I have a hard time believing we pass through to the other side and maintain our Earthly state of consciousness. I also don't think everything just ends and your existence goes from there to absolutely not there. I think we sort of live on in a way, but in what state of consciousness I can't even begin to fathom!
What do you think happens when you die?
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All I can say for sure is Houdini, the worlds best escape artist, said that if there is a way to come back he would find it. Well, no one has heard from him since....
Seriously, I believe it’s just over. My advice is enjoy life. Love more than hate and surround yourself with positive people. Life is a really short ride, make the best of it.
Seriously, I believe it’s just over. My advice is enjoy life. Love more than hate and surround yourself with positive people. Life is a really short ride, make the best of it.
Apparently, those really smart people aren't familiar with the law of the conservation of energy. Our energy, or soul, etc. has to go somewhere...
I've definitely wondered about it, and read up on pretty much any idea out there on it. It is intriguing. I keep coming back to REALLY GOOD cases of reincarnation, where it's just too damn obvious that yeah, that person seems to remember an awful lot about a past life they couldn't have otherwise known about. So it certainly points to SOMETHING after....
Personally, I feel we kind of travel, as only energy can, to a different plane/universe, etc. of existence...one that can even interact with our own, in certain ways, but also following rules we don't yet know. Some of us, likely most of us, simply kind of melt back into a collective universal consciousness, but others, who've maybe lived more lives on Earth (or elsewhere), etc. may retain more individual signatures, and then choose to come back, reborn into another body, while other bodies simply pull from the collective for their "soulstuff"....
Again, just my own imaginings on it, based on different phenomena from things like past life cases, spirit communications with entities, etc. It could all be hogwash, for all I know, but since actually doing astral travel, and seeing the stupid silver cord (which I used to always think was bs)....it's made me realize that there may be a lot more to it all, and that maybe we aren't as ignorant about it as we think we are.
That all said, the below is definitely some good, solid advice:
I hope there is something after this. It just seems kind of sad if there isn’t. I still believe in my heart that the light goes out when we expire, but also hope otherwise.
Like I said, really smart people say we die and that's the end of it. There's no evidence of a soul in our bodies.
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I must not be very smart and I'm very glad I'm not.
Smart people believe nothing happens when you die, but that doesn't mean stupid people believe something happens. It's just that the smartest of the smart believe you simply die and nothing else happens.
I just hope we don't get reincarnated, because--with all my sins--I'll probably come back as a cockroach for the next 10 lifetimes.
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How many of those smartest people also have God complexes or such.
Many just can't imagine having any competition.
Many smart people believed in String Theory and Dark Matter. I've said for years it was a crock of crap they cooked up just to make their math work.
I'm looking more and more right, while they all go back to the drawing board (and try to come up with more ideas for grants).
So, you can't put too much faith in these "really smart people" to always be right. (and this includes Dr. Hawking, who also bought into that nonsense).
Interestingly enough, you never hear about Dr. Bekenstein correcting one of Hawking's theories about black holes (one of the now laws of thermodynamics of them), and Bekenstein's doctorate is in PHILOSOPHY, whereas Hawking's is in math and physics (with a specialty in cosmology).... LOL... Just goes to show you that even the smartest of us, can be wrong (and often).
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I've got too much going on with living to think about what happens after I die. That being said, I have ensured that my kids and grandkids will be well taken care of after I'm gone. Death is about the only thing that we all have in common, and we'll all find out soon enough.
Where did you hear that the existence of dark matter has been disproved?
It's a good point, and right in line with prepper thinking....about our kids, etc. The wife and I are looking into doing prepaid funeral arrangements, and of course, we have life insurance, etc.
But, this way, when we pass, the kids won't have the burden of a) trying to figure out what we would have wanted, and b) struggling financially on how to pay for it. We had to pay THOUSANDS when my wife's father passed away, and I definitely wouldn't want my kids to go through that.
Luckily, my father was in the service, so his was taken care of that way. My wife's mother, we still had to meet and decide things, but at least her sister paid for everything (she should have, she's a billionaire after all). (and no, we don't see any of that...lol...my wife is a bit estranged from that part of the family I guess). It's funny how billionaires have like ZERO concept about the cost of things. I asked her how much she thought a gallon of milk was...she said, "Oh, I don't know, about $25 or so?" Just...wow....
