Toxic Plants Don’t Make Other Plants Poisonous BY LAIDBACK GARDENER

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Question: I have a big, beautiful brugmansia I lug outdoors for the summer. It grows in an appropriately large tub and I was thinking of planting nasturtiums in it. I wanted to grow them for their edible leaves and flowers.

However, I know brugmansias are poisonous. Will growing edible plants in a pot with a poisonous one make them toxic too?

Sylvie

Answer: No.

Poisonous plants are toxic because they contain toxic substances of their own making. This is a natural protection they evolved over the eons . . . usually to keep pests (like humans) from eating them! However, these substances are not transferred intact to the soil. In contact with dirt, they quickly break down into harmless molecules. Nor could any plant absorb the complex molecules that make up plant poisons even if they were any still present in the soil. Plant roots can only absorb the simplest elements.

Let’s take a specific look at brugmansia or angel’s trumpet (Brugmansia spp.). The main toxic compound in this plant, present in leaves, flowers and stems, is an alkaloid called scopolamine (hyoscine). There are others, but they’re similar alkaloids and react in the same way. The chemical formula of scopolamine is C17H21NO4. And it is indeed highly poisonous. But plant roots can’t absorb chemicals as complex as C17H21NO4. . .

Scopolamine quickly breaks down into perfectly safe elements once the leaf or flower is dead. Since it only contains carbon (C), hydrogen (H), nitrogen (N) and oxygen (O), it will turn mostly into carbon dioxide, water, nitrogen and oxygen. Those are the simple everyday elements that make up most plants . . . and human beings. Nothing to worry about!

You could even use brugmansia leaves as a mulch or a soil amendment and they would absolutely not make your nasturtium (Tropaeolum majus) leaves and flowers poisonous!

And there is no reason not to add dead brugmansia leaves and blooms to your compost bin either.


In the wild, close encounters between edible plants and poisonous ones are the norm. Plants simply don’t line up with the edibles on one side and the deadlies on the other. They all grow together. Imagine a poor squirrel trying to figure out if it could eat that acorn that grew too close to a holly or yew . . . 2 poisonous trees. It wouldn’t make sense!

And gardeners place poisonous plants next to edible ones all the time. Potatoes are poisonous in all their parts except their tubers. Yet, no one suggests removing them from the vegetable garden! Rhubarb is poisonous, yet a common vegetable garden plant. Some gardeners even claim stinging nettles make great companion plants for vegetables and plant them in their gardens. (Not me, though! I will knowingly not plant anything likely to sting me in my garden!)

Could a Poisonous Plant Toxify Neighboring Plants in Other Ways?
This is a long shot, but maybe pollen could fall from a brugmansia flower and land on a nasturtium leaf or flower. In that case, the part eaten might be just a little bit toxic.

However, is that even a problem? I mean, you could solve that simply by rinsing the flowers and leaves with water before you eat them. Something you undoubtedly do anyway!

Just Do It!
So, go right ahead and plant nasturtiums under your brugmansia. Just rinse the resulting leaves and flowers before you eat them.


(Peanut, this maybe a Forage forum thread)
 

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