"IF" You were "Team Leader-Coordinator" of sleeper cells in America.

[Sourdough]

This thread is non-political. It just looks for prepping and planning of Sleeper Cell. Assume the sleeper cells are non-political. Just hired personnel to do a job. What decisions would you have made......recently...???

Would it be prudent to operate in a massive population city. Not looking for what targets would be. Just management of a cell that you are responsible for. How has planning changed in last 10 or 15 years..??

How has execution of planned projects changed in the last 10 or 15 years.

I'll make this a fundamental as I can. You are team leader of a foreign sleeper cell. you have just been advised your cell will go hot in 48 hours or less. What needs to be done by you or your team to be 100% ready. You need not think about targets, you will be informed of targets by your home country.

Yes, I am aware that most of my threads require thinking. Yes, I know some hate thinking.

 

[d_marsh]

To complete this exercise I would need a mission objective, a list of available resources, a list of compromised assets and other details. If I am an embedded or nonembedded sleeper agent I would have been placed in a specific place, to acquire a specific job or standing, and to develop specific relationships or assets. All of that must be known to determine how I would act in the 24-48 hours leading up to the mission op.

 

[Jen]

I have never thought about how I would run a sleeper cell. I do think that those cells are probably disorganized and not really run at all. I don't think we are at risk from attack by sleeper cells in general.

Groups of them, like Antifa, might do some looting or burning in large blue cities, but that in itself is a disorganized mess.

I may be totally wrong but I don't think sleeper cells are organized, and if they were a while back, by now it's people have probably become disinterested for lack of .... work to do.

 

[Sourdough]

Here is a hypothetical example of something a team leader might want to do.

Review what prescription medications each member is taking. Use that information along with recent blood test results to decide what each person is best suited to perform. Or those that need unique assignment.

Inform everyone NO Alcohol consumption while on "stand-by" status.

 

[Sourdough]

I don't think we are at risk from attack by sleeper cells in general.

The Govenor of Texas in the last 4 days signed (3) Three executive orders reference this.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gov-abbott-targets-ccp-infiltration-texas

"Executive Order No. GA-49 directs the Texas Division of Emergency Management and the Public Utility Commission of Texas to prepare for any potential cyberattacks aimed at the state’s critical infrastructure.

Under Abbott’s order, the two agencies will create a task force to study potential vulnerabilities within government systems and critical infrastructure, run response simulations to cyberattacks, and put together a committee of state agencies to “simulate a restart of Texas’ electric grid in the event of a foreign attack,” according to a Wednesday statement.

“China has made it clear that they can—and will—target and attack America’s critical infrastructure,” Abbott said in the statement. “Texas will continue to protect our critical infrastructure to ensure the safety of Texans from potential threats by the Chinese Communist Party or any hostile foreign government.”

The order highlighted Volt Typhoon, one of China’s state-sponsored threat groups, and how it had targeted communications, energy, transportation, water, and wastewater systems in the United States and its territories.

Volt Typhoon, which was dismantled by a multi-agency operation in January, had maintained “access and footholds within some victim IT environments for at least five years,” the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency said in February.

The order also cited FBI Director Christopher Wray’s warnings at the Vanderbilt Summit in Nashville in April, when he said that China “has made it clear that it considers every sector that makes our society run as fair game in its bid to dominate on the world stage.”

 

[Snowman]

“Our No. 1 priority is to protect Texans, including from espionage threats from the Chinese Communist Party and its proxies,” said Governor Abbott. “The Federal Bureau of Investigation reported that the Chinese government has actively targeted local and state officials as part of their strategy to undermine the national security of the United States. Hardening our state government is critical to protect Texans from hostile foreign actors who may attempt to undermine the safety and security of Texas and the nation. With this Executive Order, Texas will safeguard our critical infrastructure and information from threats posed by the Chinese Communist Party.”

https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/press/EO-GA-48_Hardening_State_Government_FINAL_11-19-2024.pdf

Just Read the 1st Paragraph...!!!

