I think I failed my "SOCIAL DETERMINANTS of HEALTH TEST".

[Sourdough]

There was a page and half of (so called) health questions (or so they desire for me to believe). I am guessing nearly all of you have answered this questionnaire many-many times.

Maybe someone can post the questions:

Can we discuss this..??

https://www.bing.com/search?q=socia...43b6a4e799d3b597ab8ae83df&clckatsg=1&hsmssg=0

 

[Sourdough]

Why does my new to me doctor require this information: SAMPLE QUESTIONS.

In the last 12 months.........

Has anyone hurt your feelings??

Has anyone talked "DOWN" to you??

Has anyone Yelled at you??

Do you have any education??

 

[Sourdough]

In what "reality" does the people fabricating this long list of questions......live in...??

 

[Sourdough]

At the bottom of the list of questions you swear that your answers are true and accurate. Then you Sign and fill in date.

 

[Alaskajohn]

Just say no.

Wise advice from Nancy.

 

[Sourdough]

Where does this information go..??? It some place mentioned "CDC". But I'll bet it is accessible to many way-way far outside the medical community.

While at the new to me doctor, he mentioned past PSA test "results" over several years. I asked where he got that information, as I had only given, results from a PSA test a month ago. He just pointed at the computer and said, "It is here". I did not push my question further.

 

[Sourdough]

What if this information is used to set your "Credit Score". Or determine your qualification for some employment.

 

[Amish Heart]

I wouldn't answer questions like that. Bad enough they ask if you feel safe and home and if you want to hurt yourself.

 

[Neb]

What if this information is used to set your "Credit Score". Or determine your qualification for some employment.

I suspect not.

Those questions are focused at finding abusive situations.

Ben

 

[Amish Heart]

Or maybe if you've lost it and need help with day to day living

 

[Sourdough]

Or maybe if you've lost it and need help with day to day living

Why does my Urologist need that information.....??? Let's say hypothetically someone has "lost it". Does my Urologist make that determination, who does he notify to fix "social" problems.

I am quite surprised there is not a question about firearms in your house/home/dwelling. Is there a Social Determinants Judge and jury. Is there a police force charged with making an in-home assessment, what powers do they have....???

 

[Amish Heart]

Depends on your state, I suppose. They mostly save the firearms question for the kids. They speak to the young teens without a parent in the room and ask if there's guns in the house.
I convinced my mom to go to assisted living from living in her own apartment because of what I was seeing....memory issues, constant falling (where I'd have to take her in for stitches), not eating properly and losing weight too fast. She did a whole lot better in assisted living, and still had her own apartment, but had someone checking on her constantly and making her meals and doing the laundry and cleaning.
So I'm going to guess that a doc is asking questions along those lines to determine memory, falls, keeping up with health, and if it appears you aren't taking care of yourself, then they call Senior Services.

 

[Amish Heart]

Husband had some new questions asked to him recently, and he asked why, and the nurse said it's for Medicare and they need to ask each year. About 30 questions. I remember one was asking if you knew your health condition. Another one asked you to rate your health against someone your same age...is it better, worse
And of course the regular are you depressed, want to hurt yourself, do you fall

 

[Mountain trapper]

Since I turned 65 my doctor gives me some stupid questioner to fill out. My standard response is to answer NO on everything. Of course they like to put in trick questions where it takes a YES answer to say no. Some of the questions are math questions or story problems. The doc explained that it's to check for old timers mental problems.

 

[Amish Heart]

I've sat with mom twice for her Senior Services dementia test, and I know the questions. Like what day is it, who is the President, what city are you in, draw the face of a clock

 

[Sourdough]

I suspect not.

Those questions are focused at finding abusive situations.

Ben

And yet...........Getting a new card (even applying for a new card) or canceling a credit card effects your credit score. As does if you move to a different location. I think your driving record also effects your credit score. Likely much other information. A list of other things:

• 1. Utility Bills
• 2. Requests for a Credit Limit Increase
• 3. Business Credit Cards
• 4. Cosigned Loans
• 5. Car Leases
• 6. Having Little Credit Diversity
• 7. Ignoring Your Credit Report

 

[elkhound]

Why does my new to me doctor require this information: SAMPLE QUESTIONS.

In the last 12 months.........

Has anyone hurt your feelings?? BIDEN

Has anyone talked "DOWN" to you?? BIDEN

Has anyone Yelled at you?? BIDEN

Do you have any education?? BIDEN SAID I WAS STUPID

 

[elkhound]

Where does this information go..??? It some place mentioned "CDC". But I'll bet it is accessible to many way-way far outside the medical community.

While at the new to me doctor, he mentioned past PSA test "results" over several years. I asked where he got that information, as I had only given, results from a PSA test a month ago. He just pointed at the computer and said, "It is here". I did not push my question further.

If they are a connected medical group they see it all....primary care to specialists

 

[teeceetx]

All attempts to pigeon hole people.

I remain convinced I am far more intelligent than the doctors, sociologists, and psychologists that spend so much time creating all these questions.

 

[elkhound]

when i had my bad wreak 30some years ago they did ask me about my religious preference......instantly even though i was hurt i asked why and what are my options...i didnt want to answer but they forced me sorta...they asked why so hesitant and i said because that will be a record forever and what if 30 years from now the nazis are in charge and round up christians for the chambers here...their jaws dropped open !!

