Abortion Bills

[Dani]

Up, we will never be able to stop all abortions, I realize that. Abortion laws are only getting worse not better. First it was during first trimester, then second got added, then the third. Now they want to legalize killing a baby right after it is born. You just can't get any worse than that in my opinion.

 

[user 6493]

there is no point in talking about this......the woman or girl who is pregnant means nothing to any of you who are against abortion,,,they are just a vessel to carry the baby ,,,a throw away item.............................................

 

[user 6493]

throw away one for the other,,,which is worse,,,,

 

[user 6493]

the choices in this suck,,,,,many of these young girls are abandoned by the father of the child and their families and then there are the anti abortion people who look at them as murders,,,,,,,,,,,,it's a wonderful world for the self righteous

 

[brandx]

The VA Governor even said after a child was fully birthed. If you haven't seen the video, do so.

The Bill died in committee, but 3 people voted yay.

Of course he said in case of problem with baby. What would be the standard to decide the degree of severity of a child's situation? I'm guessing that would change daily.

This is really showing the big divide in pro-choice people who are fence sitters. May come back to bite them come election day.

You know that a law such as this will pass someday. Then the government will tell women when they must abort. Just an inch at a time and the world will be completely evil.

 

[brandx]

the choices in this suck,,,,,many of these young girls are abandoned by the father of the child and their families and then there are the anti abortion people who look at them as murders,,,,,,,,,,,,it's a wonderful world for the self righteous

It's an age old problem for sure.

 

[brandx]

Just looking at https://www.cbsnews.com/news/virgin...-kathy-tran-third-trimester-today-2019-01-30/:

It quotes Gov. Northam as saying: "When we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way," Northam said. "And it's done in cases where there amy [sic] be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that's non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion."

It then reports a tweet from RNC Chairwoman McDaniel: "This is horrific [...] Dem Gov. Ralph Northam, a pediatrician himself, is defending born-alive abortions: 'The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.'"From this, she seems either to have misunderstood what Gov. Northam said or not to understand what 'resuscitated' means. Her statement is not about killing a live child but about the decision of whether to rescusitate a baby that has died during or shortly after birth.

I think it likely that the decision as to what constituted non-viable (or similar) would be made by experienced and thoughful medical professionals. And again, it's hard to believe that anyone would request, approve or undertake a late-pregnancy abortion lightly or easily.

It seems kind of ironic that hundreds of thousands of Medicaid dollars are spent on 2 pound babies trying to keep them alive and government supported abortions for almost full terms. It doesn't make sense does it.

 

[TexasFreedom]

GG,

There is both sides of this. Yes, that girl didn't recover after adopting out the baby. But there are other statistics. Suicide rates for women who abort their babies skyrocket. Addiction rates go up. Divorce rates go up. Just having the abortion does not resolve their issues, it often makes them worse.

 

[Psalm7]

These pro abortion Kid killers forget that most of Us Christian Bible thumper, bitter clinger , Deplorable Dredge , Pro Lifers did the right thing and raised Our Children worked for a living , kept groceries and clothes for Them and put Them through school and now baby sit Grand Kids .
We didn't butcher that Baby because the timing wasn't convenient or because it didn't fit into Our budget or because it didn't fit Our lifestyle .
If Someone made the mistake of going into satan's clinic and committed murder its not the end of the World They should do a little soul searching and decide how They can do better .

 

[user 6493]

These pro abortion Kid killers forget that most of Us Christian Bible thumper, bitter clinger , Deplorable Dredge , Pro Lifers did the right thing and raised Our Children worked for a living , kept groceries and clothes for Them and put Them through school and now baby sit Grand Kids .
We didn't butcher that Baby because the timing wasn't convenient or because it didn't fit into Our budget or because it didn't fit Our lifestyle .
If Someone made the mistake of going into satan's clinic and committed murder its not the end of the World They should do a little soul searching and decide how They can do better .

I am no believer in God,,,but who are you to judge anyone

let him without sin cast the first stone...........................................................

 

[Psalm7]

I am no believer in God,,,but who are you to judge anyone

let him without sin cast the first stone...........................................................

Facts aren't stones .
No one is righteous no not one . We all sin .
Iv been wild and crazy , did alot of bad things as a Young Man .
Im not judging or condemning anyone . If something is wrong and harms Others Im calling it out . Evil thrives in secret where no one will call it evil .
Iv seen many sides of life and there is a absolute right and a absolute wrong . There is very little middle ground.
I never quit sharing the Word of the Lord and never back down when Im fighting for whats right .

 

[user 6493]

Facts aren't stones .
No one is righteous no not one . We all sin .
Iv been wild and crazy , did alot of bad things as a Young Man .
Im not judging or condemning anyone . If something is wrong and harms Others Im calling it out . Evil thrives in secret where no one will call it evil .
Iv seen many sides of life and there is a absolute right and a absolute wrong . There is very little middle ground.
I never quit sharing the Word of the Lord and never back down when Im fighting for whats right .

you are judging,,,read back

 

[Psalm7]

you are judging,,,read back

Absolutely not . If someone commits a crime then they are guilty of that crime . They did it . I will tell them what they did was a crime as a form of honesty for their own good . Its not for me to judge , im not the punisher . Ultimately there will be a judgment one day . Hopefully they have repented before that day comes .

