Spot on, unfortunately. Make sure you make or already have made deals with local folks for ALL your animal feed! WEFers plan is to takeout our stock as well as dogs. Don’t let them!!
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Spot on, unfortunately. Make sure you make or already have made deals with local folks for ALL your animal feed! WEFers plan is to takeout our stock as well as dogs. Don’t let them!!
What is that all about? I know they have bought up the majority of the world’s grains.
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We picked a couple more buckets of raspberries yesterday, plus we're getting a few bell peppers and tomatoes. Should be able to pick the garlic and onions soon. Its supposed to get down in to the 40's the next few nights. We'll probably have to cover the tomato plants. The garden is looking good this year, just takes a lot of water.
It's about the Chinese people hiding grain from the CCP.
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Transplanted some tomato seedlings and planted a couple zuchini and squash.
Had way too many zinnias in my bean garden. They were too tall and shading the veggies. Have a wheelbarrow full of flowers that will make my neighbors nice bouquets. (If I get time)
There are some seed heads ready too so I am going to harvest those and just throw them and see what happens next Spring.
Had way too many zinnias in my bean garden. They were too tall and shading the veggies. Have a wheelbarrow full of flowers that will make my neighbors nice bouquets. (If I get time)
There are some seed heads ready too so I am going to harvest those and just throw them and see what happens next Spring.
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My neighbor took store bought dried beans, soaked them overnight and planted. The are growing. I had no idea this could be done.
Ive done it. One time did a comparison store bought beans vs seed company beans. Was shocked when the germination rate was HIGHER on the store bought beans!
Pulled out old cucumber plants that are done. Already have new ones up to replace them.
Picking now tomatoes, red beans, yellow squash, cucumbers, peppers, okra, cantaloupe, watermelon, zucchini, blackberries and picked my first fig yesterday. Set out small cabbage for fall cabbage plants, planted fall turnips and mustard greens, fall lettuce (romaine) and some green onions. Sweet potatoes are looking good but waiting to dig until next month. Winter butternut squash are really sizing up.
Canning red beans, elderberry pie filling, elderberry jam, bread and butter pickles, blackberry pie filling, Watermelon rind preserves, roasted tomatoes, tomatoes and okra. Freezing yellow squash, okra, blackberries. Dehydrating yellow squash and okra.
Picking now tomatoes, red beans, yellow squash, cucumbers, peppers, okra, cantaloupe, watermelon, zucchini, blackberries and picked my first fig yesterday. Set out small cabbage for fall cabbage plants, planted fall turnips and mustard greens, fall lettuce (romaine) and some green onions. Sweet potatoes are looking good but waiting to dig until next month. Winter butternut squash are really sizing up.
Canning red beans, elderberry pie filling, elderberry jam, bread and butter pickles, blackberry pie filling, Watermelon rind preserves, roasted tomatoes, tomatoes and okra. Freezing yellow squash, okra, blackberries. Dehydrating yellow squash and okra.
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Busy little bee Diva.
I have worked all day and am exhaused and too tired to shower yet. I know i will think of something else to do that will get me dirty again.
I have worked all day and am exhaused and too tired to shower yet. I know i will think of something else to do that will get me dirty again.
Pinto beans as a young adult, it is the flat/ribbon green bean.
My Father planted store bought black eyed peas in 1960's, white potatoes & slips from sweet potatoes.
I have Ginger growing in two-one gallon pots that the wife found on clearance.
I say Try it, if it does not work stop doing it.
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Ginger, turmeric and garlic from the organic section, grow great and are over half price from the catalogs.
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That's because it was grown organically. "Organic" has to do with how it's grown.
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We picked the garlic a couple days ago and are getting a few tomatoes now. Still getting a lot of raspberries and the blackberries are about a week away, and looks like a bumper crop. The pie cherries are ready to pick, and the apple and plum trees are loaded with fruit and are probably a month away from being ripe. The rabbits are eating the tops of the onions. I'll get a trap set for them today. We have some nice sized watermelon that should be ready in a week or so. The corn is starting to get some ears, might be ready in a couple of weeks.
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I was looking at garden myths site and it was about what is or isn't in bagged garden soil.
The name for most of these products should be "Ground up Wood Product". If you want soil, make your own or dig up some in the w.oods
The name for most of these products should be "Ground up Wood Product". If you want soil, make your own or dig up some in the w.oods
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We mix our soil with the commercial stuff.
I have feed ten worms off about 12 tomatoes plants to hens & that is when I saw the Velociraptors in the seemly harmless chicken!
