Weapons?

[Silent Earth]

The biggest losers in our British society due to the knee jerk, fear driven anti knife and gun bans are those very same City Centre liberal, left wing do gooders who demanded the ban in the first place. The criminals love to rob and burglarise the wealthy middle class idiots who flaunt their wealth and social status then wonder why they get mugged, robbed, happy slapped, steamed etc.

There again I am like Big Paul in being completely baffled as to why any sane person would choose to live in a British left wing socialist, multi cultural, diverse, inclusive paradise that is a British city in 2014. As soon as we started a family we made huge personal sacrifices career, money and family wise but we put as much distance between us and the city as we could as soon as the kids came along.

 

[lonewolf]

I was brought up in a city and lived and worked there for 43 years, but I always wanted to get out-must be the country boy in me!! I got out 15 years ago purely by accident, I married a country girl who didn't live "living in a city"(we were in the suburbs and were much closer to the Cornish border(the next county) than we were to the city centre,) anyway we got out and 5 years ago we moved to our present location on the edge of a small rural market town with a very small population.

 

[myhomemycastle]

famrs can work for you without the hard work. i no the government pay you for leaving the land to go natural

 

[DrHenley]

Farmer here can be paid for letting the land go natural too. It's called the Conservation Reserve Program (CRP).

From:
http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/webapp?area=home&subject=copr&topic=crp

"The Conservation Reserve Program (CRP) is a land conservation program administered by theFarm Service Agency (FSA). In exchange for a yearly rental payment, farmers enrolled in the program agree to remove environmentally sensitive land from agricultural production and plant species that will improve environmental health and quality. Contracts for land enrolled in CRP are 10-15 years in length. The long-term goal of the program is to re-establish valuable land cover to help improve water quality, prevent soil erosion, and reduce loss of wildlife habitat."

We have close to 100 acres in CRP.

 

[lonewolf]

yes I believe farmers were paid to leave some land alone it was called "set aside", these days I think they are just paid on the acreage they own.

 

[Silent Earth]

There is also EU Farming subsidies to encourage farms to lay aside land for wildlife habitation, parts of the EU / UK are trying to protect critters like badgers, wolves, beaver, otter, butterflies, certain flora and fauna.

 

[lonewolf]

that's when their not culling the likes of badgers that is.

 

[pooky2483]

The main problem with registering a gun (depending on the disaster i.e. break down of rule of law) those preppers with guns are going to be sitting on a list of high priority targets (I would assume as thats who i would go after if i was in there shoes).

The laws in the Uk make it pretty much impossible to carry any useful knife (yet carry a 12 inch screwdriver is perfectly legal). Then there is the even more broad stretching "offensive" weapons laws which essentially mean that if any item is deemed by the police as offensive (whether it be a walking stick, essentially anything) it can land you in trouble... so this makes defence EDC pretty much impossible.

And our American friends thought they had it bad with their gun laws, we can't even carry a damn twig without good reason.

 

[pooky2483]

Is the UK full of friggin *******?
I just went over to a UK Prepping forum and saw this post...

I thought, WHAT! are they serious! When the SHTF there will be NO law.
They are even stopping us from DISCUSSING weapons.
If that's the case then I don't think I'll be visiting that particular site any more!

 

[Gazrok]

When you outlaw guns....only outlaws have them.....

 

[lonewolf]

Is the UK full of friggin *******?
I just went over to a UK Prepping forum and saw this post...
View attachment 3980 I thought, WHAT! are they serious! When the SHTF there will be NO law.
They are even stopping us from DISCUSSING weapons.
If that's the case then I don't think I'll be visiting that particular site any more!

yes, I got banned from that particular forum for speaking my mind, apparently that wasn't allowed!! there are other Brit prepper sites not just that one.

 

[Silent Earth]

Is the UK full of friggin *******?
I just went over to a UK Prepping forum and saw this post...
View attachment 3980 I thought, WHAT! are they serious! When the SHTF there will be NO law.
They are even stopping us from DISCUSSING weapons.
If that's the case then I don't think I'll be visiting that particular site any more!

Ah Yes UKP often referred to as Unwanted Knitting Patterns in light hearted jest as at one time it appeared to be ran entirely by middle aged menopausal women who objected to anything contentious, I was led to believe that it had improved greatly in recent times, looks like I was misled. I don't use many UK forums not so much because of the sad, lame and lazy who appear to be attracted to many uk based forums, but by going onto prepper to prepper e mail groups you get no trolls or trouble makers. so there is less arguing and bad stuff.

One problem that still persists on many UK forums is the mistaken belief that Bushcraft and Wilderness Survival is " Prepping" when its clearly not, its only one small and useful facet of preparedness and survivalism, again sadly many in the uk think prepping only involves living in bashas in the woods eating slugs n snails and rubbing two boy scouts together to make fire.

 

[lonewolf]

the sad, lame and lazy who appear to be attracted to many uk based forums.

I had a very short conversation on another forum with a chap who lives in Bradford, West Yorkshire, a place that itself has a population of 293,277 and is part of a larger urban conurbation with a total population of 522,452, this person reckons he will be okay after SHTF as he "will share with the neighbours", I honestly wished him the best of luck with that and left.

 

[Gazrok]

again sadly many in the uk think prepping only involves living in bashas in the woods eating slugs n snails and rubbing two boy scouts together to make fire.

Many here think that too.
Most I'm aware of, are homeowners looking to bug in at their rural homes.

 

[bgoldstuff]

When you outlaw guns....only outlaws have them.....

Spot On ! That's why I have always said, our society started going down hill when man quit wearing Iron on his hip!

People tend to rethink things for when the playing field is even, " God made Man, Sam Colt Made them Equal ! " Shoot

 

[pooky2483]

I don't think I'll ever bother with any UK prepping site. The only way we can openly discuss weaponry is on US prepping sites.
Sadly due to circumstances, I only have the option to 'stay put' and fortify our little bungalow. Oh, and stock up on 'silent weapons'... I can't wait to get my first cross-bow.

 

[Silent Earth]

Hah ask Big paul what happened when I eagerly bought my first CrossBow from Crossbows4U, a 150 pound draw beauty, two days later I was still in hospital and it took over a year to get back to about 80% fitness, that's why I sold the crossbow and bought a compound bow instead


To macho to read the instructions that said USE A ROPE COCKING AID !!!

 

[DrHenley]

So these TV shows where people are rapid firing their crossbows are not quite realistic?

 

[bgoldstuff]

So these TV shows where people are rapid firing their crossbows are not quite realistic?

Doc, It's kinda like Fantasy Football !

 

[lonewolf]

depends on the crossbow I guess, I got an old Barnet Wildcat 100lb crossbow, stand it upright on the butt, put all my weight on the string, cock it no trouble(or as we say "piece of p##s") and fairly quickly too.

 

[Silent Earth]

So these TV shows where people are rapid firing their crossbows are not quite realistic?

Yup unless you use something with a low draw weight it takes a fair old bit of effort to cock a 150 pound draw bow. Get it wrong and you face weeks of bed rest and testicles the size of oranges

 

[bgoldstuff]

Yup unless you use something with a low draw weight it takes a fair old bit of effort to cock a 150 pound draw bow. Get it wrong and you face weeks of bed rest and testicles the size of oranges

Thanks for the heads-up, I think I will stay with a Cartridge! LOL Shoot

 

[psalm 7]

80lb is strong enough for a cross bow . I'v seen the heavy pulls cocked and fifer fast but I'm not going to . I know someone that shot a deer with a 45lb compound bow and the arrow zipped through one side out the other and went out of sight .