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Good conservation can and does work. Here in the states we have much more money for things like that, but there are many countries that just don’t have resources. Overall, mankind is changing the system that took hundreds of thousands of years to balance out. The problem with all the animal species being threatened is they are all part of a chain that is interconnected. When one species is wiped out, Nature works with it. When many species are taken out of the system in a realitively short term then the system begins to break down. Things like bee populations being affected will affect our ability to grow crops, directly affecting our food supply. Taking care of our environment isn’t just good for the environment, it’s to take care of us as well.
That is why the hippies said "Love your Mother". They have some good points. Make your carbon footprint as small as possible, where clothing made of all natural materials, don't purchase plastic bottles of water. I took a 2 liter pop bottle full of water and a glass of ice to the auction yesterday while others were buying bottles from the vendor. When I buy pop, which probably isn't the best beverage to drink, I get a free container that I can use over and over.
 
I've been using stainless steel hydration bottles for many years. Naturally "BPA Free" :) Some insulated, some not.
This is my favorite. One handed operation, nice grip sleeve, can keep ice water cold overnight.
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No, I don’t. Trump recognizing Putin places the US in a weakened position, especially after calling the Europeans foes. What can he gain?

The EU is indeed our economic competition (so foes on that note). Collectively, it is the second strongest economy in the world (was even first for a brief moment). As for "weakening" our position....how is going from number 1 to number 1 in any way weakened? Leader sets the rules folks....and we are still leading.


All other NA nations and Europe are purposely isolating Putin b/c of Syria.

No, they are quaking in their boots because of Croatia, and the fact that the rest of the world basically gave him a slap on the wrist for it. They could give 2 craps about Syria.

This sends a message that Russia’s actions are perfectly fine.

Because they are (in Syria). They are supporting the legitimate leadership of a world-recognized sovereign nation (Syria). WE are the ones supporting rebels, and manufacturing phony baloney gas attacks by mercs, that even our own generals roll their eyes at. Ask yourself this, what would he (Syrian leader) have to gain by gassing his own folks at that particular time? Nothing but MORE US involvement..i.e. the very OPPOSITE of his goals. Once you answer whose motives the attacks serve, you then have your answer. It isn't complicated. Which is why it's completely gone under the rug these days.

Plus trumps own doj has indicted Russians for interfering with the 2016 election...trump says all that is foolishness...sounds like he is kissing up to Russia to me.

Because it is foolishness. For starters, the "interfering" was folks leaking (and not hacking) information on the DNC's primary rigging. They ought to receive a MEDAL, not jail. If the source were truly the Russians, we wouldn't have even known about it. Simply do a little research, I'd suggest Snowden, and you'll see that ALL hackers routinely exploit Russian nodes for their security flaws, so that nearly ALL hack attempts appear to come from Russia. But again, this wasn't even hacking, this was information LEAKS, done by DNC insiders. So yes, this whole Russia collusion is a manufactured fantasy, that is still perpetuated, and likely will be for the rest of the year. Any folks unfortunate enough to be picked as patsies (and who make noise about it) are more likely than not, going to disappear....probably before they even see prison.

I don’t think that opposing this meeting is anything more than thinking it is a bad idea.

Personally, I'm perfectly fine with two of the three powers that can nuke the world, being the bestest of buddies. Any sane person should. Or would you prefer the world's two largest nuclear powers be at each others' throats instead?
 
That's called "Cherry Picking" Doreena.

What we technically call "pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo."

Exactly.

I really wish we'd make Stats a mandatory class in High School. Because ANYONE who has taken a semester or two of it, will never be fooled by BS statistics again.

There's a reason stats are called "lies, damn lies".

Because given nearly ANY data set, a statistician can then determine what data to include/exclude (i.e. cherry pick) and whatever statistical analysis method they wish to use....to then generate a stat that supports one view or the other...and all with the same starting data set.

