Are liberal snowflakes bad where you are?

[Billy Roper]

Around here, in the Ozarks, many people practice traditional 19th century crafts as a way of life. There's even an Ozark Folk Center with a craft village dedicated to keeping those skills alive, staffed by masters and apprentices who practice them. We also have a significant Mennonite population who aren't as dependent on technology and the comfort society, either.

 

[Billy Roper]

I have a few friends here close by that while things are as they are now are pretty good friends but if it goes to hell they know where I live and what I have they will become a major concern,I may end up having to defend myself from them,if I had a place I could move to,it might be wiser to get away from those who know you,,,,safety in numbers is not always going to be a true statement

I'd like, if SHTF, to know that I have somebody in my network who is an expert at things rather than a jack of all trades: a good mechanic or two, electrician, carpenter, plumber, some military veterans, et cetera. In between now and then I could use a good lawyer and accountant friend, and I'm friendly with local and County law enforcement, which will be useful when, or if, it happens, too. That's why I'm in favor of networking, but different courses for different horses.

 

[Silent Earth]

Around here, in the Ozarks, many people practice traditional 19th century crafts as a way of life. There's even an Ozark Folk Center with a craft village dedicated to keeping those skills alive, staffed by masters and apprentices who practice them. We also have a significant Mennonite population who aren't as dependent on technology and the comfort society, either.

We even have a few Menonites living near here, couple of em used to use a UK preppers site I used. I like those re-enactment 18 th century Rendezvous that many Americans do living for a few weeks at a time like Mountain Men, living in Teepees, cooking with cast iron pots, hunting only with muskets.

 

[user 6493]

I'd like, if SHTF, to know that I have somebody in my network who is an expert at things rather than a jack of all trades: a good mechanic or two, electrician, carpenter, plumber, some military veterans, et cetera. In between now and then I could use a good lawyer and accountant friend, and I'm friendly with local and County law enforcement, which will be useful when, or if, it happens, too. That's why I'm in favor of networking, but different courses for different horses.

well Billy in a world gone mad,I don't know how far you can trust anyone who is not family,,,,even the best of people can go bad and to tell the truth until you are in that boat you can not be sure how anyone will act

 

[Billy Roper]

Oh, I know, but even after SHTF someone will be rebuilding and reconsolidating resources. I'd like it to be someone I'm close to. And in the meantime, I plan on learning as much as I can IRL from people I know face to face who are like-minded. We'll have access to resources, assets, and skillsets that others want.

 

[user 6493]

I wish you luck with it Billy,if things go south we will all need some luck

 

[lonewolf]

I live in a country where people rely on the system and rely on technology, if and when either of those go squit many will not survive and even if they do they wont know how to do anything without the internet, no sir, i'll keep myself to myself and wait for the "dying time" to take its course, no strangers for me, strangers= danger-that is my motto.

 

[Thumper]

Been watching this thread since I signed up, and its interesting to see how its evolved.

Anyway.

Paul. Got a question for ya. If you keep to yourself how do you find people that complement your skills and allow you to build new ones?

After I got out of the Corps I wanted to retrest back inside my very small circle. But didnt. And thats a good thing, cause if I had I would not be in the position I am and would still be just working another job to make ends meet instead of running and actually growing my own business.

 

[lonewolf]

Been watching this thread since I signed up, and its interesting to see how its evolved.

Anyway.

Paul. Got a question for ya. If you keep to yourself how do you find people that complement your skills and allow you to build new ones?

easy answer, I don't. i'm going for the simple life.
i'm not anticipating rebuilding civilisation, just looking out for myself.

 

[user 6493]

Been watching this thread since I signed up, and its interesting to see how its evolved.

Anyway.

Paul. Got a question for ya. If you keep to yourself how do you find people that complement your skills and allow you to build new ones?

After I got out of the Corps I wanted to retrest back inside my very small circle. But didnt. And thats a good thing, cause if I had I would not be in the position I am and would still be just working another job to make ends meet instead of running and actually growing my own business.

ok,here we go,,,,now I have the gift of gab,I can talk to and get along with almost anyone and when I was running my own business it served me well,,,,but if things do go bad I take no chances I withdraw from the world and go it alone,in a modern country where people are used to modern living,all the little goodies that make life nice take that away and you have the making for disaster which equate into theft murder and gangs,,,,who do you trust,,,,who do you dare trust,,,,,,,,,,,,,in my opinion there will be a period of time where mob rule will be the norm,,,,I prefer to avoid the madness and go it alone,,,am I wrong to think this way,maybe but it is a choice each must make for their self

 

[lonewolf]

ok,here we go,,,,now I have the gift of gab,I can talk to and get along with almost anyone and when I was running my own business it served me well,,,,but if things do go bad I take no chances I withdraw from the world and go it alone,in a modern country where people are used to modern living,all the little goodies that make life nice take that away and you have the making for disaster which equate into theft murder and gangs,,,,who do you trust,,,,who do you dare trust,,,,,,,,,,,,,in my opinion there will be a period of time where mob rule will be the norm,,,,I prefer to avoid the madness and go it alone,,,am I wrong to think this way,maybe but it is a choice each must make for their self

how right you are.

 

[Thumper]

I don't disagree with what you're saying for after stuff goes wrong. But i was asking Paul about being secluded before things go bad like was alluded to in his post.

 

[Billy Roper]

I know a lot of survivalists have the hermit mindset. I guess for me, just surviving isn't enough. Somebody is going to rebuild society, no matter how bad the SHTF is. There are going to be refugees and marauders, and people who will organized will, in my opinion, have a better chance against them than lone wolves. Quantity sometimes does overwhelm quality.