But, this way, when we pass, the kids won't have the burden of a) trying to figure out what we would have wanted, and b) struggling financially on how to pay for it. We had to pay THOUSANDS when my wife's father passed away, and I definitely wouldn't want my kids to go through that.
Luckily, my father was in the service, so his was taken care of that way. My wife's mother, we still had to meet and decide things, but at least her sister paid for everything (she should have, she's a billionaire after all). (and no, we don't see any of that...lol...my wife is a bit estranged from that part of the family I guess). It's funny how billionaires have like ZERO concept about the cost of things. I asked her how much she thought a gallon of milk was...she said, "Oh, I don't know, about $25 or so?" Just...wow....
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No matter. I still love THE BIG BANG THEORY. This is in response to the string theory post. I'm not crazy
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We aren't going to have any type of funerals. We are just going to be cremated and that's it. If anyone has anything to say to me, do it now. Funerals are so expensive and it's money that can be better spent for the care of my family
String theory has been all but disproved.
As for dark matter, each leading particle for it gets disproved as being "it" nearly as soon as it is proposed. That's because it's a BS "invention" used to make the math work. If you are truly interested, here's an article you'll like:
https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/dark-energy-may-not-exist
Even Einstein knew he was "fudging" it.
The show? Or the theory?
Disproving string theory or dark matter doesn't disprove the idea of the Big Bang (i.e. the universe being born out of a singularity).
As for the show, the realization of string theory as BS was disastrous for Sheldon, as he then had to search for a new purpose. An interesting way the show reflected real current events in science. (it was funny though, because my wife knew how much I thought it was BS years ago, and since she only learned of it through the show, she looked at me and was like, huh? How'd you know back then?)...LOL
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The show......
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We had to pay for a friend and you can do it for around $2000.
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I remember Sheldon was traumtized..
Everyone talks about theories proven or disproven, and I wonder if people think about these issues in the wrong way.
As an example (because I work in the medical field), consider the idea that handwashing prevents the spread of disease.
The man who discovered this (Semmelweis) met resistance to this idea since it went counter to the prevailing notion that disease is caused by miasma (or bad air, which makes sense when we consider that tuberculosis, pneumonia, and influenza are airborne, and diseases like allergies can certainly be caused by airborne pollen), and he couldn't offer an explination for why handwashing prevented disease...all he knew was that handwashing in chlorinated lime worked (this was before the germ theory of disease). He was confined to a mental institution and died after getting beaten by the guards. People even believed that it was morally wrong for physicians to wash their hands before obstetrical proceedures because God decreed that Eve will have her pains in childbirth multiplied in punishment for tempting Adam.
So, my point is that theories and ideas may seem outlandish and counter to prevailing wisdom...yet still be true.
Also, there's a difference between a theory that is refined and a theory that is discarded. Both may be wrong, but "wrong" is not an absolute.
To show what I mean, an ancient Greek librarian and astronomer (Eratosthenes) discovered that the Earth was round (and measured the Earth's circumfrence), so he assumed it was a perfectly round billiard ball.
Columbus discovered that there was a bulge at the equator, so the Earth was, very slightly, an oval shape.
The sattelite Telstar One used precise measurements to determine that the bulge is slightly larger below the equator.
And so on.
My point is that this gradual process is different from insisting that the Earth is a sphere one century, a pyramid the next century, and shaped like a cube the century after that.
Eratosthenes' assumption that the Earth is a perfect sphere wasn't disproven by Columbus...just refined.
It's the same with evolution by natural selection. Science doesn't have all the answers, but religious people point at the gaps in our knowledge and try to prove that it all must be wrong, and this, in itself, is misleading and does a disservice to both religion and science.
I'm sure it's the same in physics, applied mathematics, black holes, and string theory.
As an example (because I work in the medical field), consider the idea that handwashing prevents the spread of disease.
