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Support Gunner said:
Yeah thats why they started Talkfirearms because of corporate taking over from another forum. An since we wouldnt bow down to them, they banded us from that sight.

An now things happened over there and now we are here.

An that ^^^^^ is the PG13 version of it. Lol

Thanks for having us.
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I was in on the ground floor (OK, maybe the 2nd floor) when TF started. I was lucky enough to catch Havasu's parting shot at the "other place" before he was banned and the post removed. Otherwise I would never have known about TF. I followed him and Phideaux to TF. After a while I found that HCL was a better fit for me. Welcome over to HCL, @Support Gunner , and all the others...
 
Supervisor42 said:
Holy coincidences! I worked in Madison for 20 years.
They make several different guns there, I just don't know which ones.
Edit: There is a good range on County Line Road off the interstate in Madison called "Last Resort Guns":
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I've shot there before. They sell guns too!;)
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I've been there to purchase bullets, but have shoot at Larry's Pistol and Pawn. I've got someone I want to take some shooting lessons from.

Which company did you work for? I worked for Intergraph for 19.5 years.
 
Angie said:
I've been there to purchase bullets, but have shoot at Larry's Pistol and Pawn. I've got someone I want to take some shooting lessons from.

Which company did you work for? I worked for Intergraph for 19.5 years.
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Ummmm, I worked on some of Intergraph's equipment.
And Chrysler's equipment before they to sold to Seimens VDO, (I worked on theirs too), before they closed and Remington bought the plant.
I could have gone into the Remington plant, but never did before I retired.
And I have bought guns and ammo at Larry's too:).

If we both worked in Madison for 19 years, the odds that our vehicles passed each other is >100%:D
Small world, huh?
 
Someone should to draw a flowchart showing the family lines of this forum.

For example, I started on KTOG (KelTec Owners Group - a firearms site) and voluntarily joined up at TalkFirearms on Phideaux's urging. I probably would have been banned on KTOG as many here were from their original forums, but I received a heads up, and therefore kept my head down. Then one day I went to login to TF and I was very surprised to find myself on HCL instead. I already knew of HCL from back when TF was started (at the same time). So I was quickly able to figure out that some kind of merge must have happened.

I believe there was a Glock forum that contributed members to TF. A Bersa site contributed as well. These, like the KTOG site I came from, were under the same poor management that started all this migration. I'm sure there were probably others that contributed to TF, but I can't remember all of them. I assume there must have been other, non-firearms sites, that contributed to the original HCL that TF has now merged into.

Not that it matters where people came from before HCL, but it would be interesting to hear the heritage of it all, just for fun. I imagine that people bind themselves to a forum because of the other people there, not because of an overriding common interest. Out of many dozens of firearms, I own exactly one KelTec, yet that was the "home" forum I bound myself to for many years - because of the people there.

I find the people here on HCL are good folks. I don't think I exactly fit into the "Home and Country Living" mold, I'm more of a suburb kind of person (although I'd rather be rural, but the fact is, I'm not). I'm happy here at HCL none-the-less, just because of the people I have met.
 
Supervisor42 said:
Ummmm, I worked on some of Intergraph's equipment.
And Chrysler's equipment before they to sold to Seimens VDO, (I worked on theirs too), before they closed and Remington bought the plant.
I could have gone into the Remington plant, but never did before I retired.
And I have bought guns and ammo at Larry's too:).

If we both worked in Madison for 19 years, the odds that our vehicles passed each other is >100%:D
Small world, huh?
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Yep, very small world. Now Intergraph is consolidated into one large building by Inter-lake and owned by a European company. And all the flat building area is sold to Madison and being leveled to become part of Madison Town Center a mixed use area.
 
Haertig said:
Someone should to draw a flowchart showing the family lines of this forum.

For example, I started on KTOG (KelTec Owners Group - a firearms site) and voluntarily joined up at TalkFirearms on Phideaux's urging. I probably would have been banned on KTOG as many here were from their original forums, but I received a heads up, and therefore kept my head down. Then one day I went to login to TF and I was very surprised to find myself on HCL instead. I already knew of HCL from back when TF was started (at the same time). So I was quickly able to figure out that some kind of merge must have happened.

