White Flight reaches Australia
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Isn't that what grenades were made for?
God help those citizens being overrun.
God help those citizens being overrun.
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I am glad I am not there
Its insanity!
Nah its Australia very similar though
You've really got to stop reading and believing the Fail's Sh&te. Their reporting is dubious at best. A lot of the headlines you have posted links to are old, regurgitated and embellished. The one above, well, of course the population of London is going to grow! The population as a whole will grow until breeding ceases. As usual they have taken a bunch of statistics and skewed the results to suit their own bigoted view. What they have failed to say is that most of those people born overseas come here to work and they also fail to mention that most of those Romanians, Poles, AUSTRALIANS, AMERICANS etc go home when they have made their money or qualified. The whole story stinks.
I have no problem with Eastern Europeans. I work with a Romanian girl and have worked with other Eastern Europeans. They are hard working, polite, willing to integrate and they pay their taxes, I also have no problem with their family coming over. I keep in touch with a couple who have gone back home and my son has visited them where he was treated like royalty so generally, this country is better with them. I have a friend who works in the recruitment sector and the Polish are now going home because it is no longer economically viable for them to work over here and it is sending her company into crisis as they no longer have enough workers for warehouse work. She is off to Romania again in the next few weeks to recruit more workers direct. The reason? British unemployed don't want to work. Her company pay £10.48 an hour the hours are 3 twelve hour shifts and the company can't recruit British workers. If you want this economy to continue we need workers from somewhere as our own people won't, don't or can't bothered. So until the lazy oxymorons we breed get off their arses and fill jobs, we will always have overseas workers happy and willing to make money in those roles.
Oh and Sally the DM only REPORTED the story its an report by the government Office of National Statistics an independent NGO trespected by all sides
Hey Sal just listened to an interesting 15 minute chat on our local NE radio. They are going on about unemplyment in the NE being much higher than the national average, some interesting points, turns out there are on average 4 times as many northerners chasing every job up here than there are chasing similar jobs in the SE. They point out also that though our northern universities ( Newcastle, Northumbria, Sunderland, Teesside, Durham, York, Hull and Leeds) are turning out plent of highly edumuckated graduates over 75% of the suitable post grad jobs they want are all in the South East where VERY FEW folks from up here could afford to live. The average rent for a flat in this region is £75 a week in much of the south east its over £250 a week. to BUY an average house in this region a three bed semi runs from £60,000 to £150,000 but down south they are over £450,000 to £750,000( London) . Many kids from across the UK simply cannot afford to live where the jobs are.
I have to disagree. In the west midlands logistics companies are struggling to fill roles. What the major problem is with the whole of the UK, is British people simply will not put themselves out to get work and life balance. I wonder if those in your area have considered moving 200 odd miles (as we did) to find work and improve our lives).
When I finished university, I travelled to Scotland to get a job in the field I wanted to work in and I started at the bottom. Too many people expect to come out of Uni and be handed a job and top rates of pay simply because they have a degree, it doesn't work like that. All Uni proves is you have an aptitude for your chosen field, it not does prove you can do a job, nor does it give you a right to expect much more than a minimum wage. However, wages are generally commensurate with the local cost of living. When I worked in the south, my pay was almost double that I had earned in Scotland, I was no better off though as the difference was to make up for the cost of living. So it's swings and roundabouts.
Finally, the DM reports it's version of the facts as it sees them.
When I finished university, I travelled to Scotland to get a job in the field I wanted to work in and I started at the bottom. Too many people expect to come out of Uni and be handed a job and top rates of pay simply because they have a degree, it doesn't work like that. All Uni proves is you have an aptitude for your chosen field, it not does prove you can do a job, nor does it give you a right to expect much more than a minimum wage. However, wages are generally commensurate with the local cost of living. When I worked in the south, my pay was almost double that I had earned in Scotland, I was no better off though as the difference was to make up for the cost of living. So it's swings and roundabouts.
Finally, the DM reports it's version of the facts as it sees them.
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Yes many of our youngsters move south for careers or work but many are worse off than at home so come back for lesser paid work but get to be nearer families. The NE Chamber of commerce are currently complaining about the brain drain from this region of our brightest and best which harms this regions economy.