There are national organic standards set by the USDA. I do not believe the above ruling adheres to that guide line at all. Nor do I believe that the determination of that falls under the perimeter of I am assuming a county DA.
In the State of Tennessee
- Producers or handlers who sell $5000 per year labeled or represented as "organic" must be certified.
Certification Procedure
Producer obtains "Certification Application Packet" from accredited certifying agent of their choice.
Producer pays applicable fees and submits completed application which includes: (1) History of substances applied to the land for the previous three years, (2) Organic products being grown or processed, (3) Organic plan, which includes practices and substances used in production.
Certifying agent reviews application for certification eligibility.
Inspector, assigned by certifying agent, conducts on-site inspection of the applicant's operation.
Certifying agent reviews the information submitted by the applicant and the inspector's report. (If review and inspection show compliance with the requirements, the agent will issue a certificate.)
Certified operations must submit updated organic plan, pay fees, and be re-inspected each year.
USDA or the certifying agent may conduct unannounced inspections at any time to enforce the regulations.
Certifying agents or USDA will conduct residue tests of organic products if there is reason to believe that products have been contaminated with prohibited substances.
Crop Standards
Land will have no prohibited substances for at least three years before harvest of an organic crop.- Use of genetic engineering, ionizing, radiation, and sewage sludge is prohibited.
- Soil fertility will be managed through crop rotations and cover crops, supplemented with animal and crop waste materials and allowed synthetic materials.
- Preference will be given to use of organic seeds, but exceptions can be made under specified conditions.
- Crop pests, weeds and diseases will be controlled primarily through management practices. When these practices are not sufficient, a biological, botanical, or synthetic substance on the approved national list may be used.
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The organic designation only matters if you're selling your crop. In the grocery store organic just means that you'll pay a much higher price for things. I stay away from anything labeled organic.
There are national organic standards set by the USDA. I do not believe the above ruling adheres to that guide line at all. Nor do I believe that the determination of that falls under the perimeter of I am assuming a county DA.
You can believe what you like, I read the Certification for this state.
My blueberries are organic & I have the right to sale them as organic for twenty years now.
Our rule is five years last I read the rules, how do you get to water it down to three years.
You can believe what you like, I read the Certification for this state.
My blueberries are organic & I have the right to sale them as organic for twenty years now.
Our rule is five years last I read the rules, how do you get to water it down to three years.
1. While organic guidelines are Federal most states govern their own state certifications. Having gardened in several different states the enforcement and interpretation greatly differs between states.
"Our rule is five years last I read the rules, how do you get to water it down to three years"
Wow! I simply personally just linked to a state agricultural site in my state giving the guidelines to the state in which I reside. I personally did not water down anything and could really care less what you do with your blueberries. Confrontational much ?
I will make the blanket suggestion to all gardeners to check with your individual state USDA office or local Extension Service on what the requirements are if you are interested in selling or producing organic produce in your individual state. Especially if you are transporting across state lines.
While it is not done often a USDA raid and inspection can lead to more problems than you want to address. Fines and attorneys can get expensive. I personally know a grower that lost their farm from this very mistake.
Just throwing that info out there.
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USDA National Agricultural Marketing Service, Organic Enforcement
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"I will make the blanket suggestion to all gardeners to check with your individual state USDA office or local Extension Service on what the requirements are if you are interested in selling or producing organic produce in your individual state. Especially if you are transporting across state lines."
That what I did & you said I was misinformed in so many words.
You could have been kinder & now I am the bad guy??
That what I did & you said I was misinformed in so many words.
You could have been kinder & now I am the bad guy??
Again for anyone interested in producing and selling certified organic produce take the time to research the restrictions, certification process and requirements within your own state. Do your due diligence and research for your own protection. Regardless of District Attorney rulings in any state that may or may not apply to you. If you say that your produce is organic and sell it as such take the time to complete the certification correctly according to your own individual state. If not the Federal penalties as set by congress are as follows:
Penalties -
(1) Agricultural Marketing Service.
(i) Civil penalty for improper record keeping codified at 7 U.S.C. 136i-1(d), has: A maximum of $1,036 in the case of the first offense, and a minimum of $2,012 in the case of subsequent offenses, except that the penalty will be less than $2,012 if the Secretary determines that the person made a good faith effort to comply.
(ii) Civil penalty for a violation of the unfair conduct rule under the Perishable Agricultural Commodities Act, in lieu of license revocation or suspension, codified at 7 U.S.C. 499b(5), has a maximum of $5,638.
