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Or maybe you really are playing with some wannabe teenage Rambo (living in his parents basement), who is just fantasizing about growing up to be an addled brain adult living in an upstairs flat.
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neither are worth bothering about, neither will survive post collapse.
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It takes alot of discipline and hard work to live a prepper or homesteader lifestyle. Playing video game simulations isn't anywhere near the same. Planning something on the computer vs actually doing something...like all day putting up food (for days), buying food storage, dating and storing, growing and maintaining that huge garden, raising and butchering livestock....it is amazing how time and energy intensive it is. This can't be done by putting your nose in SHTF literature, or your face in simulation games.
practice, practice, practice.
rotate,rotate, rotate.
eat what you store, store what you eat.
and finally, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
none of this will get done sitting on your backside playing computer(or even war) games.
prepping isnt all about the violent side, most of survival is repetition, repetition, repetition.
rotate,rotate, rotate.
eat what you store, store what you eat.
and finally, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
none of this will get done sitting on your backside playing computer(or even war) games.
prepping isnt all about the violent side, most of survival is repetition, repetition, repetition.
Like I've said, you can stay in the starving riot-torn city if you like and good luck with that..
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As for your other points-
1- Siting a hillfort on high ground gave the defenders an advantage because they could throw spears downward at the enemy, but with firearms a bullet doesn't need gravity to make it go faster. Anyway if Doomsday Hall was on a hill it'd be a sitting duck for enemy snipers..
2- After the apocalypse the Hall group will grab all they can from derelict stores before anybody else grabs it, such as guns, canned food, fuel etc.
Here the 'Survivors 1975' group are hand-cranking petrol up from an underground tank at a deserted filling station, then helping themselves to food at a deserted supermarket before the rats get it-
3- We won't have to "vet" new members, because the very fact that they want to join the hall group shows they're made of the right stuff and are the type we want..
4- There's an old military doctrine- "whoever fires first wins", so our rooftop sniper will squeeze rounds off at long range and the bad guys won't know what hit them.
5/6- Like i said, we're going to grab guns from deserted gunshops and food from deserted supermarkets rather than leave them for the bad guys to grab.
As for food later on, we'll grow/hunt/fish our own, here's the veg plot behind the Hall-
I'm not just a prepper, I'm also a survivalist and always plan ahead by looking at worst-case scenarios such as a plague or meteor bombardments that wipe out 99% of the human race.
So when the disaster hits it makes sense to move out of the city to a big country house and start growing food, because nothing will grow in concrete..
Sorry for your thread getting hijacked by a troll curly, it was good while it lasted, but that's the internet
You're an Aussie mate and in case you hadn't noticed, this is the UK Preppers thread, and as Curly is English he's welcome to join the Hall group anytime.
In fact people of any nationality are welcome to join if they radiate tough positive non-defeatist vibes.
Now go back to polishing your boomerang..
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I see you're in Arizona mate and voted against Trump and his wall, good luck with that when the illegals waltz across the undefended un-wired border and start pinching your brussel sprouts...
just as long as nobody beats you to it first.I'm not just a prepper, I'm also a survivalist and always plan ahead by looking at worst-case scenarios such as a plague or meteor bombardments that wipe out 99% of the human race.
So when the disaster hits it makes sense to move out of the city to a big country house and start growing food, because nothing will grow in concrete..
I'm a prepared survivalist and I got out of a city years ago, 22 years in fact, I married a country girl born and bred who knows more about rural matters than I ever will.
actually your wrong, a lot of things will grow and push up through concrete.
Thanks, and as a matter of interest how many people do you think a spread like this could support, as we don't want more members than the land can feed..
Good for you mate, here's one of the bedrooms at Doomsday Hall you can both have; sorry about the candles but there's no electricity post-apoc..
I dont need electricity, I lived off grid for 12 years without it.Good for you mate, here's one of the bedrooms at Doomsday Hall you can both have; sorry about the candles but there's no electricity post-apoc..