The man who discovered this (Semmelweis) met resistance to this idea since it went counter to the prevailing notion that disease is caused by miasma (or bad air, which makes sense when we consider that tuberculosis, pneumonia, and influenza are airborne, and diseases like allergies can certainly be caused by airborne pollen), and he couldn't offer an explination for why handwashing prevented disease...all he knew was that handwashing in chlorinated lime worked (this was before the germ theory of disease). He was confined to a mental institution and died after getting beaten by the guards. People even believed that it was morally wrong for physicians to wash their hands before obstetrical proceedures because God decreed that Eve will have her pains in childbirth multiplied in punishment for tempting Adam.
So, my point is that theories and ideas may seem outlandish and counter to prevailing wisdom...yet still be true.
Also, there's a difference between a theory that is refined and a theory that is discarded. Both may be wrong, but "wrong" is not an absolute.
To show what I mean, an ancient Greek librarian and astronomer (Eratosthenes) discovered that the Earth was round (and measured the Earth's circumfrence), so he assumed it was a perfectly round billiard ball.
Columbus discovered that there was a bulge at the equator, so the Earth was, very slightly, an oval shape.
The sattelite Telstar One used precise measurements to determine that the bulge is slightly larger below the equator.
And so on.
My point is that this gradual process is different from insisting that the Earth is a sphere one century, a pyramid the next century, and shaped like a cube the century after that.
Eratosthenes' assumption that the Earth is a perfect sphere wasn't disproven by Columbus...just refined.
It's the same with evolution by natural selection. Science doesn't have all the answers, but religious people point at the gaps in our knowledge and try to prove that it all must be wrong, and this, in itself, is misleading and does a disservice to both religion and science.
I'm sure it's the same in physics, applied mathematics, black holes, and string theory.
All of these major theories have holes you can drive not just a mack truck but a 747 jetliner through. The big bang theory not only doesn't work in math no matter how hard they try to pretend, but it fails in observations as well. For example, when you have an explosion, everything goes from the center outward. Unfortunately for that theory we have lots of galaxies going the wrong way, how does a galaxy make a sharp turn?
But to say a theory was lacking due to a minor detail isn't important, it's nit picking. Little things for little minds. Sure, refine things, but make sure the foundation is solid.
It's when you miss on the main point (the foundation) that matters. We had global cooling in the 70's (oh, scratch that). Wait, we had global warming in the 90's. Well fudge... Hey, let's call it 'climate change'... yeah, that's it. One lie after another after another. The truth is that 'researchers' (using that term very loosely) just needed new ways to get funding. That effort has been a glowing success, to the detriment of the world.
I believe a key thing is to start with the foundation of a theory, and make predictions of what will come or what else will be discovered that support it. For example Darwin thought we'd have more transitional fossils than current-species fossils. Oops, missed that one big-time. He said whites were the more advanced human species & would need to eradicate the lesser races. Dang, zero for two. Evolution is contrary to DNA. Strike 3? Strike 40? Strike 999,999? At what point do you go from flaws you can gloss over to foundational failings where it all crumbles away under examination?
We can start with the same evidence. Opinions kick in, and we can interpret that evidence in different ways. At some point you transition from facts to personal interpretations. We have the same fossils. Some look at those and interpret to show neanderthal man existed. I look at the same fossil and interpret a hundreds-of-years-old human (fact: brow bones never stop growing).
But to say a theory was lacking due to a minor detail isn't important, it's nit picking. Little things for little minds. Sure, refine things, but make sure the foundation is solid.
It's when you miss on the main point (the foundation) that matters. We had global cooling in the 70's (oh, scratch that). Wait, we had global warming in the 90's. Well fudge... Hey, let's call it 'climate change'... yeah, that's it. One lie after another after another. The truth is that 'researchers' (using that term very loosely) just needed new ways to get funding. That effort has been a glowing success, to the detriment of the world.
I believe a key thing is to start with the foundation of a theory, and make predictions of what will come or what else will be discovered that support it. For example Darwin thought we'd have more transitional fossils than current-species fossils. Oops, missed that one big-time. He said whites were the more advanced human species & would need to eradicate the lesser races. Dang, zero for two. Evolution is contrary to DNA. Strike 3? Strike 40? Strike 999,999? At what point do you go from flaws you can gloss over to foundational failings where it all crumbles away under examination?