 

[Dani]

the choices in this suck,,,,,many of these young girls are abandoned by the father of the child and their families and then there are the anti abortion people who look at them as murders,,,,,,,,,,,,it's a wonderful world for the self righteous

I totally agree with your first statements. The girl is on here own many times with the biological other probably doing the same to the next girl. I am not saying it is easy for the mom. It's not but there are programs that can help, especially if she has not gotten established in a career that is sustaining with a family. I know your heels are dug in but so are mine when it comes to this subject. I am not a heartless person only thinking of the baby. I know what it is like to become pregnant without a "father" to help out. Raising an accidental child on your own can be done with both benefiting from the experience. And once again, it is the mothers choice in how she will deal with her emotions. If she is a strong person, she will do just fine with her determination. If no not maybe like the person you remember. But realky, both mom and baby have a chance at life. . . . Not one or the other

 

[DrHenley]

I don't really argue about this much because killing a helpless innocent human being for sake of convenience is not something ANYONE can justify to me.

And if you can't understand that...Save your breath. It's not up for debate.

And you damned sure better not bring up the subject with my wife. Her mother unsuccessfully tried to abort her. If abortion had been legal she wouldn't be here because SHE WOULD BE DEAD.

 

[Psalm7]

Last year a local Girl in High School near here got pregnant and Her Parents went ballistic and made Her get a abortion . She now stays depressed Her Boyfriend that had become Her Fiance has left Her and is near Homeless , He had made plans to raise the Baby . Her Parents are getting divorced and have split the Kids up with Her Dad taking Her but He has been put in rehab . All fallout from killing a Baby .

 

[user 6493]

I am not for abortion,,,but I am against anyone trying to dictate how someone else should live their life,,,,you all know who you are

 

[Mountain trapper]

I dont care to debate this abortion issue any more. We are all are set in our opinions. But GG, isn't someone telling the baby how to live, or more accurately that it can't live?

 

[user 6493]

I dont care to debate this abortion issue any more. We are all are set in our opinions. But GG, isn't someone telling the baby how to live, or more accurately that it can't live?

and you with that comment are saying the person carrying the baby has no right to make their own choice on having a baby or not,,,,,it is not your body not your life being changed by being pregnant,it is real easy to say you have to have that baby when it's not you,,,,,,how many of you have ever walked in those shoes ..I have been there seen it first hand my sister raped by some black piece of **** if you would have your way she would have had to have that baby,,do you people have any idea how hard her life would have been if she had been forced to carry it to term,,,do you even care,,,now I am done here for a while,,,,,

 

[TexasFreedom]

GG,

I'm 100% behind you on taking that piece of sh** and giving him the death penalty. Any means you want: slow fast, you doing it, your sister... I'll even stand there & hold the scumbag while you do whatever you'd like.

Let's just make sure the right one gets the death penalty.

 

[Mountain trapper]

and you with that comment are saying the person carrying the baby has no right to make their own choice on having a baby or not,,,,,it is not your body not your life being changed by being pregnant,it is real easy to say you have to have that baby when it's not you,,,,,,how many of you have ever walked in those shoes ..I have been there seen it first hand my sister raped by some black piece of **** if you would have your way she would have had to have that baby,,do you people have any idea how hard her life would have been if she had been forced to carry it to term,,,do you even care,,,now I am done here for a while,,,,,

I guess there are always exceptions to every issue. In your example I am with you 100%. In cases like that it should be dealt with asap. I guess I was thinking more on the lines of aborting a baby out of convenience. In most cases there are 2 willing persons involved. Once the woman gets pregnant then there are 3 lives involved. Two have a say and one doesn't. And the baby pays the ultaiment price for the actions of the 2 irresponsible people. In my opinion that isn't right.
Back when I was 16 I got my girlfriend pregnant. We decided it was best that she aborted the baby. Yes it would have had a huge impact on our lives if we kept it. At the time I thought that we did the right thing. Sometimes now many years later I regret that I supported that decision.

 

[tmttactical]

Yes, abortion is a difficult situation, with many variables and consideration that need to be taken into account. That is why I suggested the compromise based on the viability of the baby. That does give the woman control of her body and life but also provides some legal protection once the baby is viable. Banning all abortions simply puts the back alley butchers back in business. A safe method for the woman and then a safe legal protection for the baby. That plan could and probably would get enough support to become a national law. JM2C

 

[Psalm7]

Despite all the arguments most abortions committed by the vile abortion industry are for the convenience of selfish Parents or Parent .
In the case of a rape there should be someone in prison and when they get out a civil case that will insure the perpetrator pays heavily financially ensuring reparations are made to the rape victim and the resulting Child .
Very tuff situation . Put the blame where it goes , on the offender . There are alot of terrible crimes committed and the legal and civil courts are used to gain some closure . If the Child is kept or adopted atleast the victim doesn't have to spend the rest of their lives thinking about What if .
I worked with a Woman for several years that had a similar situation and if She saw someone with Their Children She would become upset . She has ended up becoming a prescription junkie and drunk . Very bad situation there too . Could things have turned out better if She made different decisions ? I don't know .
But I do not think two negatives helped Her at all .