Gardening 2023

[EastenerWesterner]

According to David Dubyne from Adapt 2030, there isn’t any human global warming…as we all already figured out. But there is additional cooling because of the 3 recent volcanic eruptions. His latest video shows what is going on. He uses NOA and NASA data to tell the story of what is happening and what to expect. Bottom line is it will be cooler. Our crops won’t produce as well for the next 18 months.

Ireland is confused as to why they are getting snow in May.

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This map of the flow of the volcanic eruptions make it clear what is happening.

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Left picture shows the cold in Blue. Right picture shows the particles in the upper atmosphere in yellow and deep orange/red.


Another video showed the atmospheric particles in our country. Right at the same locations that Ryan Hall Y’all reported an extensive cold spell . He says it might last the entire month of May!!

It’s kinda why I compared it to western NY. If you don’t like the weather, wait 5 minutes.
Yesterday, rainy cold in southern NoCal. Sunny and warm in far north Cal. Should have been other way around on a normal day.
Every politician says it’s an extreme caused by climate change. Extreme Drought is caused by climate change. Extreme wildfire is caused by climate change. And if you don’t believe them, you are the extremist.

I say its the weather and I extremely don’t listen to morons like them.

 

[Mountain trapper]

We had a good rain yesterday and it rained again this morning. I got up early this morning and started a fire in the wood stove. Looks like more rain coming later today. The rain could turn to snow for the next couple of days too. I was planning on cutting firewood and burning last years slash pile today. But no, the wife wants to go to a yard sale instead, its 50 miles south of us. She said I can burn when we get home. Silly woman. We already have enough junk around here.

 

[user 7704]

I am not having good luck with the onions seeds I started. It was my first try with seeds and I wanted to start harvesting seeds and being self sustainable as far as onions go. The sets are doing good though. Need more research.

The prolonged Christmas freeze wrecked my blackberries as well as my strawberries.

 

[GaRp58]

It has a lot of uses. If you crush the seeds it make a fish poison.

It is not really a poison in the normal way of thinking. The chemicals just create a laming of the gills and takes away the capability of getting oxygen and they actually just "drown"...

 

[user 7704]

I set out some peppers and tomatoes today. Our evening temps are getting into high 50s and 60s. I only planted the largest ones.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

You brave girl! I transplanted my pepper and tomato starts, but haven’t put any outside the greenhouse yet. We did finish the prep for the gardens today. Yay!

I bought an arched trellis for over the stone steps going down to the water. We got that put together and in the ground today! Am going to grow various squash on it! It is a wide trellis at 7 feet wide! And is 8 feet high!

 

[user 7704]

You brave girl! I transplanted my pepper and tomato starts, but haven’t put any outside the greenhouse yet. We did finish the prep for the gardens today. Yay!

I bought an arched trellis for over the stone steps going down to the water. We got that put together and in the ground today! Am going to grow various squash on it! It is a wide trellis at 7 feet wide! And is 8 feet high!

Sounds great

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

WOW! Did not realize so few grow food.

Does this forewarn us on how horribly bad it is going to get when the stores no longer have food…or affordable food?

 

[Survivor_316]

WOW! Did not realize so few grow food.


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Does this forewarn us on how horribly bad it is going to get when the stores no longer have food…or affordable food?

Wow. And the bad thing is, most of us who do still don't grow everything we need. Even most farmers I know specialize in something.

 

[Psalm7]

I got Our garden out early April this year . It got near freezing a couple times but everything is growing well . Except for the sweet potatoes . I think the soil is a little to rich for them . I cleaned out the chicken house and scattered it on the garden back in March before I tilled .

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

It is just now coming into sweet potato planting time. They require a soil temperature not to go lower than 60F. They don’t grow unless the temps are very warm, as in the 80s and up. If the chicken poo hadn’t composted enough, then it burnt up the potato slips. Use rabbit poo. It is useful the minute it is available and never burns plants.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

This is a great idea for anyone wanting to build a hoop house to extend your growing season and/or protect your crops from bugs! Would be very inexpensive to build. Look for used cattle panels at farm auctions and on places like fb.