So, you then come to realize that unless you know all of the parameters of the data yourself, and do your OWN analysis of it, you are getting a SKEWED result, to serve whatever agenda is paying for the statistician's time. ;)

How do you think all the news networks were so fooled and blinded during the 2016 election? From those stats (polls), it was made to make Hillary appear to have had it in the bag. Funny enough, this blatant propaganda backfired, keeping folks home instead of coming to the polls. So we, the public, have SEEN just how easily stats can be skewed, right in front of our faces, and yet we (as a whole) continue to be blinded by them.

It's actually kind of mind-boggling that ANYONE believes a poll anymore.
 
The reason HRC was saying that they were all going to jail if Trump won is very telling.

Very telling indeed.

But, I seriously doubt her former supporters believe she said it (technically, she said they'd hang from nooses), even though it was among the emails leaked by Brazile. The longer narrative is even more telling, and provides more context. It was after the interview with Matt Lauer, and she wanted him fired. (I guess she eventually got her wish too, which folks forget). ;)

It's interesting, because here's a clear case where she's on record basically saying she wants to destroy somebody, and then, a year later, he's basically completely destroyed.

Or, just one of the many, many, many, many coincidental destroyed lives in connection to her? I mean hey, the guy could have been a creep, such as the reasons stated for his termination...or, he could have been set up for it. Who knows?
 
Exactly.

I really wish we'd make Stats a mandatory class in High School. Because ANYONE who has taken a semester or two of it, will never be fooled by BS statistics again.

There's a reason stats are called "lies, damn lies".

Because given nearly ANY data set, a statistician can then determine what data to include/exclude (i.e. cherry pick) and whatever statistical analysis method they wish to use....to then generate a stat that supports one view or the other...and all with the same starting data set.

So, you then come to realize that unless you know all of the parameters of the data yourself, and do your OWN analysis of it, you are getting a SKEWED result, to serve whatever agenda is paying for the statistician's time. ;)

How do you think all the news networks were so fooled and blinded during the 2016 election? From those stats (polls), it was made to make Hillary appear to have had it in the bag. Funny enough, this blatant propaganda backfired, keeping folks home instead of coming to the polls. So we, the public, have SEEN just how easily stats can be skewed, right in front of our faces, and yet we (as a whole) continue to be blinded by them.

It's actually kind of mind-boggling that ANYONE believes a poll anymore.
I still didn’t see anyone answer my question about the DOJ.

And if the US and Russia are best buddies, and we let them decide or influence our elections, I am NOT ok with that.


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Trump was not my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice, but the man has balls bigger than softballs.

He stood at the presser and asks about the servers, emails etc.

The Left are eating their own.
 
I still didn’t see anyone answer my question about the DOJ.

And if the US and Russia are best buddies, and we let them decide or influence our elections, I am NOT ok with that.


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The whole thing with the Russians is connected the HRC. Her people coluded with the Russians, sold them Uranium and tried to setup the Trump campain several times to make it look like he was coluding. Its a standard tactic of the progressive Dems, to accuse the republicans of what they are doing themselves.
 
I still didn’t see anyone answer my question about the DOJ.

And if the US and Russia are best buddies, and we let them decide or influence our elections, I am NOT ok with that.


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It's not really "Trump's DOJ" yet. Still a lot of holdovers from the Obama Administration trying to sabotage him. Trump has voiced his disapproval over "his DOJ" numerous times. We call them the "Deep State." Google it. Sessions has a tough job trying to "herd cats", so to speak. And when did you get the idea that the U.S. and Russia are "best buddies"? I see no evidence whatsoever of that.
 
It's not really "Trump's DOJ" yet. Still a lot of holdovers from the Obama Administration trying to sabotage him. Trump has voiced his disapproval over "his DOJ" numerous times. We call them the "Deep State." Google it. Sessions has a tough job trying to "herd cats", so to speak. And when did you get the idea that the U.S. and Russia are "best buddies"? I see no evidence whatsoever of that.
It was something that gazrok said (the best buddies thing)


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Trump was not my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice, but the man has balls bigger than softballs.

He stood at the presser and asks about the servers, emails etc.

The Left are eating their own.
Looks like the republicans are eating their own today with all the criticism of the summit in Helsinki. Even Ryan is highly critical as well as several others.