 

[Snowman]

On Monday, Abbott signed Executive Order No. GA-47 "relating to the prevention of harassment or coercion of Texans by foreign adversaries." This was followed on Tuesday by Executive Orders GA-48 and GA-49, which relate to the "hardening of state government" and the "protection of critical infrastructure," respectively. According to the accompanying statements all three orders were designed to counter the threat from the Chinese Communist Party, the ruling power in Beijing.

https://www.newsweek.com/greg-abbott-order-targets-chinese-influence-texas-1988975

 

[Weedygarden]

I don't think we are at risk from attack by sleeper cells in general.

I do. I don't think we have anything going on that is imminent now, but I believe that there are groups that are organizing and organized now. An example of a sleeper cell could be working out of local mosques. They have 5 prayer meetings a day. That is a lot of time to get into people's heads and to get them organized. This happens to be the people that I think we need to be most aware of. Maybe that is my bias.

 

[Amish Heart]

I agree. I know there are sleeper cells here. An old friend in Portland had a nephew in one. He was investigated. It was a muslim thing. Ended up being arrested and I don't know what happened to him.

 

[OldSchool]

This thread is non-political. It just looks for prepping and planning of Sleeper Cell. Assume the sleeper cells are non-political. Just hired personnel to do a job. What decisions would you have made......recently...???
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Yes, I am aware that most of my threads require thinking. Yes, I know some hate thinking.

Your premises is flawed. Sleeper cells are religion based, and also politically based, and enemy's of the US.

It's scary to think they could be activated to any effectiveness, but it possible. Still, and assuming that's true, I do nothing different in my daily life. Being vigilant of the fact is all I can do.

 

[Sourdough]

Your premises is flawed. Sleeper cells are religion based, and also politically based, and enemy's of the US.

For the purpose of this thread The Sleeper Cells beliefs are not important. Only the administration/management is what I am looking for.

 

[OldSchool]

For the purpose of this thread The Sleeper Cells beliefs are not important. Only the administration/management is what I am looking for.

I get what you're saying, but maybe you should be looking, or wondering, about the actions of those being commanded.

By nature I'm not an administrator, or a commander.... I'm one of the worker-bees, but I have morals. It's a huge prayer to hope the other workers are of the same ilk, but I pray.

 

[OldSchool]

I guess I'm saying administration/management has no power unless there's someone to follow them, and it's the followers that can pose a real threat.

EDIT: And now I'm bowing-out of your thread for not following the rules.

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

ill post a fairly lengthy reply in a couple of hours.

 

[Caribou]

I’ve seen video of what appears to be Chinese troops being arrested at the border and released into the country, by the brandon administration. Cells will be best used against utilities like power and water. Blowing up pipelines and power lines, dams or bridges, etc. Attacks can be done over the internet but you can do that from anywhere around the world so cells aren’t necessary. What I would do would depend on my assigned target(s). The only thing I would need time for is gathering personnel as all the supplies and equipment would already be prepared.

 

[Snowman]

For the purpose of this thread The Sleeper Cells beliefs are not important. Only the administration/management is what I am looking for.

NOW You are a Catalyst...?!?

 

[Neb]

This thread is non-political. It just looks for prepping and planning of Sleeper Cell. Assume the sleeper cells are non-political. Just hired personnel to do a job. What decisions would you have made......recently...???

Would it be prudent to operate in a massive population city. Not looking for what targets would be. Just management of a cell that you are responsible for. How has planning changed in last 10 or 15 years..??

How has execution of planned projects changed in the last 10 or 15 years.

I'll make this a fundamental as I can. You are team leader of a foreign sleeper cell. you have just been advised your cell will go hot in 48 hours or less. What needs to be done by you or your team to be 100% ready. You need not think about targets, you will be informed of targets by your home country.

Yes, I am aware that most of my threads require thinking. Yes, I know some hate thinking.

Party like it is 1999.

Didn't the 911 hijackers indulge themselves?

Ben

 

[Snowman]

Party like it is 1999.

Didn't the 911 hijackers indulge themselves?

Ben

NOW, That, ^^^ That is a Classic Example...!!!

