Car AM radio bill passes House panel

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I dated a logger from south west va. Granted very long time ago. The AM radio was how he knew the work schedule. Same for mine workers. We used it for winter school closings. And Listening to Art Bell Coast to Coast High Desert. Fun times. As for cell phone getting emergency notification that depends in your signals. Might get it in my yard but not down my driveway and never sitting in the dollar general parking lot or in our hospital waiting room. Who knows we might not be able to afford a cell phone, computer with internet. Our town uses the volunteer fire alarm with different sounds for different events, fire call, tornadoes, bomb attack.
 
I suspect if the any of the news reporting mentioned that sports are aired on AM radio the uproar would be different. I suspect most of the pampered arm chair quarterbacks pay hundreds of dollars a month for the paid channels and satellite feeds so they wont care but when driving around in rural areas You will be lucky to find a decent FM signal.
Once the sun starts to set AM radio is filled with a large variety of channels, many from several states away.

NOTE: I don't care much about sports but I used to listen to NASCAR when playing in the hills, and occasionally it allowed me to catch a Michigan/Detroit team if they were playing someone on the western half of the country. I usually did not listen to the entire broadcast but I would check in from time to time.
 
I don't use AM a lot, but here in Iowa our predominant news radio station is AM1040. Yes, it carries conservative talk programming. The gen z's hate 1040. But 1040 also carries Iowa Hawkeye games and it's far and away the best radio station for weather reports. I keep a 15 year old boombox in my kitchen just to be able to get 1040 because there aren't any other AM stations I listen to at home.

Since my job requires a lot of long distance driving I search for AM sports stations when I'm on the go. That's another good reason to keep AM in cars.
 
This is a good and necessary bill. Some folks don't have smart phones, don't have any intention of getting a smart phone, and for news, etc., rely on the signal coverage AM radio provides.
Then why can't they buy themselves an AM radio? Why should their need for one morph into a government mandate that ALL new cars have them?

I require a flashlight and a knife in each of my cars. Should the government mandate that ALL cars have these because I think they are necessary?

Government mandates usually suck. A "good" mandate is quite rare these days. The market should choose this AM radio thing, not the government.
 
I think that the car companies were about to eliminate the AM radio, possibly the FM too in new cars, forcing everyone to go to pay for usage satellite radio. and the bean counters were betting on life-long subscription fees. This would really impact everyone in the the long run. Us mature folks tend to think of car entertainment systems as AM/FM and something else, the corporate types would like to force us to all switch to something else. My cars all have the capability to receive satellite broadcasting, but I refuse to pay the toll.

In a true SHTF event, the satellite wavelengths would be flooded with people trying to make cell phone calls and things would go south quick...
 
Then why can't they buy themselves an AM radio? Why should their need for one morph into a government mandate that ALL new cars have them?

I require a flashlight and a knife in each of my cars. Should the government mandate that ALL cars have these because I think they are necessary?

Government mandates usually suck. A "good" mandate is quite rare these days. The market should choose this AM radio thing, not the government.
Remember when you could tell your neighbor was vacuuming because of the interference on your television?

Virtually every electronic device sold in the US has a small label stating that it conforms to a FCC regulation. That regulation says the device does not emit blah...

The same interference can be emitted by electric cars if they want to cut engineering costs.

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Virtually every electronic device sold in the US has a small label stating that it conforms to a FCC regulation. That regulation says the device does not emit blah...

The same interference can be emitted by electric cars if they want to cut engineering costs.
Do EV's not have to conform to this same FCC regulation? I thought we were talking about automakers not wanting to install AM radios in their cars as the default. Are we actually talking about EV's no longer having to comply with the FCC interference rule(s)? Those are two very different things.
 
There ya go..can you imagine really..cb is bad enough sometimes..
Yes, of course. I have several radios on while I'm working and much of the conversation isn't too great. Granted, HF is much less coarse than CB. (I almost never have a CB on during work for that reason.)

My point in all this was that if you want a feature, add it yourself. Don't demand Congress enact a law that ensures everyone has one whether or not they want it.
 
I had to look that up, never heard of a Toyota Echo. So tiny. No room for a radio.
I can fill that little car with 4 boxes of 50 lbs cat litter a 40 lbs of dog dry food bad
big cat dry food bags ..my bags of grocery + + +

Edit: I forgot to say a 200 lbs great dane can sit on the back seat :p

And very cheap on gas


I had long ago a very nice Ford 150 diesel
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I think that the car companies were about to eliminate the AM radio, possibly the FM too in new cars, forcing everyone to go to pay for usage satellite radio. and the bean counters were betting on life-long subscription fees. This would really impact everyone in the the long run. Us mature folks tend to think of car entertainment systems as AM/FM and something else, the corporate types would like to force us to all switch to something else. My cars all have the capability to receive satellite broadcasting, but I refuse to pay the toll.

In a true SHTF event, the satellite wavelengths would be flooded with people trying to make cell phone calls and things would go south quick...
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In a true SHTF event, the satellite wavelengths would be flooded with people trying to make cell phone calls and things would go south quick...
Phones would not suddenly shift from the cell phone bands to the satellite bands. Nor to the AM radio bands. These are all different frequencies, regulated separately. It's not just one big glob of frequencies that anybody can use for anything, thus interfering with each other.
 
I think my post may have been a little miss stated. If there were no AM/FM radios in the car people would be forced to use either satellite pay radio or they would have to stream music off their phone (least expensive option), that would mean that more people would be on the cell phone all the time, even if they are not making a call and that would help tie up all the bandwidth when people needed to make calls in a SFTF event trying to get information that would normally be broadcast on the EBS AM channels.

I think that @Neb 's post about the static is true too, AM radios are great at picking up static and electric motors are great static makers, it is expensive to try to filter all those devices. I believe that drive behind trying to get rid of AM in cars was a money thing on several fronts.
 
I believe that drive behind trying to get rid of AM in cars was a money thing on several fronts.
Of course it is. Supposedly, people are clamoring for EV's. Those are expensive. More so if the manufacturers have to spend more money trying to filter RFI generated by their electric motors. And supposedly, people are not listening to AM radio as much as they used to. According to some sources, AM radio is used very little (that of course is debatable).

I can see where EV manufacturers might be coming back to the government and saying, "Look, you want us to build EV's that are easier to afford. And at the same time you want us to add costly RFI shielding so AM radios, that few of our customers actually use, will not be affected. What exactly are you expecting us to do?"

They have a valid point. You don't get RFI shielding for electric motors for free. Maybe they could offer AM radios as an option at purchase. Price: $2500. $100 for the radio, and $2400 for the shielding necessary to make it work well in an EV. Some technologies just don't get along well together. If you want an EV powered by electric motors, AND you want an AM radio, well ... you're gonna have to pay for the technology required to make that happen. You don't get to make EVERYONE pay for that by raising prices on ALL vehicles, you have to pay for it YOURSELF.
 
I can fill that little car with 4 boxes of 50 lbs cat litter a 40 lbs of dog dry food bad
big cat dry food bags ..my bags of grocery + + +
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I don't know how. I would have to step outside just to change my mind.

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No matter what yours really looks like, this is what it will forever look like in my mind:

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