We can start with the same evidence. Opinions kick in, and we can interpret that evidence in different ways. At some point you transition from facts to personal interpretations. We have the same fossils. Some look at those and interpret to show neanderthal man existed. I look at the same fossil and interpret a hundreds-of-years-old human (fact: brow bones never stop growing).
Don't know about you, but that's a hefty chunk of change to me, and not one my kids would come up with easily. (though they won't have to, like we did).
He's not wrong. We may differ a lot on our ideas about evolution (though I will agree with TF there are holes), but I also agree with TF that there is a lot wrong with the Big Bang Theory (not the show). Simply put, observations don't match the hypothesis, yet it is treated by science as almost gospel.
I'd agree here, but all too often, scientific theory BECOMES mainstream BELIEF....
Climate change, as cited above, is a great example. In the 70's, they tried to convince us we were on the cusp of a mini ice age. Now, its global warming. Really? When REAL average mean temperatures haven't changed a bit (within statistical norms), despite all these dire predictions. The ONLY way you can show a rise is to ONLY look at major population centers which are going to have a temp increase due to other factors such as population, industry, construction materials, pollution, etc. Taken as a whole though, no increase at all. Still.
Now, I do agree we need to find greener ways to do things where it is sensible to do so. But, this fear mongering to get is there is not only unwanted, but unnecessary.
Well, it was the purpose of his grant! Hehe....
I think his new focus though, is dark matter, so he is likely in for another disappointment...lol.
He'll likely commit suicide if loop quantum gravity ends up being the real deal.... (though I think we're safe with that, though it's probably the closest one yet).
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My brother died recently. Drug overdose, years of addiction and not really a surprise. Still really sad though. I shopped around a lot and finally found a place, Atlantis Cremation Society in central Fla., (where my brother lived). It was 875.00, no service, ceremony or anything. They picked up the body, cremated him and gave some ashes in a cardboard box to a relative near there. I found prices up to 5k for cremation. 12 to 18 hundred seemed average. I learned that most funeral homes just sub out to these places and add their charge on. It pays to do some research. Usually the family is distraught and are easily talked into rash financial decisions.
My money is that our current idea of the size of the universe is completely wrong.
I'm betting that just like a guy on an island thinking the island and the sea he sees, are all there is....we only think we are aware of everything, when in reality, we only know a much smaller piece of the whole.
It's like in Men in Black, when our universe was in a marble, in a bag of other marbles, then carried by an unimaginably large alien child (who himself is in a world, in a universe, etc.). Such an idea is likely more correct than the screenwriter realized.
So, for example, as we go out in the Universe, we see these large areas of empty space...between solar systems, between galaxies, between clusters of galaxies, etc.
So, what if our Universe (or what we describe as such), is really just another large cluster, and there is more empty space all around it....and THIS is why our math doesn't work...because that missing NINETY FIVE PERCENT that they think is dark matter, isn't "dark" at all, it's simply BEYOND our current ability to detect and theorize, and yet still out there and still exerting an influence ya knuckle heads... Just a thought. Silly I know.
I'm betting that just like a guy on an island thinking the island and the sea he sees, are all there is....we only think we are aware of everything, when in reality, we only know a much smaller piece of the whole.
It's like in Men in Black, when our universe was in a marble, in a bag of other marbles, then carried by an unimaginably large alien child (who himself is in a world, in a universe, etc.). Such an idea is likely more correct than the screenwriter realized.
So, for example, as we go out in the Universe, we see these large areas of empty space...between solar systems, between galaxies, between clusters of galaxies, etc.
So, what if our Universe (or what we describe as such), is really just another large cluster, and there is more empty space all around it....and THIS is why our math doesn't work...because that missing NINETY FIVE PERCENT that they think is dark matter, isn't "dark" at all, it's simply BEYOND our current ability to detect and theorize, and yet still out there and still exerting an influence ya knuckle heads... Just a thought. Silly I know.
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