Is the Food Shortage on Purpose?

[kenv1950]

I just think everything is a mess right now , I just hope we make it through . Something is amiss .
I refuse to get into any political discussions about it . I already have high blood pressure

 

[SLADE]

Should I start gnashing my teeth and ripping my sack cloth?

 

[Amish Heart]

I think some will make it through. But I'm not sure everyone will.

 

[Sourdough]

You only need invest two minutes to grasp this.

IRAN: Digital Food Rationing rolls out using Biometric IDs amid food riots - YouTube

 

[Bacpacker]

eyes to see and ears to hear.

There are at least 2 in this thread that would argue black is white. Never admit to seeing it or hearing it. Even though its out in the open and very obvioys

 

[Sourdough]

What bewilders me is why members go to this "PREPPING" Sub-forum and post Everything is beautiful, everything is going to be more wonderful everyday going forward, and berate those advocating getting serious about being prepared.

 

[Tank-Girl]

I think it's been planned all along by people smarter than our current leaderships who couldn't lead themselves out of a wet paper bag.

Training people to the QR codes, and here selected townships singled out for a gov issued cashless debit card for their social security payments leads to digital currency, leads to social credit scores and digital food rationing.

 

[Haertig]

What bewilders me is why members go to this "PREPPING" Sub-forum and post Everything is beautiful, everything is going to be more wonderful everyday going forward...

I imagine you are talking about me. But as you have seen, I don't post that everything is beautiful. I acknowledge that things are bad. Where we disagree however, is placing the blame. I do not believe, as many here apparently do, that this is because of an entire-Earth coordinated cabal pulling the strings. I believe it is caused by opportunists grabbing onto a bad situation, for their own gain, thereby making it worse. An uncoordinated mess of opportunists, not a coordinated world wide cabal implementing a plan.

By blaming a cabal, a conspiracy, or whatever you want to call it - which would have astronomical odds against being able to have been coordinated world wide - I think that's blaming the wrong boogeyman. And by chasing that false boogeyman and wasting time attacking it, the real boogeymen will continue on unmolested. Also, by suggesting cabals have been planning this for decades or centuries, suggesting that these cabals have been responsible for every war on the planet, many people - right or wrong - are going to associate that with paranoid conspiracy theory nutcase stuff. Which further wastes time addressing the real boogeymen.

That's where we differ in opinions. I don't call that "everything is beautiful". We all agree that a bad situation is happening. In order to get out of the bad situation I think we need to learn how we got into it. This is where chasing implausible theories will just slow down recovery, not help it. FWIW, I find it plausible that there are indeed groups of people, worldwide, that would like a "one government" adoption. Could even be some crazy billionaires in there. But I also believe that these groups are probably small and impotent, not able to create the situation we are seeing today, despite possibly having a few billionaires on their side.

 

[Caribou]

I was referring to the global coordination required.

Does it make sense to you that the US coordinated with Russia coordinated with China coordinated with North Korea coordinated with Botswana coordinated with Ukraine coordinated with Iceland coordinated with Facebook coordinated with Walmart coordinated with the railroads coordinated with the medical community coordinated with NATO coordinated with Wall Street ... to bring this shared self-destruction about?

No, that does not make sense to me. I would question the sanity of anyone who said it made sense to them.

You're a good man and you don't want to believe that there is that much evil in the world. My wife is the same way. It makes it very hard for me to prep with her dragging her feet. She will refuse to see what I see until it is too late, and probably not even when they kill us. Evil people crave power, you don't. My wife doesn't want my vision to be true. I understand, I don't want it to be true either but too many events lead to my conclusions. She is consumed by the normalcy bias.

 

[Amish Heart]

My husband is the same. And that's ok. I know it, and I prep. He does agree with prepping, though, even if it's purely for financial reasons.

 

[Amish Heart]

Oh, hey, forgot to mention that I popped in on my favorite cousin this morning, and her daughter and family that live in the big house on the same property. Brought them lots of vegetable plants. They know my "crazy" and they know my prepping, and I've warned them for years. They do can and save for the following year's harvest, but mostly because they're amish and that's what they do. But the daughter took me aside and said that their son (he's 17) came home from work yesterday and was having a meal. Looked at his mom and said that she needs to go shopping. Big shopping. Bad times are coming. Food will be a problem. She said her jaw dropped and she thought of me. So don't know where a 17 yr old amish boy heard this, but he did.

 

[Caribou]

I imagine you are talking about me. But as you have seen, I don't post that everything is beautiful. I acknowledge that things are bad. Where we disagree however, is placing the blame. I do not believe, as many here apparently do, that this is because of an entire-Earth coordinated cabal pulling the strings. I believe it is caused by opportunists grabbing onto a bad situation, for their own gain, thereby making it worse. An uncoordinated mess of opportunists, not a coordinated world wide cabal implementing a plan.

By blaming a cabal, a conspiracy, or whatever you want to call it - which would have astronomical odds against being able to have been coordinated world wide - I think that's blaming the wrong boogeyman. And by chasing that false boogeyman and wasting time attacking it, the real boogeymen will continue on unmolested. Also, by suggesting cabals have been planning this for decades or centuries, suggesting that these cabals have been responsible for every war on the planet, many people - right or wrong - are going to associate that with paranoid conspiracy theory nutcase stuff. Which further wastes time addressing the real boogeymen.