Yeah who needs electricity anyway?..
Here's the 'Survivors 1975' group having an after-supper singsong in the big country house they've moved into, you'd never guess it was post-apoc apart from the paraffin lamps.
And the song is interesting, it's as if they're glad they don't have to get up to go to work tomorrow because they know the old rat-racing world has gone forever and doesn't matter any more..
Yeah who needs electricity anyway?..
Here's the 'Survivors 1975' group having an after-supper singsong in the big country house they've moved into, you'd never guess it was post-apoc apart from the paraffin lamps.
And the song is interesting, it's as if they're glad they don't have to get up to go to work tomorrow because they know the old rat-racing world has gone forever and doesn't matter any more..
basing your survival on fiction is a recipe for disaster.
"Survivors" was good, much better than the later p.c. remake but they did a lot wrong and most of it would have got them killed in real post collapse life.
Yes, but fictional films and TV shows are often a good guide on what NOT to do..
Example, don't upset your compass-
In 'Run for the Sun' Widmarks ladyfriend puts her bag (red circle) on the dash but there's something magnetic in it that messes up the compass next to it (yellow).
"Okay we should be over Mexico city now" says Widmark and starts descending through the clouds only to see a vast area of uninhabited jungle below him with fuel running out-
SPOILER ALERT
After crashlanding in the jungle when his fuel ran out, Widmark makes an almighty goof by telling the 3 plantation owners who rescued him and his girlfriend that he knows they're wanted war criminals, so of course they go gunning for him!
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dont put your compass on top of your rifle barrel.
fiction is for entertainment not for prepping or survival, its for ratings, for "bums on seats" and above all its for profit, getting it right dosent come into it.
I'm not basing my survival post collapse on the fevered mind of some Hollywood film director.
fiction is for entertainment not for prepping or survival, its for ratings, for "bums on seats" and above all its for profit, getting it right dosent come into it.
I'm not basing my survival post collapse on the fevered mind of some Hollywood film director.
Like what?
The only things i've seen do that are the alien machines in War of the Worlds..
The right balance of membership numbers at the Hall will be essential; too few people and they won't be able to work the land efficiently, but too many will mean it'll be a struggle to feed all the mouths.
Here are the Doomsday Hall group (about 25) at their evening meal; the whole aim and objective of life at the Hall will be to put enough food on the table for at least one good noshup like this per day, with still enough left over for a decent breakfast and supper..
Incidentally this is the Hall kitchen-
Hmmm..smells good..
Here are the Doomsday Hall group (about 25) at their evening meal; the whole aim and objective of life at the Hall will be to put enough food on the table for at least one good noshup like this per day, with still enough left over for a decent breakfast and supper..
Incidentally this is the Hall kitchen-
Hmmm..smells good..
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The Doomsday Manor plan has more holes than swiss cheese. The skills needed, the equipment needed, the fuel needed, the supplies needed and all the other items needed are not going to be found AFTER a major WROL / SHTF event. Your OPSEC still sucks. This is a fantasy plan without any chance for success. Just because somebody wants into your group does not make them worthwhile or safe. Very dumb recruiting outlook. It appears that your group plans to be marauders, breaking into shops and stealing everything not nailed down. You forget or don't realize that when a society starts to breakdown, all resources will be tapped out. Gun shops will already be emptied out. Stores will already be emptied out. Fuel will already be gone. Roads will be blocked by abandoned vehicles. Mismatched firearm calibers will be a huge problem. What good is it to have 25 shooters when half of them can't find ammo? I could go on for days and many pages poking holes in the Doomsday Manor plan but all the other members already see the issues with you concept. It appears to me that you do not actually have any real military, hunting or prepping skills. You really need to practice these real world skills before you plan to rely on them. Growing food is an art form / science. Hunting and trapping is an art form / science. Fishing is an art form / science. Sniping is a science and requires top notch equipment, great shooting skills and a very particular mindset. Every year thousands of hunters go into the woods and come back empty handed. Every year professional farmers have crop failures. I would be more interested in your posts IF you had listed what you would have stored vs. just stumbling upon. Logistics require real planning. For example: How many in your original group? What are their skills? What supplies will they have? Where will the supplies come from? How will the supplies be transported? How will your group be structured? These are the type of things REAL WORLD preppers concern our selves with, not fantasy world plans with no details. Anybody can post pictures but the actual planning and logistics require moving out of the basement and into the real world to gather real world experience. When you post actual details on how the Doomsday Manor will become reality, then I will respond, until then it is just fantasy land and not worth my time.