These cattle panels make a 10’ wide by 8’ high tunnel. You need a few to get a good length as they are 50” deep.

 

[Mountain trapper]

That's a good idea for using the livestock panels GP. We use a couple panels cut in half for growing beans and cucumbers on. I have plans to nail some panels between posts for the grape vines to grow on. I had wire between the post but the snow crushes the plants and pulls the posts out.
Right now it's so wet that we can't even walk in the garden.

 

[user 7704]

Bought some nasturtium seeds today., and Cyprus vine, and onion, and you get the idea. I found lots of seeds.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

That's a good idea for using the livestock panels GP. We use a couple panels cut in half for growing beans and cucumbers on. I have plans to nail some panels between posts for the grape vines to grow on. I had wire between the post but the snow crushes the plants and pulls the posts out.
Right now it's so wet that we can't even walk in the garden.

Figures you have cattle panels! If you build a hoop house, be sure and put those foamy pipe covers over the ends or even swimming “noodles”…which are dirt cheap. It will keep your cover from getting holes in it.

 

[Mountain trapper]

We've had great weather here with highs in the upper 60's and lows in the 40's. The wife is going to start planting in the raised beds today. We may get the concord grape plants in the ground too.

Looks like 1 cherry and 1 apple tree didn't make it through the winter, the rest of the orchard is looking good. We bought 2 apple, 1 peach, 1 cherry and 1 plum tree. Might start planting them in the next couple of days. The asparagus is coming up nicely and some herbs are too.

We're getting a nice pile of garden debris built up that I'll need to burn soon.

The yellow jackets and hornets are out now. I need to mix up some poison for them. I bought some Onslaught that I'll mix with tuna fish catfood. I'll put the mixture in plastic bottles where the yellow jackets can get to it and birds can't. They take it back to the nest and kills the entire nest, or its supposed to.

 

[user 7704]

Due to rain and Mother's Day, I haven't been in the main garden for 3 days. Smart weed is everywhere. I hope I can get a good day to clean up the mess.

It looks like rain now, so it will probably be too wet. The grass is getting pretty high too.

 

[Survivor_316]

I have been working my tail off and I'm exhausted. This garden may be too big for us. My kids will skip their schoolwork tomorrow to help me all day, whuch will be sorely needed. My husband is still outside working in the dark on some things.

 

[Cindyd]

I put up six quarts of fresh green beans from our garden yesterday..before going to mothers for cook out..I vacuum sealed them in quart size instead of canning..next round I'm canning.

We use the cattle panels for peas n green beans ...from one raised garden bed to another..they are great for those veggies. We do also have a green house made with cattle panels...but the pool noodle idea I hadn't thought about..

 

[user 7704]

I put up six quarts of fresh green beans from our garden yesterday..before going to mothers for cook out..I vacuum sealed them in quart size instead of canning..next round I'm canning.

We use the cattle panels for peas n green beans ...from one raised garden bed to another..they are great for those veggies. We do also have a green house made with cattle panels...but the pool noodle idea I hadn't thought about..

My beans are about 6 inches high. Way to early for us to have ready to eat. I'm hoping to have somebeans by June 18th and the reunion

 

[user 7704]

I watched a video this morning about Cleavers. I always thought of them as stick weeds that leave balls on your clothes and pets.

Turns out they are very healthy and far as blood cleansing and cleaning kidneys and water paths in body. Helpsmget ridnof bruising. Other benefits too.

Last week I ripped out so many and tossed them because I didn't know.

 

[bill harrell]

Would some of you mountain folk up in Tennessee and Kentucky post something about tobacco growing. I tried growing it once, but the crap I grew was not fit for human consumption. It was downright humbling to even ever mention it in public again.

 

[Survivor_316]

Would some of you mountain folk up in Tennessee and Kentucky post something about tobacco growing. I tried growing it once, but the crap I grew was not fit for human consumption. It was downright humbling to even ever mention it in public again.

This would be a great lesson.