I believe there was a Glock forum that contributed members to TF. A Bersa site contributed as well. These, like the KTOG site I came from, were under the same poor management that started all this migration. I'm sure there were probably others that contributed to TF, but I can't remember all of them. I assume there must have been other, non-firearms sites, that contributed to the original HCL that TF has now merged into.

Not that it matters where people came from before HCL, but it would be interesting to hear the heritage of it all, just for fun. I imagine that people bind themselves to a forum because of the other people there, not because of an overriding common interest. Out of many dozens of firearms, I own exactly one KelTec, yet that was the "home" forum I bound myself to for many years - because of the people there.

I find the people here on HCL are good folks. I don't think I exactly fit into the "Home and Country Living" mold, I'm more of a suburb kind of person (although I'd rather be rural, but the fact is, I'm not). I'm happy here at HCL none-the-less, just because of the people I have met.
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The Country Living and Homesteading is a state of mind. I’ve known “homesteading “ types that only have pots on an apartment patio. So you fit as much as anyone else and we’re glad you’re here.
 
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Haertig said:
Someone should to draw a flowchart showing the family lines of this forum.

For example, I started on KTOG (KelTec Owners Group - a firearms site) and voluntarily joined up at TalkFirearms on Phideaux's urging. I probably would have been banned on KTOG as many here were from their original forums, but I received a heads up, and therefore kept my head down. Then one day I went to login to TF and I was very surprised to find myself on HCL instead. I already knew of HCL from back when TF was started (at the same time)...
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Let's not forget Georgiahunting.org a fine example of a dead forum where all the people got run off.
(I don't think Angie will ban me for posting a competitive site since they haven't had a new post since 12-26-18:eek:)
There are even members called Havasu and Birddogz there. After forensic analysis of these and others, one thing is common among them, Something called CMG:dunno:.
 
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Supervisor42 said:
Let's not forget Georgiahunting.org a fine example of a dead forum where all the people got run off.
(I don't think Angie will ban me for posting a competitive site since they haven't had a new post since 12-26-18:eek:)
There are even members called Havasu and Birddogz there. After forensic analysis of these and others, one thing is common among them, Something called CMG:dunno:.
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I remember Ga Hunting. If you see anyone from there, please let them know this place is available for other interesting members. Hunting is part of homesteading or country living. Food gathering by gunshot.
 
I agree the flow chart is quite confusing. I started on Jeep Forum in 2005, when Keith owned it. He sold that to another company and had expressed interest in branching out with many gun forums. Together, we helped Keith and Austin set up Glock Forum which then branched to Rugertalk, Marlin Forum, Bersa Forum, Springfield forum, and good lord, maybe a dozen others that I can't even remember now!
 
havasu said:
I agree the flow chart is quite confusing. I started on Jeep Forum in 2005, when Keith owned it. He sold that to another company and had expressed interest in branching out with many gun forums. Together, we helped Keith and Austin set up Glock Forum which then branched to Rugertalk, Marlin Forum, Bersa Forum, Springfield forum, and good lord, maybe a dozen others that I can't even remember now!
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Whatever happened to Austin? He was well liked...
 
Wow! ,
Listening to all you guys, brings back memories and forums, I had done forgot about.

As Haertig , for many years , KTOG was my home forum, MANY lifetime friends from there I spent 5 years hosting an annual shoot at my farm in Kuttawa Ky,

I was always visiting other forums, like Prepared Society, and Glock, Cummings, . Then one day Havasu and Austin, way back when, ask me to help out as Mod at Rugertalk when it was started, ...that was a great Guntalk forum, which took a lot of my time from KTOG, . also Bersa, Springfield, Marlin and several others .We have great folks here today from all those forums,

Rugertalk was well established, and running very well, so I found I had some time on my hands,
The next thing I knew I was the only Mod, working to rebuild Prepared Society with Austin backing me up, and I think Havasu was always in there somewhere for help.
I eventually gained help at Prepared Society, with Senrty18 and Caribou ,as 2 fine moderators, and a great group of people at Prepared Society and it was starting to really be fun and a great forum.