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Looks like the republicans are eating their own today with all the criticism of the summit in Helsinki. Even Ryan is highly critical as well as several others.


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Conservatives don't like Ryan and want him gone now. He has always been against anything Trump does. Not a good example.

Have you noticed the Left isn't mentioning the $400 million HRC received? And the ones yelling the loudest like Brennan is up to his eyes in trouble.

The truth will out.
 
Conservatives don't like Ryan and want him gone now. He has always been against anything Trump does. Not a good example.

Have you noticed the Left isn't mentioning the $400 million HRC received? And the ones yelling the loudest like Brennan is up to his eyes in trouble.

The truth will out.
It wasn’t just Ryan. Graham. McCain. Flake. McConnell. Romney. Hurd. LoBiondo. Ros-Lehtinen. Burr. Cornyn. Kinzinger. Sasse. Amash. Brennan. Steele. Abby Huntsman. All are decidedly not left or Democrats.


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It wasn’t just Ryan. Graham. McCain. Flake. McConnell. Romney. Hurd. LoBiondo. Ros-Lehtinen. Burr. Cornyn. Kinzinger. Sasse. Amash. Brennan. Steele. Abby Huntsman. All are decidedly not left or Democrats.


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Just all progressives.
 
Sorry guys, trump is completely outsmarted and out classed by Putin. For him to go against all of our intelligence agencies for Putin’s denial he has to be naive at best or blackmailed at worst. Can anyone here seriously believe putin didn’t intentionally help him win?
 
Someone has not been paying attention , every time the dumbacrats have said We got Him now the script flips back on Them .
I may not like some of His comments at the summit but thats just fluff . Who cares if someone bashes the CIA , FBI , IRS or . One comical part of it is now the liberals are taking up for the CIA .
The Democrats paid Russia for information to use aginst Trump but Your saying Russia helped Trump win ?
I can find alot of Trump supporters but I cant find anyone that says a Russian told them how to vote .
 
Doreena, you just don't get it do you? The Washington establishment, both "D" and "R", has been against Trump from the start. And that is why he won. Americans are fed up with the establishment.
We are fed up with the establishment, I agree. It is just that trump keeps putting establishment in places of power...


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Sorry guys, trump is completely outsmarted and out classed by Putin. For him to go against all of our intelligence agencies for Putin’s denial he has to be naive at best or blackmailed at worst. Can anyone here seriously believe putin didn’t intentionally help him win?
Exactly. I was thinking this AM that even if people are suspicious of the US intelligence agencies, why would they place more trust in Russian ones?


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Doreena, Trump has had the Democrat establishment, the Republican establishment, the mainstream news media, the entrenched bureaucrats in the DOJ, and all the socialist governments in Europe and North America all lined up against him trying to thwart his every move. He has had to make some compromises, not all of which we like. But he still won, and he still has made incredible progress against them.

I have said before, he personally rubs me the wrong way and always has. But I'm willing to look past my personal bias and look at what he has accomplished against staggering odds.
 
Exactly. I was thinking this AM that even if people are suspicious of the US intelligence agencies, why would they place more trust in Russian ones?


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the Russians,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,funny our agencies have covered up everything Clinton did,,,,,,the Russians made it public knowledge all the under handed crap Clinton had done over the years ,and the Democrats have been screaming collusion ever since ,but maybe the Russians just like many here in the USA were worried about what Clinton would do if elected,,,,,

AND ONLY DID WHAT MANY OF US WOULD HAVE DONE IF WE HAD THE RESOURCES TO DO SO
 
Exactly.

I really wish we'd make Stats a mandatory class in High School. Because ANYONE who has taken a semester or two of it, will never be fooled by BS statistics again.

There's a reason stats are called "lies, damn lies".

Because given nearly ANY data set, a statistician can then determine what data to include/exclude (i.e. cherry pick) and whatever statistical analysis method they wish to use....to then generate a stat that supports one view or the other...and all with the same starting data set.