 

[user 7704]

My grandmother grew tobacco, but not in the mountains. She was in Middle Kentucky. I have helped strip lots of tobacco starting when I was very young. Don't know any secrets

 

[GaRp58]

Our sweetpeas are ready to start harvesting. They were planted in Nov. and are 2 ft. tall now. We can start picking small onions for breakfast also. Other things are coming along well but we have had rain for the last 5 days and it is too wet to do anything in the garden.
Helenas father grew tobacco and she remembers picking, cutting, hanging to dry and such but the secrets to grow it...she was too young. We have wild tobacco everywhere here from the old "cultivated" tobacco fields which are no longer allowed to be tilled and harvest tobacco. The wild tobacco is considered poisonous for some reason which the locals cannot explain.
Check the internet and you tube for more info.

 

[user 7704]

Do any of you grow and process dried beans? Great Northern or Pinto type? I grow green beans, but have never tried dried.

Comments please.

 

[DrHenley]

We have wild tobacco everywhere here from the old "cultivated" tobacco fields which are no longer allowed to be tilled and harvest tobacco. The wild tobacco is considered poisonous for some reason which the locals cannot explain.

When I looked up "wild tobacco" I came up with this. What I find interesting is that Perique tobacco, grown in Louisiana and processed using a Native American process, sounds a lot like it. I have smoked straight Perique and it knocked my on my butt. It is so strong that it is nearly always blended with other tobacco.

Nicotiana rustica, commonly known as Aztec tobacco or strong tobacco, is a rainforest plant in the family Solanaceae. It is a very potent variety of tobacco, containing up to nine times more nicotine than common species of Nicotiana such as Nicotiana tabacum (common tobacco).More specifically, N. rustica leaves have a nicotine content as high as 9%, whereas N. tabacum leaves contain about 1 to 3%. The high concentration of nicotine in its leaves makes it useful for producing pesticides, and it has a wide variety of uses specific to cultures around the world. However, N. rustica is no longer cultivated in its native North America, (except in small quantities by certain Native American tribes) as N. tabacum has replaced it.

Russia

In Russia, N. rustica is called makhorka (маxорка).
Historically, makhorka was smoked mainly by the lower classes. N. rustica is a hardy plant and can be grown in most of Russia (as opposed to N. virginiana which requires a warm climate), it was more readily and cheaply available, and did not depend on transport in a country with an underdeveloped road network and climatic portage problems. This remained the case until ordinary tobacco became widely available in the 20th century. During Soviet times, rustic tobacco was an important industrial crop of agriculture. In those times, dozens of varieties were bred, some of them considered equal in quality to N. virginiana. In modern times, makhorka is still sometimes smoked by peasants and farmers due to its high availability and being almost free for them.

Vietnam

The plant is called Thuốc lào in Vietnam, and is most commonly smoked after a meal on a full stomach to "aid indigestion", or along with green tea or local beer (most commonly the cheap bia hơi). A "rít" of thuốc lào is followed by a flood of nicotine to the bloodstream inducing strong dizziness that lasts several seconds. Heavy cigarette smokers have had trouble with the intense volume of smoke and the high nicotine content; side effects include nausea and vomiting.

 

[user 7704]

Do any of you grow and process dried beans? Great Northern or Pinto type? I grow green beans, but have never tried dried.

Comments please.

I was reading that they won't fill pod in Temps over 85°

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

Do any of you grow and process dried beans? Great Northern or Pinto type? I grow green beans, but have never tried dried.

Comments please.

I’ve grown pinto and Northern beans, as well a some others for storage. Just leave them in the garden on your trellis until after the first frost. Then clip them off and lay out on a flat sheet. I use old cookie sheets in the sun for a week or two in my greenhouse. Then I store them in mason jars. Easy peasy! Some people dehydrate them, but why take the extra effort and use electric?

 

[Survivor_316]

Wr grow lots of dried- mainly black turtle but pinto, christmas, and lima, too. I don't think I have ever had a problem with them filling the pods though I do get some different fungal problems if it is too wet. I like to plant densely, but with beans, I can't. A softer mulch helps to keep rain from splashing the leaves, but I just mulch everything the same, so that's probably not helpful, either.

We grow runner beans for decorative/edible out front and they definitely don't produce in hot weather, though. They're the ones with the pretty blooms and the big, fat beans. They're good in chili.