What makes someone a REAL prepper?

[montanabill]

I put the 55 gallon new water barrels in my basement.. They cost $100 here where I pick them up and bring them home...
I have the camper 12 volt water pump to pressurize the house for a while....then the simple solar pump that will work in my well to refill the barrels...
My roof catchment is only good for about 1000 gallons a year....when the snow melts.

As far as the cold keeping the riff raff out, take away the government handouts and get rid of the drug importers and the cold will finish off some of the rest..

Not too many tent cities where I am but folks are putting wood stoves in campers and motorhomes....

As far as gardening after the fall, we have some rich lowlands adjacent to lakes and rivers that will be useable....with 24 hour guard..

 

[EastenerWesterner]

I can pick up 55g plastic barrels for $5-20 each. IBC 25-75.
I get $50 IBC’s at very sketchy “natural insecticide bottling facility” You can buy their product at any home improvement store.
Sketchy because behind locked gates and you would see people scattering like cockroaches if you yelled immigration.
Buy them there, because they held a blend of cinnamon, peppermint and other natural oils blend is pretty nontoxic. Smell pretty good as I am rinsing them out too.

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

Mental preparation on making very Cold , Hard Brutal decisions that by modern post Vietnam Standards will seem most uncivilized.

 

[zoomzoom]

Biggest issue with full IBC tanks, tractor FEL can’t lift them. About half full is the max and you better have some weight on the back of the tractor on uneven ground. Math wise 1200lb loader would lift 144g of water.

Not sure what kind of tractor you have but have you considered pallet forks on the 3-point instead of the FEL? My tractor can lift more off the 3PH than the FEL. tractordata.com can tell you the 3PH and FEL lift capabilities for your tractor.

Oh, and you can fill your FEL bucket with dirt or whatever for a counterweight.

 

[montanabill]

Mental preparation on making very Cold , Hard Brutal decisions that by modern post Vietnam Standards will seem most uncivilized.

Read "one second after" for a story about those kind of decisions....
I maintain there will have to be a division of responsibilities between the camp and nurturing and the war chief.... Decisions will have to be made in a split second.

 

[EastenerWesterner]

Not sure what kind of tractor you have but have you considered pallet forks on the 3-point instead of the FEL? My tractor can lift more off the 3PH than the FEL. tractordata.com can tell you the 3PH and FEL lift capabilities for your tractor.

Oh, and you can fill your FEL bucket with dirt or whatever for a counterweight.

You are correct that the 3pt can lift 2x the loader. But you loose the tilt to place tanks on uneven ground and the lift height to place tank higher to get gravity feed (I have 1 on a stack of pallets)
The strongest 3pt fork I came across were rated for 2000lbs. That’s 240g of water

 

[Dave2001]

I live on a bIG lake, i bought a LARGE BERKEY water filter system just to have if water coop stops, also just invested in whole house generator system!

 

[UserNameTaken]

How to tell a Real Prepper from a Survivalist?

Survivalists know how to spell...

 

[lonewolf]

some preppers only prepare for short term events expecting things after a short period of time to get back to normal. me I prepare for things to never be normal again.

 

[joel]

One gallon of water weighs 8.3 pounds . That likely means toting enough water to keep a family survivable for much of a distance is not practical . I hope everyone already has their outhouse built . To flush a conventional toilet once will mean about 30 pounds of weight flushed down the toilet . -- On hand I have my outhouse as well as a solid rubber tire cart with a board already cut and waiting to be used when the time arrives to fit into my cart providing a flooring for my water jugs , I have two 6 gallon containers that will fit into the cart , for fetching water from the spring or creek . That is near 100 pounds of water per trip .

Three gallons is 24 pound in my toilet & a dry toilet is the cleanest & quickest way to change over & it needs no water, just sawdust and /or high scented oils from plants.
The compost should be spread on the pasture, not the perennial vegetables.
You can do the dig a hole & cover like a cat in summer, but it gets cold & windy behind the barn in winter.