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

in response to this thread a few questions , #1 Is America truly safe from a CONUS attack. #2 If No Why. If Yes Why. The Enemies Most Dangerous Course of Action used to be required in any op-orders decision process. No one lately in positions of leadership mention this. They choose the path of least resistance. Enemies Most Probable Course of Action. #3 Why is that. Now for the last 40 -60 years US foreign policy has destroyed nations , familys etc. For profit , It was never about Freedom & Democracy. #5 Insert Hazmid Bin-Laden , and many other folks from all over the world put yourself in their shoes. Through the Eyes of the Enemy , what would you do or what wouldnt one be willing to do. Now how long has our Southern Border been wide open?

 

[Sourdough]

EDIT: And now I'm bowing-out of your thread for not following the rules.

It seems to be human nature. Not any big deal.

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

Why are we still doing business with China if they are a threat?

 

[Caribou]

Why are we still doing business with China if they are a threat?

$$$

 

[Sourdough]

The United States government still does business with RUSSIA. A surprisingly significant amount of business. America & Russia are partners in the "Space Station". We purchase a lot of Uranium from Russia, and rare earth minerals.

 

[Aerindel]

The United States government still does business with RUSSIA. A surprisingly significant amount of business. America & Russia are partners in the "Space Station". We purchase a lot of Uranium from Russia, and rare earth minerals.

Unfortunately, ROL still dominates. There are all these things called 'contracts' that we got into, and for some stupid reason, are still honoring.

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

Yep Treason thinly disguised as Prostitution. See Fredric Bastiat for clarification.

$$$

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

Unfortunately, ROL still dominates. There are all these things called 'contracts' that we got into, and for some stupid reason, are still honoring.

See Fredric Bastiat

 

[Tacitus]

I have never thought about how I would run a sleeper cell. I do think that those cells are probably disorganized and not really run at all. I don't think we are at risk from attack by sleeper cells in general.

Groups of them, like Antifa, might do some looting or burning in large blue cities, but that in itself is a disorganized mess.

I may be totally wrong but I don't think sleeper cells are organized, and if they were a while back, by now it's people have probably become disinterested for lack of .... work to do.

I guess I figure many of them could have infiltrated across the Rio Grande in the past few years. Lots of Chinese and central Asians (and others) coming across that border. If I were China, preparing to attack Taiwan, I would want a few hundred Chinese men of military age in the United States to create havoc in the US. If I were Iran trying to assassinate Trump, or ISIS or another fundamentalist group, I'd have people coming across that border...like the 20 hijackers were here for 9/11.

 

[Tacitus]

Why are we still doing business with China if they are a threat?

Because (1) we allow US businesses to do that, and (2) Wall Street puts tremendous pressure on US traded companies to meet quarterly earnings goals, and one of the easier ways to meet those goals is to have things made in China. It's as simple as that. We allow it, and we incentivize it.

Probably not the answer you wanted, since you can still say, "But, why?" To which I must say, perhaps, normalcy bias? We don't really perceive the threat as real until it is hitting us in the face. Basically, we have a lack of imagination, and we assume other people are more like us than they are different from us. But, even if the Chinese have similarities to us, the PRC is very different.

 

[TENNGRIZZ]

Because (1) we allow US businesses to do that, and (2) Wall Street puts tremendous pressure on US traded companies to meet quarterly earnings goals, and one of the easier ways to meet those goals is to have things made in China. It's as simple as that. We allow it, and we incentivize it.

" When a group of men decide on plunder as a way of life they will create for themselves a legal system that justifies it and a moral code that glorifies it. The only way to stop them is by making it too painful for them to continue. " Fredric Bastiat circa 1848 or 1850

 

[Jen]

I do. I don't think we have anything going on that is imminent now, but I believe that there are groups that are organizing and organized now. An example of a sleeper cell could be working out of local mosques. They have 5 prayer meetings a day. That is a lot of time to get into people's heads and to get them organized. This happens to be the people that I think we need to be most aware of. Maybe that is my bias.

If the sleeper cells are all Muslim, then yes to what you've said. But they may be a mix of a lot of things. If there are enough specifically Muslim sleeper cells, then we might have something to worry about.