Remembering Veterans Today!

[Caribou]

Just knowing what you are dealing with has to help! I just cannot understand why /how the government can give free services to illegals and money to their personal interests ( Ukraine for example), but overlook our veterans!!!!

Veterans tend to be conservative and vote Republican. It is the same reason that ballots coming in from foreign duty stations have a problem reaching the ballot box in a timely manner.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

Agent Orange disability is only awarded by the VA if the veteran has one of the 15 diseases recognized by the government as being AO related.
A number of cancers, some heart diseases, Parkinson’s and others.
The percentage of compensation ranges from 0% to 100%, depending on many factors.

Civilians think veterans have it made with the VA, but don’t realize the unofficial motto of the VA is: Deny, Deny, Until They Die.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

I forgot to add that the veteran has to prove he or she was exposed to Agent Orange.
Anyone who actually served In-Country, boots on the ground, is presumed to have been exposed.
For the Navy, the government has a list of ships that were known to have either been exposed, or were close enough to the shore to have been possibly exposed. If your ship is not on the list, too bad for you.
There were also several Pacific islands where the chemical was stored, if you were assigned there you qualify.

 

[Lenny]

Just knowing what you are dealing with has to help! I just cannot understand why /how the government can give free services to illegals and money to their personal interests ( Ukraine for example), but overlook our veterans!!!!

I agree. People commit crimes by coming here illegally and they reward them with our tax money, while saying FU to the rest of us. That's a crime!

 

[rice paddy daddy]

The way Vietnam vets were treated was pretty sad.

I give President Ronald Reagan all the credit for shaming the American people into seeing what they did.
And the positive fallout of that is today’s military personnel are thanked and revered for their service. I am happy to see that, and if our treatment was the cause of that, good!!

Some Vietnam vets are stuck in the past and have been carrying a grudge around for 50 years. They also still cry in their beer about how even the VFW turned on them.
Not me. Life’s too short to live like that. I prefer to be happy, joyous and free.

 

[Weedygarden]

I prefer to be happy, joyous and free.

I'm with you on this, no matter what is going on. People who are unkind or just plain mean do not last in my circle of life. I stay away from them as much as possible.

 

[Tommyice]

I forgot to add that the veteran has to prove he or she was exposed to Agent Orange.
Anyone who actually served In-Country, boots on the ground, is presumed to have been exposed.
For the Navy, the government has a list of ships that were known to have either been exposed, or were close enough to the shore to have been possibly exposed. If your ship is not on the list, too bad for you.
There were also several Pacific islands where the chemical was stored, if you were assigned there you qualify.

My Dad's ship was there repairing the swift boats. Some of the guys have AO claims and the DOD required them to prove the ship was in VietNam

 

[backlash]

The Army added the Korean DMZ to the AO list.
If you were stationed near the DMZ in the 60s and 70s you are presumed to be AO exposed.
One of the presumed disease is leukemia.
My BIL was there and he died from leukemia.
The VA added the people working on the aircraft that sprayed AO to the list of exposed.
VA.gov | Veterans Affairs

 

[rice paddy daddy]

The government covered up a lot of places where AO was used, and stored, so they wouldn’t have to pay so many claims.

People who want government run healthcare should be forced to have VA as their only healthcare for at least a year to see what they are really asking for.

 

[backlash]

We have a brand new state of the art VA clinic near me.
They can't get doctors so my last checkup was with a doc in Idaho via telephone.
They actually wanted me to drive 50 miles to the clinic so I could have a video conference with him.
No thanks, just call me.
Up until now I didn't have any complaints with the VA but it's getting worse.
I'm probably going to go back to community care.

 

[rice paddy daddy]

Doctors at my VA clinic generally last about two years before they leave. My nurse told me why - the idiotic rules, paperwork, and bureaucracy get in the way of patient care plus are very frustrating.
For a while, nurses were hard to come by, too.

The VA healthcare workers are top notch, according to what I have seen. It's all the paper pushers that destroy a good system. Plus, it may take months to get an appointment.

I stay enrolled in the system, just in case. But I don't actually use it. My Medicare supplemental pays everything with no deductibles or co pays.

 

[Magus]

Anyone ever know of something good the government didn't F'K up with red tape?

 

[Caribou]

I've had hit and miss with the VA system. Most recently I have been refused a treatment, prescribed by a VA paid doctor, because they "didn't see it in my chart." They hid it from me but I was shown it by a technician. Like I said, I've had some really good treatment.

I had a problem with a anesthesiologist. I asked, my surgeon to have her removed from the OR. "She outranks me." I was coming off the table after her, immediately after foot surgery. I was mildly upset. (Read ******* ****ed). I was mad, not stupid, I didn't put any weight on my new surgery. You never know what you're going to get.

 

[Lenny]

I forgot to add that the veteran has to prove he or she was exposed to Agent Orange.
Anyone who actually served In-Country, boots on the ground, is presumed to have been exposed.
For the Navy, the government has a list of ships that were known to have either been exposed, or were close enough to the shore to have been possibly exposed. If your ship is not on the list, too bad for you.
There were also several Pacific islands where the chemical was stored, if you were assigned there you qualify.

My ship is on the list.

 

[Neb]

I've had hit and miss with the VA system. Most recently I have been refused a treatment, prescribed by a VA paid doctor, because they "didn't see it in my chart." They hid it from me but I was shown it by a technician. Like I said, I've had some really good treatment.

I had a problem with a anesthesiologist. I asked, my surgeon to have her removed from the OR. "She outranks me." I was coming off the table after her, immediately after foot surgery. I was mildly upset. (Read ******* ****ed). I was mad, not stupid, I didn't put any weight on my new surgery. You never know what you're going to get.

I looked into the VA but discovered I am among the last if even I would qualified. Add to that a 1hr drive to get to the closest facility was nothing I wanted. I passed on the VA.

But about 30 years ago I did some work on VA computers. The experience left me feeling icky. The VA reps would seldom be available at scheduled times. The systems were a hodge podge of government committee selected hardware never was completely functional. Then there was extra paper work to document...



Ben

 

[kenv1950]

You ready to tear up ?