well you agree with the double edge so what are you seeing as the pluses and the minuses
Where in the US is best?....
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I have been researching Alaska for years now, wife been there twice and once was with me. It took a LOT of will power to come home. Its a different way of living up there, just like anywhere.
Ive "investigated" Alaska a bit.
Yes, no one may be able to find you, but if you're screwed, noone can find you.
There are pkenty of ways to die in Alaska other than by human.
Animal attack.
Frostbite.
Lack of food.
If you hurt yourself bad enough to need medical attention, wheres the nearest hospital?
Also, Alaska has the highest % of suicide rate in the country, you ever think theres a reason for that?
......... although the gun laws are freaken awesome there........ pritty much non existant, ccw w/o permits etc.
Oh the plusses lol, besides guns:
Lots of game to hunt/trap, where is there not water?, seclusion, snow mobiles are transportation (awesome), not to mention the beauty of Alaska, theres more too.
Another double edged sword, because of the lack of laws on guns, everyone has one+, might be a ****** situation to have to put up with if shtf. believe it or not, there are alot of gangs in Alaska too, including the crips and bloods etc.
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Let me look at some aspects individually and let you know why I think the pluses and minuses are the way I list them.
1. It can be pricier there. The farther from a city you live the pricier things get. HOWEVER post shtf this no longer matters. For basic goods and services I am already paying near to what folks in anchorage pay for the basics, so no worries there.
2. Weather. The winter there can be a long one for sure, and some even thinks it gets cold there. MY wife and I sleep with a bedroom window open in -40 temps now. We both LOVE the snow! This helps to weed out the meek and weak and makes it more enjoyable for us. Also makes it more secure for us as snow is a natural obstacle that needs to be addressed in any sort of... "encounter".
3. Alaska is the only "State" in the world that has EVERY form of terrain known to man on earth, even a desert. This gives us HUGE choices for places and terrains to live in.
4. Alaska has AMAZING hunting and fishing. They even have subsistence permits that really make it interesting.
5. Housing. In a LOT of areas of Alaska you don't need permits to build ANYTHING. And the resources are there to build most of what you will want. Wife and I are gonna take a portable wood mill up there with us and mill our own trees from our land and build what we want. And since I am shooting for land bordering state land so that I can hunt that easily.
6. LOT of folks in Alaska own airplanes. I been wanting to get my pilots license so this is a good place to learn and to learn how to bush fly. However it is costly there.
7. People in Alaska have a very serious pioneering spirit about them still. They tend to mind there own business, BUT when a neighbor needs help they pitch in because that is how you survive up there. They understand that you can have your own space, respect anothers rights and space but still work together when it is needed.
8. Guns in Alaska are like water thru a fishes gills. To even carried concealed there you only need to be a resident of the state and have NO felonies. No special permit required. Gotta love a place that still respects the 2nd amendment!!!
9. Its dangerous there to be sure. A grizzly is dangerous! But a moose is more dangerous. Be prepared and respect the locals (wildlife).
10. Location. its a tough bish to get to! Even once you are there some places are only accessible by plane or trail. You can be 10 miles from the city but not see a living soul for years. I like this part a LOT!
These are just a few thoughts.
1. It can be pricier there. The farther from a city you live the pricier things get. HOWEVER post shtf this no longer matters. For basic goods and services I am already paying near to what folks in anchorage pay for the basics, so no worries there.
2. Weather. The winter there can be a long one for sure, and some even thinks it gets cold there. MY wife and I sleep with a bedroom window open in -40 temps now. We both LOVE the snow! This helps to weed out the meek and weak and makes it more enjoyable for us. Also makes it more secure for us as snow is a natural obstacle that needs to be addressed in any sort of... "encounter".
3. Alaska is the only "State" in the world that has EVERY form of terrain known to man on earth, even a desert. This gives us HUGE choices for places and terrains to live in.