 

[UserNameTaken]

Just give them the answers they want to hear. Unless you want to go into the "home."

"Do you have any education?" I'd feel obligated to answer, "No, I can't read either."

The one I hate is, "list prior surgeries and illnesses... and they give you one line to list them on."

Seriously? I'm 70 years old, it's a miricle I'm still here. My surgeries and medical records fill a file box.

As for guns, the answer is: "Guns are bad, I don't believe in guns, I would never allow one in my house." I'm doubly screwed, my surgeon belongs to my gun club... and I bring him a box of ammo every so often, like how other patients bring cookies.

 

[Magus]

Your doctor is a fluffy, new-age fruit loop that smokes granola and wears Hawaiian Moo Moos.

 

[Neb]

Your doctor is a fluffy, new-age fruit loop that smokes granola and wears Hawaiian Moo Moos.

Don't knock the moo moos.

Bib overalls are men's moo moos.

Ben

 

[Binky]

Why does my Urologist need that information.....??? Let's say hypothetically someone has "lost it". Does my Urologist make that determination, who does he notify to fix "social" problems.

A urinary tract infection isn't a social problem but if a UTI is serious enough and/or goes undetected long enough it can cause memory loss, delirium and dementia, especially in older people. If dementia is suspected a urologist can make the determination about whether or not the dementia and associated mental problems is reversible due to proper treatment of the UTI.

If the patient does not have a UTI then that can be ruled out as a cause of the suspected dementia. Then the patient gets referred to some other medical practitioner whose field of expertise lies in mental health issues and their causes.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Sure. They can always come with good sounding reasons for these stupid tests. Depending on the test I either answer NO to everything or refuse.

 

[Sourdough]

A urinary tract infection isn't a social problem but if a UTI is serious enough and/or goes undetected long enough it can cause memory loss, delirium and dementia, especially in older people. If dementia is suspected a urologist can make the determination about whether or not the dementia and associated mental problems is reversible due to proper treatment of the UTI.

If the patient does not have a UTI then that can be ruled out as a cause of the suspected dementia. Then the patient gets referred to some other medical practitioner whose field of expertise lies in mental health issues and their causes.

You are WINNER. You win the trophy for a post that has zero to do with the original and ongoing point of this thread.

 

[Sourdough]

My curiosity has me trying to understand why you posted that reply. I am not trying to be disrespectful; I am just confused.

A urinary tract infection isn't a social problem but if a UTI is serious enough and/or goes undetected long enough it can cause memory loss, delirium and dementia, especially in older people. If dementia is suspected a urologist can make the determination about whether or not the dementia and associated mental problems is reversible due to proper treatment of the UTI.

If the patient does not have a UTI then that can be ruled out as a cause of the suspected dementia. Then the patient gets referred to some other medical practitioner whose field of expertise lies in mental health issues and their causes.

 

[elkhound]

one question a guy a few years ago got asked...he had young children...was did they have electricity !!

thats a wtf right there!!

 

[Binky]

My curiosity has me trying to understand why you posted that reply. I am not trying to be disrespectful; I am just confused.

Because you asked:

Sourdough said:
Why does my Urologist need that information.....??? Let's say hypothetically someone has "lost it". Does my Urologist make that determination, who does he notify to fix "social" problems.

I was confirming that yes, your urologist CAN make that determination and refer you to somebody else.

Don't be concerned Sourdough, I didn't take offense to your previous comment and I don't think you meant to be disrespectful. I know what you are like and I can make like a duck with water running off its back when you make knee-jerk responses. I like you and think you're a hoot and I don't think you're any more demented today than I sometimes thought you were 17 years ago when you always found my posts confusing to you back then too.

 

[Alaskajohn]

Why are providers asking about social determinants of health? There is leftist movement and this movement has impacted healthcare policy on the national level. This line of thinking feels that overall healthcare of Americans can be improved by improving social conditions. Don’t ask me to defend the logic as I can’t. It’s BS.

Medicaid in general is highly regulated and influence by national level healthcare policy. When the person who was allegedly elected president by the last name of Biden took office, he required the bureaucrats running the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services to require states to collect and report aggregate data on Medicaid recipients “social determinants of health.” In order for states to pull down their Medicaid match, states had to comply. Certain data is reported by your provider to the states and then it is aggregated and reported to the feds. I am not sure how this works for Medicare. The Feds are harder on states than they are on themselves and typically force states to do things that they don’t hold themselves to. Private insurances often encourages providers to collect and report this aggregate data, and some states may require private insurances to do so. All in the name of population health BS. Alaska does not require this of any of the private insurances doing business in AK.

Healthcare providers are mandated reporters if the suspect an individual is at risk of abuse or harm. Criteria of what these conditions are will vary by state. So what you tell your provider is not without risk since they are obligated to report certain things. This reporting is different than the data discussed above, and providers report this to state agencies typically named Child Protective Services or Adult Protective Services. Some of these questions, depending on how one answers them could trigger a mandatory report.

Bottom line, be very careful what you tell your provider.

I say no, or Not Applicable on just about every BS question.