for those that dont know...a young man...age 22 years old..just died while making videos. he was caught in a severe snow storm and he died. i will try and find the story....its sad i seen his mother post a reply on his last video.I don't get it, Elkhound.
i have a theory...he had that broke nose...he was coming out fast because he got scared and was trucking along fast through the timber when he either hit a tree breaking his nose or fell down and hit his nose on rocks breaking it and it knocked him unconscious for a bit or addled him real bad... when he came too in that cold he had gotten frost bite in feet and lower legs and couldnt walk by then very well....and succumbed to the cold then....just my theory.That's horribly sad, Elkhound. When I first saw your post, it was just black, no picture, so that's why I didn't get it.
Into the Wild was a great read. I believe he was poisoned by a false potato-type plant rather than starved to death if I recall correctly though.My heartfelt condolences go out to the grief stricken family of this young man. Frankly I think it would be better for them to NOT find his phone to save them from suffering additional grief when witnessing any recordings of his mental and physical decline during his last couple of months alive.
I watched the last 3 YT videos that he posted a month ago. I saw a young man who was very poorly equipped for autumn let alone winter, thinly dressed, underweight, looked under-nourished, depressed and unwell, pale and thin and losing his physical strength and becoming clumsy and careless. I think he was already starving and going into a more serious mental decline because of inadequate nutrition a month before he died.
He had no boots, no proper protection for his feet, ankles and calves, just thin leather shoes and a pair of plastic slip on clogs for wearing in camp (if he had anything on his feet at all in camp). He didn't handle his hatchet properly, he was clumsy with it and watching him cut wood for kindling and a couple of times nearly hitting his own body with the blade made me cringe. And there was more that was cringeworthy
I don't know what he was trying to prove to himself or to anyone else by pressing on so unprepared into the winter months. Perhaps he was no longer thinking clearly and logically anymore at the time when he should have already been heading south for home by the beginning of September at the latest.
I feel bad for the boy and the hopeless, terrifying way that he died, and more so for his family who invested 22 years of their own lives in him only to have him waste his own life making youtube videos and making "followers" while he slowly made himself ill and dying out in the boonies.
Sorry if this makes me sound heartless but I have to say this ..... I think he was a candidate for the Darwin Award.
His story reminds me of 24 y.o. unprepared Christopher McCandless from California who wanted to "rough it" in Alaska, who starved to death in late August of 1992 and his emaciated 67 pound body was found in September in the abandoned old Fairbanks Bus #142 bus that he had been staying in out in the bush in Alaska. There was another candidate for the Darwin Award.
That is correct. McCandless was already starving though because he was out of supplies by July and couldn't get back across the nearby swollen Teklanika River to get to the road out. IIRC, out of desperation he was eating very coarse vegetation (like dogtooth fern), mushrooms, toadstools, roots and poisonous solanum (nightshade) tubers and seeds which would have caused hallucinations as well as chronic explosive diarrhea that would cause severe dehydration that would hasten his death. Maybe an easy mistake to make to eat those tubers since potato is a solanum too and the tubers of some solanums have similar appearance to potato tubers.Into the Wild was a great read. I believe he was poisoned by a false potato-type plant rather than starved to death if I recall correctly though.
yes...and it goes to reason for this thread.... @Sourdough pushing various pieces of gear starting with best sleeping bag and moving forward from there. i recently bought the bag he uses...teton -35f bag.My heartfelt condolences go out to the grief stricken family of this young man. Frankly I think it would be better for them to NOT find his phone to save them from suffering additional grief when witnessing any recordings of his mental and physical decline during his last couple of months alive.
I watched the last 3 YT videos that he posted a month ago. I saw a young man who was very poorly equipped for autumn let alone winter, thinly dressed, underweight, looked under-nourished, depressed and unwell, pale and thin and losing his physical strength and becoming clumsy and careless. I think he was already starving and going into a more serious mental decline because of inadequate nutrition a month before he died.
He had no boots, no proper protection for his feet, ankles and calves, just thin leather shoes and a pair of plastic slip on clogs for wearing in camp (if he had anything on his feet at all in camp). He didn't handle his hatchet properly, he was clumsy with it and watching him cut wood for kindling and a couple of times nearly hitting his own body with the blade made me cringe. And there was more that was cringeworthy
I don't know what he was trying to prove to himself or to anyone else by pressing on so unprepared into the winter months. Perhaps he was no longer thinking clearly and logically anymore at the time when he should have already been heading south for home by the beginning of September at the latest.
I feel bad for the boy and the hopeless, terrifying way that he died, and more so for his family who invested 22 years of their own lives in him only to have him waste his own life making youtube videos and making "followers" while he slowly made himself ill and dying out in the boonies.
Sorry if this makes me sound heartless but I have to say this ..... I think he was a candidate for the Darwin Award.
His story reminds me of 24 y.o. unprepared Christopher McCandless from California who wanted to "rough it" in Alaska, who starved to death in late August of 1992 and his emaciated 67 pound body was found in September in the abandoned old Fairbanks Bus #142 bus that he had been staying in out in the bush in Alaska. There was another candidate for the Darwin Award.
I went and looked this up last night. It was not a solanum species, it was a Faba species somewhat related to vetch, called Eskimo Potato. A legume. He had been eating the seeds instead of the tubers which are postulated to be poisonous. Wikipedia for once had some pretty good information on it.That is correct. McCandless was already starving though because he was out of supplies by July and couldn't get back across the nearby swollen Teklanika River to get to the road out. IIRC, out of desperation he was eating very coarse vegetation (like dogtooth fern), mushrooms, toadstools, roots and poisonous solanum (nightshade) tubers and seeds which would have caused hallucinations as well as chronic explosive diarrhea that would cause severe dehydration that would hasten his death. Maybe an easy mistake to make to eat those tubers since potato is a solanum too and the tubers of some solanums have similar appearance to potato tubers.
Thanks for that information about that. Looking online about the McCandless story in these days one will find so many conflicting stories, theories and speculations about what he ate or didn't eat. All the way up to McCandless "experts" saying that nobody knows what he ate or poisoned himself with at all in spite of the fact that his stomach contents were examined and toxins identified.I went and looked this up last night. It was not a solanum species, it was a Faba species somewhat related to vetch, called Eskimo Potato. A legume. He had been eating the seeds instead of the tubers which are postulated to be poisonous. Wikipedia for once had some pretty good information on it.
This young 22 y/o man has something in common with hundreds of millions of other people. It would be wise for people to look into a mirror and tell the truth.
If you are fundamentally "internet' and/or you tube" educated about survival, you are not adequately trained. Many millions will discover this in a large broad SHTF event.
I agree. Not to be unkind, but did this guy not watch other youtubers doing similar things and observe the gear they used and the warnings they gave? Obviously, this guy had no emergency exit strategy, which is terribly sad - and stupid.So FAFO outdoors.
I think they moved that bus to "Alaska State Fair Grounds" in Palmer, Alaska.The bus is scheduled at some point to possibly be put in a museum.
It does make sense. That's what I call the 6th Sense, or primal instinct, or intuition.When I first told the hunter that we could not do that. I honestly did not know why I said that. It was only as I more carefully studied the vegetation that I realized why it was not possible. The point is with 45 years of living it, you "KNOW" things that you don't know that you do know.
I do hope this makes sense.
I call it the results of 55 years of Guiding and hunting and living in remote Alaska wilderness.It does make sense. That's what I call the 6th Sense, or primal instinct, or intuition.
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