4. Alaska has AMAZING hunting and fishing. They even have subsistence permits that really make it interesting.
5. Housing. In a LOT of areas of Alaska you don't need permits to build ANYTHING. And the resources are there to build most of what you will want. Wife and I are gonna take a portable wood mill up there with us and mill our own trees from our land and build what we want. And since I am shooting for land bordering state land so that I can hunt that easily.
6. LOT of folks in Alaska own airplanes. I been wanting to get my pilots license so this is a good place to learn and to learn how to bush fly. However it is costly there.
7. People in Alaska have a very serious pioneering spirit about them still. They tend to mind there own business, BUT when a neighbor needs help they pitch in because that is how you survive up there. They understand that you can have your own space, respect anothers rights and space but still work together when it is needed.
8. Guns in Alaska are like water thru a fishes gills. To even carried concealed there you only need to be a resident of the state and have NO felonies. No special permit required. Gotta love a place that still respects the 2nd amendment!!!
9. Its dangerous there to be sure. A grizzly is dangerous! But a moose is more dangerous. Be prepared and respect the locals (wildlife).
10. Location. its a tough bish to get to! Even once you are there some places are only accessible by plane or trail. You can be 10 miles from the city but not see a living soul for years. I like this part a LOT!
These are just a few thoughts.
40-??????
After sleeping in snow for 6months, cold weather doesnt affect me too much, however, id still shut the freaken window lmfao!
Cool show for ya, about things that could happen, Alaskan State Troopers on NatGeo i think.
And flying in Alaska is one of the most dangerous things you can do there i hear.
After sleeping in snow for 6months, cold weather doesnt affect me too much, however, id still shut the freaken window lmfao!
Cool show for ya, about things that could happen, Alaskan State Troopers on NatGeo i think.
And flying in Alaska is one of the most dangerous things you can do there i hear.
I'm kinda stuck in Utah and have looked at in through different eyes in recent times. Where we live is heavily populates but not 15 mins away you are either up in the mountains, Or in the plains in the middle of nowhere. I just wish I could buy some land out there to bug out to. I also dove through Idaho this week and see lots of possibilities here.
I find that every state has something to offer.
I too have looked at Alaska.
At the moment though I am favoring Northern Nevada, Northern Arizona, or Utah.
We're in the middle of Missouri and it works out pretty good. We have a nice growing season, no one really cares as to what we do around here as long as it's on your own property, animal feed isn't cost prohibitive, good water source, and the winters aren't stupid cold for long periods.
The downsides are the New Madrid, but we're several hundred miles from it so shouldn't be too bad. And tornados, we plan for those and hope for the best since we live in a holler and twisters seem to skip over them.
The downsides are the New Madrid, but we're several hundred miles from it so shouldn't be too bad. And tornados, we plan for those and hope for the best since we live in a holler and twisters seem to skip over them.
This is a subject that is constantly on my mind. Even though I'm new at prepping, I live way upstate in NY. There's no major urban cities and plenty of farmland and lakes. My only concern is a somewhat proximity to Montreal, Canada which is about 75 miles northeast of me. I worry about nuclear strikes. We don't get much by way of natural disasters but our winters can get very brutal. Any thoughts on whether this location is okay?
How long is the growing season?
I'm in a desert area. I need to somehow get myself to a wooded area. The desert will have to many issues to overcome. Primarily a lack of water.
Our growing season is from June through September. Commercially apples and potatoes are the mainstay but hardy stuff like onions, radishes and lettuce do fine as soon as the weather breaks mid May I guess. I've also seen blueberries and rasberries grown with no problem. I'm right above the Adirondack mountain range so water is plentiful by way of lakes, streams, springs and such.
Umm am I reading that right? A nuclear strike on CANADA? I think you should be pretty safe from that, they would probally hit New York City and the rest of the world before bothering with Canada. And at 75 miles away your well outside even the EMP that comes with those so while it is smart to take that into consideration, it's probally not something that should be high on your list, although it should be on it, just in case.