Hey knock off them negative defeatist waves man or the Apocalypse will have you for breakfast..
I'm sure we've already had more than enough enough defeatist talk from useless politicians, eg-
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No offence but you remind me of some woman named Lisa in a religious forum who kept saying "You can't just steal stuff or move into peoples country houses in an apocalypse"; we tried pointing out to her that 99% of the worlds population would be dead and that there were empty shops and houses everywhere, but she said "that doesn't matter, you still can't steal or take over their homes"
We laughed her off the board, she's probably gone back to the kitchen..
Far from having a defeatist snowflakey attitude, our Hall group will have a winning mindset and be THE DOMINANT GROUP IN THE AREA, and other groups will fear us rather than the other way around.
"No rules in a knife fight" will be our motto.
We won't go looking for trouble but if it comes we'll take a leaf out of Al's book--
"If sumbody messes wid me, I'm a-gonna mess wid him"- Al Capone
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The crops and animal food products you are showing have a huge learning curve to process. I work a small farm, as many of us on this site do. We grow as much food as possible, and raise animals for food and do the butchering. I hope that if the video game scenario with 25 people to help is your plan, that you at least choose 25 sharpshooter/farmers. Otherwise it seems as though you are just showing us pictures of your utopian video game set up, or the scenes from the movies you like best.
So, question for you...what do you do now? Garden? Raise your own meat? Store a years plus of food?
So, question for you...what do you do now? Garden? Raise your own meat? Store a years plus of food?
People have been living self-sufficiently for thousands of years so if they can do it I'm sure the Hall group can..
Here are the jobs and chores that'll need to be done around the Hall, some of our members will have various skills and can teach the rest-
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Not answering the question...what do you do? And I mean now.
Well when the apoc hits, a few of us will load our food stocks into a van and drive out to a big country house (Doomsday Hall).
The stocks will last us for a few months while we're planting seeds etc, and we can also fish/hunt/gather.
Meanwhile our group will slowly grow as other people will begin drifting out to join us..
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Again no details. A few of us. How many is a few? Behive, where are you going to get the bees? Where are you going to get the bee hive and bee attending equipment? Fishing, what equipment on hand now? Distilling sea water, again where are you going to get the equipment? Vehicle patrol, where are you going to get the fuel? Making bread, you have the components and the skills now? Workshop, what tools do you have?. Harvest, what happens if the event happens at the beginning of winter? The devil is in the details, and those are sorely lacking in all your posts. Since you continually fail to provide any details, it must be because you don't have any sort of detailed plan. Failing to plan is a plan for failure.
There'll be all sorts of stuff laying around in the deserted post-apoc world, you name it and we'll grab it- tools, fuel, vehicles, popcorn etc no problem.
And here's our workshop behind the Hall where we can make and maintain our tools etc
As for vehicles, we'll pick up a baby like this from a derelict army base and use it for our foraging trips into town, we'll need a good driver and somebody on the gun to hose down the grockles.. ("Grockle" definition- a condescending term for anyone not lucky enough to be in our group)
Below: the Hallmobile hits town-
and we'll have this song blaring out of our roof-mounted loudspeaker to strike fear into the grockles-