(iii) Civil penalty for violation of the licensing requirements under the Perishable Agricultural Commodities Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 499c(a), has a maximum of $1,800 for each such offense and not more than $449 for each day it continues, or a maximum of $449 for each offense if the Secretary determines the violation was not willful.
(iv) Civil penalty in lieu of license suspension under the Perishable Agricultural Commodities Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 499h(e), has a maximum penalty of $3,599 for each violative transaction or each day the violation continues.
(v) Civil penalty for a violation of the Export Apple Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 586, has a minimum of $163 and a maximum of $16,444.
(vi) Civil penalty for a violation of the Export Grape and Plum Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 596, has a minimum of $314 and a maximum of $31,465.
(vii) Civil penalty for a violation of an order issued by the Secretary under the Agricultural Adjustment Act, reenacted with amendments by the Agricultural Marketing Agreement Act of 1937, codified at 7 U.S.C. 608c(14)(B), has a maximum of $3,147. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
(viii) Civil penalty for failure to file certain reports under the Agricultural Adjustment Act, reenacted by the Agricultural Marketing Agreement Act of 1937, codified at 7 U.S.C. 610(c), has a maximum of $314.
(ix) Civil penalty for a violation of a seed program under the Federal Seed Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 1596(b), has a minimum of $107 and a maximum of $2,146.
(x) Civil penalty for failure to collect any assessment or fee for a violation of the Cotton Research and Promotion Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2112(b), has a maximum of $3,147.
(xi) Civil penalty for failure to pay, collect, or remit any assessment or fee for a violation of a program under the Potato Research and Promotion Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2621(b)(1), has a minimum of $1,411 and a maximum of $13,009.
(xii) Civil penalty for failure to obey a cease and desist order under the Potato Research and Promotion Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2621(b)(3), has a maximum of $1,411. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
(xiii) Civil penalty for failure to pay, collect, or remit any assessment or fee or for a violation of a program under the Egg Research and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2714(b)(1), has a minimum of $1,631 and a maximum of $16,308.
(xiv) Civil penalty for failure to obey a cease and desist order under the Egg Research and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2714(b)(3), has a maximum of $1,631. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
(xv) Civil penalty for failure to remit any assessment or fee or for a violation of a program under the Beef Research and Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2908(a)(2), has a maximum of $12,722.
(xvi) Civil penalty for failure to remit any assessment or for a violation of a program regarding wheat and wheat foods research, codified at 7 U.S.C. 3410(b), has a maximum of $3,147.
(xvii) Civil penalty for failure to pay, collect, or remit any assessment or fee or for a violation of a program under the Floral Research and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4314(b)(1), has a minimum of $1,481 and a maximum of $14,807.
(xviii) Civil penalty for failure to obey a cease and desist order under the Floral Research and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4314(b)(3), has a maximum of $1,481. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
(xix) Civil penalty for violation of an order under the Dairy Promotion Program, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4510(b), has a maximum of $2,737.
(xx) Civil penalty for pay, collect, or remit any assessment or fee or for a violation of the Honey Research, Promotion, and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4610(b)(1), has a minimum of $822 and a maximum of $8,433.
(xxi) Civil penalty for failure to obey a cease and desist order under the Honey Research, Promotion, and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4610(b)(3), has a maximum of $843. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
Further penalties and accurate information can be found at links:
Code of Federal Regulations
USDA National Agricultural Marketing Service, Organic Enforcement
Penalties -
(1) Agricultural Marketing Service.
(i) Civil penalty for improper record keeping codified at 7 U.S.C. 136i-1(d), has: A maximum of $1,036 in the case of the first offense, and a minimum of $2,012 in the case of subsequent offenses, except that the penalty will be less than $2,012 if the Secretary determines that the person made a good faith effort to comply.
(ii) Civil penalty for a violation of the unfair conduct rule under the Perishable Agricultural Commodities Act, in lieu of license revocation or suspension, codified at 7 U.S.C. 499b(5), has a maximum of $5,638.
(iii) Civil penalty for violation of the licensing requirements under the Perishable Agricultural Commodities Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 499c(a), has a maximum of $1,800 for each such offense and not more than $449 for each day it continues, or a maximum of $449 for each offense if the Secretary determines the violation was not willful.
(iv) Civil penalty in lieu of license suspension under the Perishable Agricultural Commodities Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 499h(e), has a maximum penalty of $3,599 for each violative transaction or each day the violation continues.
(v) Civil penalty for a violation of the Export Apple Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 586, has a minimum of $163 and a maximum of $16,444.