As for which State would be best? IMHO I would say any of them would be great. It just depends upon how you are prepped. If you live in the desert you should prep accordingly. To be honest a desert would be a GREAT place simply because SO MANY people view them as a bad place. I know water is an issue, but you can at the very least make a solar still which can be done with some plastic and some rocks. And there is so much there that you can eat!!! And if you have a site already prepped, say with half dozen 40' containers with supplies laid up you would be golden for quite some time.
I'm In deep east Texas on a fresh water lake in a small community out of the city. I,m staying put surrounded by forest lot of small game and fish.
If its total shut down like no electric I would stay clear of the mid west and far away from the northern states unless cutting wood and not minding putting up smoke signals so all criminals and starving people will come check out if there is food at your home. I'd say southern states and stick to wooded areas and makes friends. The reason Indians had tribes was to look after one another from other tribes that raided and took from the ones that had food and supplies. Remember people that are starving and hungry or fear they might die are extremely dangerous. I have a group of hunters and farmer friends. It's good to have a skill or trade that's very useful. Learn tanning deer skins and other small animals that's useful.
I lived in the desert in Southern California for 3 years. It's quite and even if it hits the fan it's a great place to retreat while millions of people are killing each other for food and water. But it gets 120 during the summer, water is very scarce and so is food. At night the bugs and bats comes out and you can toss a rock in the air and a bat will grab it but drop it since its a rock lol. If you live close to the AZ boarder you have the Colorado river but I'm sure it will have tons of people there since its a big tourist spot.
I just came back from Chattanooga, TN (my sister lives up there). I really love it there. The one downside are the tornadoes. I saw a lot of trees twisted and ripped up from tornadoes. We get them in Florida but not often and we get hurricanes here too (don't get me started on the hurricane hitting New Orleans or New England). You can see hurricanes coming and prep or move out of the way (unless you are from New Orleans or New York or New Jersey - HEY, I told you don't get me started...).
I like Florida because there are few days where the weather can actually kill you. The water table tends to be high so you access to water is not like other places in the US (mind you I know that there are droughts here and water isn't just laying around in 55 gallon drums - but its not like Arizona or New Mexico - there are places where you dig a shallow hole and you will hit water and other places where you have to dig pretty deep). I like Tennessee because of the mountains but then again the winters can get brutal (for a Florida boy). Both places have no State Income Tax and are great supporters of the Constitution's 2nd Amendment.
Just my quick assessment filled with my humble opinion.
I know it's full of hardcore liberals but I like southern Oregon it seems like a good place, plenty of game, water and the climate is mild.
I plan to head to New Hampshire, nice wooded area, and if the SHTF the smart people with no skills should head south to avoid the cold winters. Hopefully I can master the skills of being self sufficient during the winter and set up a little paradise.
Alaska and maybe Montana, but definitely NOT Oregon and Washington. They are losing their rights just as quickly there as New York. Oregon has even introduced a bill to make it okay for illegal searches to confiscate your guns. I would say Arizona or Texas before anywhere else. Arizona has even just passed a law making it illegal to detain an Arizona resident without cause against Obamas executive order making it legal to detain any US citizen indefinitely.
I am also in Washington state (southwest), here we have volcano's and the potential for a big earthquake, Wyoming has one of the world most dangerous active volcano's (caldera) so Montana, Utah, Colorado and Idaho could be a problem, mid west is too open if you have to BOB out (thunderstorms, tornadoes) I tend to like places with plentiful game/water/somewhat mild climates and multiple destination choices depending on circumstances, in the warm/hot humid South (being from Texas I am) greater care of stored food and equipment and clothing needs to be tended more often depending how its all stored also dehydration being a issue. I lived in the Bad Lands for a year, 2 seasons hot and cold and not a lot of water if any in much of the Bad Lands during the summer, I like states that's not going to swing wide in weather variations that isn't widely open to the elements. Even if you plan to hunker down in a stationary location BOB needs to be part of it (sxxx happens) Think about having to BOB out during tornado season if you chose tornado alley for your home or if you want to hide from drones, its very much open!