Then "CMG" hit the big time takeover, and Glock, Prepared Society, Rugetalk, Ktog, and most of the gun forums and I, found ourselves needing a new home.

Thats when Kieth and Angie started up TF and HCL. Along with many of us following.

Is that a nutshell?:popcorn:

Just an idea , I would gather all the Forum Bloodline related posts and gather them into their own thread,

Jim
 
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I still call Austin every few months or so. He is doing good, living and working down in Texas. He has separated from forums and is now working as a chef at a private "small kid" school, and in his down time is a teacher at the same school. His wife is dealing with some serious medical concerns, so if you don't mind, next time you are talking to the guy upstairs, I'm sure he could use the thoughts.
 
I read all 4 pages from our explanation and it donned on me how many great forum members are no longer active . This makes me sad.

As a side note, Keith said he now communicates with Chris Dildy on a daily basis, and he is now a really nice guy saying he was mean because CMG wanted him to be mean. CMG has sold all the forums, fired all the staff, but still I will reserve judgement until he posts in here as to the real reason as to why he treated his faithful volunteers like crap.
 
havasu said:
I still call Austin every few months or so. He is doing good, living and working down in Texas. He has separated from forums and is now working as a chef at a private "small kid" school, and in his down time is a teacher at the same school. His wife is dealing with some serious medical concerns, so if you don't mind, next time you are talking to the guy upstairs, I'm sure he could use the thoughts.
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Sorry to hear that his wife is low, & my best to both of them. I can relate to the health issues. The Influenza bug that laid me out last March was a tough one to beat, still had the racking cough into June. My sis in law spent 45 days in Hospital with it, & is still a little wobbly. We all had Flu shots, but they weren't for that bug. Go figure.

I was going to take SS since I turned 65 in March, but SS moved the goal post to 66, or I take a $300 per month hit.for "early retirement" @ 65. There is a catch though. SS forces you to sign up for Medicare @ 65, & contrary to popular opinions it isn't free, to the contrary, it costs me out of pocket about $150 per month. You can't opt out either. If you do opt out, they garnish your SS benefit @ 10% from the time you start collecting it till you die, & if you go the "opt out" route it can't be undone. Even if you just wait till you retire at 66 to sign up for Medicare, they will still penalize your benefit 10%, & then bill you another 10% anyway. Once they start the penalty billing it can't be undone, so they have you coming & going. So far this year I've shelled out about $1100 cash for "Free Medicare", which is crap insurance compared to the plan I'm on from my wife's work, which cost about $80 per month, & is much better.

I'd complain some more about it, but that would probably get me "Red Flagged", which would be a bad thing, since if they take my guns, I won't be able to sell any more of them to pay for my free healthcare. The Government is wonderful, & I feel well looked after & protected.
 
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Spikedriver said:
I just visited RT the other day. It still said Carbon Media at the bottom of the page. Surprised that a new owner would keep the name, as bad as their reputation was...
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Ah Spike, nice to see you. The last I remember you'd just started a job out around San Berdoo, or Upland? I scanned a pic I thought you'd like. It's me up on the deck of Continental's #62 working a derailment out at The Newhall Curve for PMT. Just setting up rolled over Pig Trailers, & towing them back to the PMT yard in L.A. They had a few derailments there in the Mid 70's. Don't know why, but they got it fixed eventually.

Here's the old, grainy pic anyway. I wish I was in that good of shape today.

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SeventiesWreckers said:
Ah Spike, nice to see you. The last I remember you'd just started a job out around San Berdoo, or Upland? I scanned a pic I thought you'd like. It's me up on the deck of Continental's #62 working a derailment out at The Newhall Curve for PMT. Just setting up rolled over Pig Trailers, & towing them back to the PMT yard in L.A. They had a few derailments there in the Mid 70's. Don't know why, but they got it fixed eventually.

Here's the old, grainy pic anyway. I wish I was in that good of shape today.

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Good to see you as well, @SeventiesWreckers ! Trains are derailing all over right now. Maybe you should get back in the business!
 
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