(vi) Civil penalty for a violation of the Export Grape and Plum Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 596, has a minimum of $314 and a maximum of $31,465.
(vii) Civil penalty for a violation of an order issued by the Secretary under the Agricultural Adjustment Act, reenacted with amendments by the Agricultural Marketing Agreement Act of 1937, codified at 7 U.S.C. 608c(14)(B), has a maximum of $3,147. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
(viii) Civil penalty for failure to file certain reports under the Agricultural Adjustment Act, reenacted by the Agricultural Marketing Agreement Act of 1937, codified at 7 U.S.C. 610(c), has a maximum of $314.
(ix) Civil penalty for a violation of a seed program under the Federal Seed Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 1596(b), has a minimum of $107 and a maximum of $2,146.
(x) Civil penalty for failure to collect any assessment or fee for a violation of the Cotton Research and Promotion Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2112(b), has a maximum of $3,147.
(xi) Civil penalty for failure to pay, collect, or remit any assessment or fee for a violation of a program under the Potato Research and Promotion Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2621(b)(1), has a minimum of $1,411 and a maximum of $13,009.
(xii) Civil penalty for failure to obey a cease and desist order under the Potato Research and Promotion Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2621(b)(3), has a maximum of $1,411. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
(xiii) Civil penalty for failure to pay, collect, or remit any assessment or fee or for a violation of a program under the Egg Research and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2714(b)(1), has a minimum of $1,631 and a maximum of $16,308.
(xiv) Civil penalty for failure to obey a cease and desist order under the Egg Research and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2714(b)(3), has a maximum of $1,631. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
(xv) Civil penalty for failure to remit any assessment or fee or for a violation of a program under the Beef Research and Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 2908(a)(2), has a maximum of $12,722.
(xvi) Civil penalty for failure to remit any assessment or for a violation of a program regarding wheat and wheat foods research, codified at 7 U.S.C. 3410(b), has a maximum of $3,147.
(xvii) Civil penalty for failure to pay, collect, or remit any assessment or fee or for a violation of a program under the Floral Research and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4314(b)(1), has a minimum of $1,481 and a maximum of $14,807.
(xviii) Civil penalty for failure to obey a cease and desist order under the Floral Research and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4314(b)(3), has a maximum of $1,481. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
(xix) Civil penalty for violation of an order under the Dairy Promotion Program, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4510(b), has a maximum of $2,737.
(xx) Civil penalty for pay, collect, or remit any assessment or fee or for a violation of the Honey Research, Promotion, and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4610(b)(1), has a minimum of $822 and a maximum of $8,433.
(xxi) Civil penalty for failure to obey a cease and desist order under the Honey Research, Promotion, and Consumer Information Act, codified at 7 U.S.C. 4610(b)(3), has a maximum of $843. Each day the violation continues is a separate violation.
Further penalties and accurate information can be found at links:
Code of Federal Regulations
USDA National Agricultural Marketing Service, Organic Enforcement
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Everything i raise and grow here is "organic". It doesn't matter to me because I would never get a government designation for anything I sell. The people that buy my beef know how it was raised.
If you give your cows or horses antibiotics, and then use their natural fertilizer, it’s not organic In authorities minds.
I agree with AD- it’s a scam to get more $$$. I avoid the labeled organic most of the time.
I have been forced to buy hard boiled organic eggs at a big box store. They go bad well before their expiration date. Regular ones don’t. Thats why they are on the business center list.
I agree with AD- it’s a scam to get more $$$. I avoid the labeled organic most of the time.
I have been forced to buy hard boiled organic eggs at a big box store. They go bad well before their expiration date. Regular ones don’t. Thats why they are on the business center list.
I agree with you EW. I do not buy organic anything but simply strive to produce my own. The whole certification process requirement is vague and the restrictions ridiculous in many cases. All so people can charge more for their produce. There are so many instances of things being labeled organic that are not that it truly is a rip off in many instances.
For me personally I feel like dealing with the USDA is like dealing with the IRS. Just open your checkbook and start adding zeroes.
However if you are going to charge more for your produce because it is organic then you are going to have to jump through the USDA's hoops and whistles to do so. Otherwise you are just ripping the consumer off.
That being said I am sure the USDA enjoys collecting all those fines from people that don't do their homework.
EXACTLY!! I sold organic produce off my farm for years and my customers did not need a certification sticker to buy it. They came back year after year because I sold a good product for a fair price. They could walk through my fields or visit any time if they wanted to see how it was grown.
You sound like Joel Salatin pasture grown meats & vegetables. I love that guy, he is down to earth & up to date all at the same time.
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