 5 gallon buckets and baskets.

Good point. I think I'll do a thread on Backpacks. I am 100% sure I'll pee a lot of people off talking about $800.00 Backpacks.

 

[Cabin Fever]

Good point. I think I'll do a thread on Backpacks. I am 100% sure I'll pee a lot of people off talking about $800.00 Backpacks.

You should do another thread on how preppers in the north plan to keep their homes warm, including what fuels they plan to use, what they have to burn the fuels in, what equipment they have to obtain/harvest the fuel, etc.

 

[Sourdough]

You should do another thread on how preppers in the north plan to keep their homes warm, including what fuels they plan to use, what they have to burn the fuels in, what equipment they have to obtain/harvest the fuel, etc.

Hopefully we can snooker Alaskajohn & you to discuss that. It gets colder where you are then where I live. It has been in the 40'& 50's the last week. And the first snow today. I am in the Banana Belt of Alaska.

 

[Magus]

I did a thing about three gun kits and location in here somewhere. guns are tools, the right one for the right location. Like where I am now, 223 is a joke with all of these leaves and twigs, a 30 carbine would do better. AKs and any 308 rule the dense woods. There are places nearby where a rifle would be futile and a shotgun would be king, some places only a handgun would be practical, and then a Handgun or revolver? It's all in knowing where you're going and what you do once you're there. I do not believe in a do-all unless it might be a semi-auto 44 magnum with a large magazine and nobody makes one yet.

 

[Aerindel]

And the first snow today. I am in the Banana Belt of Alaska.

Wow, I'm a thousand miles or so south, but we had first snow a couple weeks ago.

 

[Aerindel]

How did they cope with the constant knowledge that at any moment a surprise assault could erupt from the tree line next to the field where they HAD to work?

That is pretty simple.

They didn't put up with that. They hunted down, and eradicated the threats in their area BEFORE the farmers moved in.

Its why throughout history, the first thing you do when settling an area, is clearing out all the serious threats. You can't get anything done if you are looking over your shoulder the whole time.

 

[Alaskajohn]

Hopefully we can snooker Alaskajohn & you to discuss that. It gets colder where you are then where I live. It has been in the 40'& 50's the last week. And the first snow today. I am in the Banana Belt of Alaska.

We have about 2-3 inches mostly from a few weeks ago, and we missed the snow that you all got. But that’s okay as I am still trying to recover from the last two winters. By this time the last two years we were almost knee deep. I’m not sure I would have much to say about heating. A woodstove and a Toyostove probably is boring discussion!

 

[Sourdough]

Hard to beat a Toyostove in the north. They do require electricity.

 

[Aerindel]

Hard to beat a Toyostove in the north. They do require electricity.

I heard they didn't make them anymore.....

I had one when I was in Alaska.....work well if on grid.

 

[ssonb]

Yesterday I left a post cause I had pressin chores ,actually the wife told me to put that thing down(tablet) get that grill fired up and cook our supper. Being the man I am I immediately TOLD her ,yes mam.
Ok so to continue,
The main procedure in the eastern woodlands when movin west to settle was a lot like you would see in the movies was to find or team up with someone who had been over the ground before. This guide would sometimes just be paid for this job but most would be entrepreneurs that would advertise that they were lookin for a group to lead to a certain area for settlements.
Most of these type leaders would not be looking for pay to guide but family groups that would follow him because he was risking more on this endeavor than most. He would build the station , fort or trading post. There are hundreds of them scattered allover with names like Martin's station, Bledsoes fort, Boonesborough. This establishment would be the center point for trade and mutual protection for that area.

 

[Frodo]

For bear?

Black hawk. In 44 mag. With a burris scope. Sitting in a cross drawn by Frodo