Here's an interesting article on the subject: http://shtfschool.com/survival-questions/lone-wolf-life-expectancy/

 

[lonewolf]

it all depends on the survival rate, in a time when most are reliant on the system and on technology, that isn't going to be very high.
in past times when civilisations collapsed people were able to access their daily needs by their own labour and simply wait for civilisation to reassert itself-no matter how long it took, that is not possible these days.

 

[lonewolf]

I don't disagree with what you're saying for after stuff goes wrong. But i was asking Paul about being secluded before things go bad like was alluded to in his post.

I don't have much to do with other people, I don't have the inclination, most people bore me. I prefer being alone, i prefer animals to people. animals don't let us down like people do.
I used to speak to some people when dog walking but now we don't have a dog any more I don't.

 

[Thumper]

People dont let people down when you choose em right and do right by them. Least not the ones I've encountered. But I'm selective with whom I become close to.

 

[lonewolf]

so am I I've got no time for losers and time wasters. which most people are these days.

 

[Thumper]

I guess that depends on who you classify as losers. From my travels I've found that people are not generally a waste of time. But YMMV I guess.

 

[Silent Earth]

I guess that depends on who you classify as losers. From my travels I've found that people are not generally a waste of time. But YMMV I guess.

Democrats, Socialists, Rosie O'Donnell, Harley Riders, Windows 95 users, 95% of Kalifornia, 99.999 percent of NYC, ???

 

[Thumper]

Meh. I dont pick my friends based on their political beliefs or wjat type of bike they ride. I only ask if they decide to have a political debate with me then use reasonand logoic instead if emotion. And if their bike leaks rice then theyre expected to sweep it up before they leave my garrage.

I cant say that I've encountered many socialists that are trustworthly enough to call friend though.

 

[Mountain trapper]

All of my neighbors own large ranches and are miles away from my ranch. Everyone around here are quite conservative, same demographic, and mind their own business. But in time of need they will come together, such as roundup and branding time, or to help someone truly in need. I don't have much use for any urban type from the cities. Most urbans (especially from California) are a waste of skin. Except for more medical training I have all the skills I need to survive any potential disaster, short of nuclear. And I don't care about rebuilding civilization, just my place. By the end of summer I'll have 95% of all my main buildings completed.

 

[Maverick]

I have hired high schoolers/seasonal collage folks and folks looking for work, they never lasted long! They seem to think the work is ran democratically. At my age I don't have time to make friends with newcomers nor figure out there habits and needs nor am I interested in some form of social experment. Trust is paramount and takes too much time to garner, we are setup pretty good thus why ruin what is already been successful by bringing in someone new into the fold. A good part of folks including many so-called Conservative in these parts are infected with the snowflake syndrome.

 

[Silent Earth]

I cannot afford to hire anyone, gotta do everything myself even now with one foot out of service with gout.

 

[Thumper]

I have hired high schoolers/seasonal collage folks and folks looking for work, they never lasted long! They seem to think the work is ran democratically. At my age I don't have time to make friends with newcomers nor figure out there habits and needs nor am I interested in some form of social experment. Trust is paramount and takes too much time to garner, we are setup pretty good thus why ruin what is already been successful by bringing in someone new into the fold. A good part of folks including many so-called Conservative in these parts are infected with the snowflake syndrome.

At work? I can understand that mentality. Im not there to make friends. Im there to make money.

But my experience with hiring and firing,,, has largely been the opposite of yours. Though few young kids have the requisite skills to work here.

Maybe its a different demographic here or something.

 

[user 6493]

I have a good number of friends,we help each other when needed and hang out at times but if the SHTF,I doubt I could count on any of them, everyone is going to be to busy worrying about their needs,thus even thou we are/were friends they may become enemy's ,it is a cold hard fact ,,,,,in times of real trouble the only one you can really trust is yourself

 

[Maverick]

At work? I can understand that mentality. Im not there to make friends. Im there to make money.

But my experience with hiring and firing,,, has largely been the opposite of yours. Though few young kids have the requisite skills to work here.

Maybe its a different demographic here or something.

I really don't have any young friends all are my age and older, all the friends my age don't live near me and the ones that are older are not in any condition to offer any help and the experience I have had with local worker and the mentality of most local peepers I don't want to connect with.

 

[Thumper]

I really don't have any young friends all are my age and older, all the friends my age don't live near me and the ones that are older are not in any condition to offer any help and the experience I have had with local worker and the mentality of most local peepers I don't want to connect with.

I have a couple friends that are nearly half my age. And I am closer to them and trust them than my own brother. And I have acquaintances that I wouldnt trust to pick up my drycleaning.

My friends have proven beyond any doubt that they will be there for me. And I for them.

I guess it juat depends on how you pick your friends.

At work? I have no friends. Not even my lead supervisor who was the first employee I hired when I started this company. A man Ive litterally known my entire life. Outside of work? He might as well be my brother.

Younger folks in my shop? Like I said. Most younger folks lack the skills needed to work here. And if any applied that didnt meet my requirements then their applications got put into the round file before I ever saw them.

 

[lonewolf]

i have a few friends who I have known for nearly 40 years, who I would trust to watch my back and my theirs, and have done so. but they all live in a city and have city attitudes, they are not preppers and I doubt they would ever think of leaving even in a serious event. so I plan for just me and the missus.

 

[Silent Earth]

I have a friend, I made him out of Lego ,

 

[Skeeter]

I help out on my buddy's farm some evenings and his daughter is dating what I would call a snowflake. One day I saw him and he had on a t-shirt saying he was a feminist. The guy can't weigh more than 120 pounds and looks like he'd cry if his pet goldfish died.

Something must be wrong with our school system these days.