Where is the South, exactly?

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People say that they live in "UP STATE" New York. Where is that....??? Up near Watertown, New York....???

Others have said if you are not in Albany, New York then you are "Upstate".
Around here (in NJ) upstate NY means the Catskills and Capital Region. To this girl who drives I-81 North past Watertown, upstate is where I can see Canada from my front porch.

@joel the only bragging I can do about NJ is you can spend the morning at the beach and the afternoon in the mountains. Oh, and we were instrumental in the Revolutionary War (kinda of ironic now isn't it?)
 
I live about 5 miles north of the Mason-Dixon line now and grew up 5 miles south of the mason Dixon line. It all kind of spills over in this urban area but you start going north in Indiana and you lose that southern feeling the closer you get to Indianapolis.

You go a few miles south of Louisville and all you have to do is hear how a lot of people ‘is going to do things’ to realize ‘you is in the south’.
 
The Deep South is centered on the Mississippi Delta (northwest portion of Mississippi stretching east and west between the loess hills on the east and the Mississippi River on the west, and stretching north and south between the lobby of the Peabody Hotel in Memphis and Catfish Row in Vicksburg) The Deep South includes nearly all of Mississippi, most parts of Louisiana, and parts of Arkansas, Tennessee, and Alabama.

Southern Virginia east of the Blue Ridge seems to me to be nearly as Southern as the Mississippi Delta even though it is technically not "Deep South." Certainly more southern than the places I have lived in Alabama and Georgia.
 
This is what we South Carolina RedNecks use.
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The Mason-Dixon Line is a demarcation line that separates the borders of four US states: Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and West Virginia. The line was surveyed between 1763 and 1767 by Charles Mason and Jeremiah Dixon to settle a border dispute between the British colonies of Maryland and Pennsylvania/Delaware. The line runs north from the southwest corner of Delaware and along the southern border of Pennsylvania before turning south at Delaware.

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How the Mason-Dixon Line Divided the North and the South
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The Mason-Dixon Line has been an important part of American history, especially during the Civil War and the Missouri Compromise. In 1820, the Missouri Compromise banned slavery north of the Mason-Dixon Line, which helped determine the Union and Confederacy factions during the Civil War. The line also became an iconic boundary between Northern and Southern cultures, as large landowners in Maryland and Delaware were less dependent on slave labor than those in the Lower South and were unwilling to join the Confederacy.

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There a line about a 15 minute walk north of my place that separates people that say "younz" from those that say "yall".

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There is a part of The South called the Bible Belt.
And the general area where we live has been described as the buckle on the Bible Belt.
When churches outnumber bars and liquor stores 50 to 1 I know we live in the right place.
 
Okay, quiet down & let someone else brag on their state..
Well, until after I graduated from high school Robert E Lee’s birthday and Confederate Memorial Day were Florida state holidays.
We be in da South.
 
My husband is a “Longhorn”. We live in Oklahoma. We went to a sports bar once with my son and daughter-in-law to watch the Oklahoma/Texas game where I proudly said our loud “Hubby Is a Longhorn!” My son told me maybe I shouldn’t announce that. 🤣
 
There is a part of The South called the Bible Belt.
And the general area where we live has been described as the buckle on the Bible Belt.
When churches outnumber bars and liquor stores 50 to 1 I know we live in the right place.
 
Well, Arizona was a Confederate territory during the War. And the westernmost "battle" of the War of Northern Agression was the "Battle of Picacho Peak," near Tucson. And the war continues to this day between rural and urban, and we (rural) are losing... But we don't say, "y'all" or "howdy."
 
Well, Arizona was a Confederate territory during the War. And the westernmost "battle" of the War of Northern Agression was the "Battle of Picacho Peak," near Tucson. And the war continues to this day between rural and urban, and we (rural) are losing... But we don't say, "y'all" or "howdy."
The Battle of Glorieta Pass in New Mexico was in the movie The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. I had never heard of the "western front" of the war before I saw that movie.
 
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How many Color-Blind People are there here...?!? There are 4 "Deep South" States...!! and there 🐝 a passel Southern States...! Pink don't Pass Period...!!! :lightbulb:
 
How many Color-Blind People are there here...?!? There are 4 "Deep South" States...!! and there 🐝 a passel Southern States...! Pink don't Pass Period...!!!
States that have antebellum mansions in them are 'Southern', the rest are just 'wanna-beez'.
 
Stiickin' with south of the Red River!!😉

I have good friends who swear that south is below I-10, and it’s all yanks north of I-10.
 
Texas and Florida are not southern states
States above s Carolina are Apalation (sp?) , hill people they are not Southern different customs.
I know people in the Florida Panhandle that would take issue with that. You are talking about people that are on the same latitude as Mobile and Baton Rouge with just an arbitrary state line separating them from Alabama and Georgia.

Get down near Miami and sure, not Southern in the least. I have always said that those people are so far south they are north. I went to college with guys from Miami that sounded like they were from Jersey.

I have lived in Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia, and last year I bought some land in Southern Virginia, and have spent some time up there. I was shocked to discover that Southern Virginia east/south of the Blue Ridge is way more Southern than where I live in Georgia right now, close to Deep South Southern. More Southern than parts of Alabama even. Where my daughter lives in North Carolina, not far from Southern Virginia, is just faintly Southern.
 
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