So, you then come to realize that unless you know all of the parameters of the data yourself, and do your OWN analysis of it, you are getting a SKEWED result, to serve whatever agenda is paying for the statistician's time. ;)

How do you think all the news networks were so fooled and blinded during the 2016 election? From those stats (polls), it was made to make Hillary appear to have had it in the bag. Funny enough, this blatant propaganda backfired, keeping folks home instead of coming to the polls. So we, the public, have SEEN just how easily stats can be skewed, right in front of our faces, and yet we (as a whole) continue to be blinded by them.

It's actually kind of mind-boggling that ANYONE believes a poll anymore.
Absolutely right about skewed results, you can interpret a research project any way you want. There are tricks to it. That is why knowing how to read research for yourself and to know how to determine what is good and bad results, how it is done, sample sizes, and all the other things about it. Do not rely on someone elses interpretation of it. AND the media always puts their own spin on it. That is why some say, coffee is good for you and coffee is bad for you, eggs are healthy, eggs aren't healthy, the research is all the same, it is how you interpret it to others who don't know what the heck they are reading, they just believe what they are told. I used to be the same way until I took on research studies in college and it was a real eye opener!!
 
I want to hear more about the $400m that went to HRC.

I'm not hearing about it on MSM. I'm shocked. Lol

Plus, an idiot Congressman from Memphis should be ousted for inciting a coup. He has embarrassed TN for years.
I found an article by researchers that traced the money and that this claim was false. About 125000 went to Hillary and maybe 1 m to the Democratic Party. The only claimants were not valid sources that are not vetted.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-pants-fire-claim-about-400-million-donation/

I am pretty sure that you will not like this link, but please provide me a link with a decent reputation.


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I am pretty sure that you will not like this link, but please provide me a link with a decent reputation.

Sadly, politifact and Snopes, etc. are often extremely liberally biased. (at least politifact is a bit less so though). But, we don't need to, as your own link actually reveals the truth of the matter, though it's in complete opposition to the headline.

The problem with reporting on anything money related, is that it is relatively simple to farm it out via various shell corps, and charities, etc. So while the "facts" could be "correct"...in essence, the money could STILL be going through her controls. Or, conversely, NOT. So it's a dicey claim for EITHER side to make.

Like our stats examples above, fact-checker sites also require that one look at the actual raw data, vs. relying on the biased interpretation of the data, by another. I seriously doubt though that we, (or the ones doing the so-called "fact-checking") had enough access to fully examine where exactly the money went, to safely conclude it one way or the other.

A prime example of how a fact-checking can be technically correct, but how the real truth can be the complete opposite. Semantics, really.

For example, your article says, "No. We found $17,700 donated to Clinton and another $297,000 to the Democratic National Committee."

Now, we know from Brazile and the leaked emails, that the Clinton campaign and its fundraisers, were basically controlling the DNC. So, it's semantics to say some went directly to HRC, and the majority went to the DNC (on her behalf). Isn't it? Not such a "pants on fire" claim at all.... Folks need to actually READ liberal articles, because often, the headline is the complete opposite of the actual article contents.
 
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Plus, an idiot Congressman from Memphis should be ousted for inciting a coup. He has embarrassed TN for years.

I'm curious as to which folks think that President Pence (if Trump were impeached) would be MORE liberal aligned than Trump.....

These idiots should really be careful what they wish for. Wanting to impeach Trump, is the equivalent of wanting gay marriage to be illegal, abortion to be illegal, and less separation of church and state. How is ANY of that desirable to a liberal voter? Answer, it isn't. But they are too busy thinking with their emotions, to exercise logic, and see what they are going to get if Trump was impeached. Absolute idiots that want to shoot themselves in the foot.
 
maybe the Russians just like many here in the USA were worried about what Clinton would do if elected

All you have to do is look at the comments during the election. Clinton was in favor of more US involvement in the Ukraine situation, and in keeping us involved in Syria.

Meanwhile, Trump opposed both. So it's pretty easy to see why Putin would favor one over the other. Sadly for him, Trump did a 180 on Syria, and escalated our involvement there. The banking cartels have spoken.
 

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