Its never that easy Sal if we are both honest, some years ago I was out of work wife was working So I applied for a job in Reading on BR, thought i could get a room or bedsit, work down reading and send money home to pay the mortgage. Trouble was the rents in Reading were so high that with food, council tax, utilities there was nothing left to send home so I had to turn down my dream job.
Show me any paper that does not put a twist on things
Its never that easy Sal if we are both honest, some years ago I was out of work wife was working So I applied for a job in Reading on BR, thought i could get a room or bedsit, work down reading and send money home to pay the mortgage. Trouble was the rents in Reading were so high that with food, council tax, utilities there was nothing left to send home so I had to turn down my dream job.
Show me any paper that does not put a twist on things
Exactly, but at the same time, you have to either make things happen or accept things the way they are. I'm afraid I have little time for people who moan about being out of work or having the wrong job. It's the way I was raised, my parents always said take responsibility for yourself and don't make excuses.
tell that to the young people these days, either their a snowflake who thinks the world owes them a living or they think they have no future(I know this personally), we have too many people chasing too few jobs, a lot of work is outsourced internationally. there are just too many people for the jobs there are, and that was true over 20 years ago just as much as today. i'm just glad i'm out of the jobs market.
Like I said, in this area we are struggling to fill jobs. In the last week I have had 7 emails from a logisitics firm offering me a transport clerks job. The wages are almost double the minimum wage and they can't fill it. I'm happy in my job so have turned it down (several times!) but they still keep trying! This same company has over 200 vacant jobs that they are struggling to fill, hence why my friend is going to Romania in hopes of finding workers to fill the vacancies.
the far South West of England has for some time been an area of high unemployment and high housing costs, it wasn't always so, it was different in the 60s but there are far more people now than back then, a typical house now in this area will cost 15 times the average annual salary, and renting is even worse with only a 6 month tenancy on average.
You got that right. It is a choice and there are more and more people who blame their circumstances or others for their issues instead of realizing that where they are in life is a result of their choices. I made decisions that resulted in a life that I did not plan on. So, do I blame the people in my life or do I take the responsibility? Ok so I screwed up and now I have to live with this. I do the best I can and that is all anyone can do, yes, I have a pity party about once a month but try to keep it to myself. So if you smoke, OK then expect to have COPD or worse. Drink, OK then expect to have cirrhosis, Divorce-expect financial problems, esp. if you are a woman, have kids-expect to be poorer and don't blame the children because you can't afford a new car. I mean it really is ridiculous how some people are so entitled. Want to be successful?, just work hard and hope for the best. Doesn't mean you will be successful just means that you will have a better chance at it. AND sometimes **** just happens and there is nothing to do but make the best of it. God did not promise us a rose garden down here which apparently some people expect. Somebody else take over the soapbox here.
I would enter into negotiations on that. But, that is just me. If you like your job that satisfaction is worth a lot.
I made mistakes too and paid dearly. A lot of it was out of my control, but there's no point moaning, just get on with it and now through hard work and a bit of suffering, I'm in a position where I can choose what I do. I work part time now, because I can and I don't need a huge pay packet to live, I'm not greedy.
I did think about that, but the job I am in is almost perfect and that is worth a great deal to me these days.
I hear ya, I am working in a family business for the past 7 months, before that working for twice as much wage and 6 times as much stress for 3 decades even. So live on the cheap and be happier. Job satisfaction is worth a hell of a lot. You make trade offs, like my 2500 dollar camper, I get 90% of the fun on 1% of the price of the guy with the 300K dollar rig. Who's happy?I made mistakes too and paid dearly. A lot of it was out of my control, but there's no point moaning, just get on with it and now through hard work and a bit of suffering, I'm in a position where I can choose what I do. I work part time now, because I can and I don't need a huge pay packet to live, I'm not greedy.
I did think about that, but the job I am in is almost perfect and that is worth a great deal to me these days.
That is main reason for not taking the job, I've done it before and it's full on stress, 12 hour shifts and not what I want to do anymore
I can still afford to go camping for the weekend or hop on a train and spend the day at the seaside, that's me a happy bunny
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