That's where we differ in opinions. I don't call that "everything is beautiful". We all agree that a bad situation is happening. In order to get out of the bad situation I think we need to learn how we got into it. This is where chasing implausible theories will just slow down recovery, not help it. FWIW, I find it plausible that there are indeed groups of people, worldwide, that would like a "one government" adoption. Could even be some crazy billionaires in there. But I also believe that these groups are probably small and impotent, not able to create the situation we are seeing today, despite possibly having a few billionaires on their side.

One of their better known guides is, "Never let a crisis go to waste." The idea of a global organisation and taking advantage of a crisis are not mutually exclusive.

 

[elkhound]

What bewilders me is why members go to this "PREPPING" Sub-forum and post Everything is beautiful, everything is going to be more wonderful everyday going forward, and berate those advocating getting serious about being prepared.

BFF

 

[elkhound]

all i know is this..food,water,shelter and security daily...just a normal daily life...most men need 2000 calories plus a day to function.

with what c-19 thing has done if you rested on your laurels last bit and didnt keep after it you might have reduced your stocks and its going to cost more to restock if you can restock supplies...ya gotta keep after it no matter what...daily,weekly,monthly or whatever schedule you do.

 

[Magus]

I have been thinking this all along. I have not watched all of this short video by Southern Prepper 1, but he has been someone that I have been a follower of for a long time.

Could it be the "Truckers rebellion" is going better than we've heard? no one is covering it after all? eggs are also used to produce flu virus vaccine.

 

[Sourdough]

She said her jaw dropped and she thought of me. So don't know where a 17 yr old amish boy heard this, but he did.

At some totally unexpected point, it will wash across all of America, that the two years of corona-virus was a huge nothingburger compared to coming events. We hear about shortages, imagine when everyone is buying anything eatable. This will hit a tipping point in social consciousness, and there will be panic.

 

[Tank-Girl]

What bewilders me is why members go to this "PREPPING" Sub-forum and post Everything is beautiful, everything is going to be more wonderful everyday going forward, and berate those advocating getting serious about being prepared.

Because they're trolls and they have nothing better to do with their time.
Better off putting them on ignore because the mods won't do squat about them.

 

[Tank-Girl]

Oh, hey, forgot to mention that I popped in on my favorite cousin this morning, and her daughter and family that live in the big house on the same property. Brought them lots of vegetable plants. They know my "crazy" and they know my prepping, and I've warned them for years. They do can and save for the following year's harvest, but mostly because they're amish and that's what they do. But the daughter took me aside and said that their son (he's 17) came home from work yesterday and was having a meal. Looked at his mom and said that she needs to go shopping. Big shopping. Bad times are coming. Food will be a problem. She said her jaw dropped and she thought of me. So don't know where a 17 yr old amish boy heard this, but he did.

17 year old boys eat like they've got hollow legs and trust me they are VERY aware of food in the same way a Labrador is.
I'd be taking him aside and start teaching him. Looks like he's got a good head on his shoulders and and a constantly hungry belly which will help bring the message home.

 

[Sourdough]

I imagine you are talking about me.

Actually "Supervisor 42" is the one that dismisses any possibility of most negative events happening.

 

[Magus]

We give thee thanks oh Gods for sending us your saints of prep Euel Gibbons and Bradford Angier that we might outlive those who want to control us and we beg mightily for the skills of Kurt Saxon that we might blow up the tunnels leading to their bunkers.
Hey man.

 

[Curmudgeon]

In order to get out of the bad situation I think we need to learn how we got into it.

We got into it by being complacent. Not believing such things could happen. Each little step in the progression folks wrote it off, and the next and the next. We aren't going to get out of it now, our country is broken and beyond repair at this point. I'd like to think otherwise but the complacency is still strong. I remember Bush senior talking about his vision of the new world order back in the early 90's, we did nothing. Along came obama, "we are fundamentally going to change America", again, we did nothing.

This country was formed on the idea that 'We the People' run it, that is no longer the case, we aren't even governed anymore we are ruled over. It's all very disappointing.

 

[Magus]

HEY KIDS! Knock it off before somebody puts an eye out, I'm probably the most immature person here, but JEEZ! We're adults, we came to learn, not act like a bunch of 14 year olds in a game chat room!

 

[Sourdough]

Because they're trolls and they have nothing better to do with their time.
Better off putting them on ignore because the mods won't do squat about them.

On other forums YES. On this forum I think they are telling what true for them. I have friends who have been dear friends for 52 years, we all came to Alaska at the same time. They are smart, educated, successful, and yet they can't see what I see. The tolerate me, they don't belittle me, they just truly can't believe there could be a food shortage.

 

[Haertig]

You're a good man and you don't want to believe that there is that much evil in the world.

That is true. I believe we have many more good people in this world than bad people.

But I'm only 99% sure I'm right, so I still carry a gun wherever I go. Just upgraded to one with a higher capacity too, in case it's actually 98% instead of 99%. It's good to be hopeful, but you gotta be realistic too.

 

[Neb]

We got into it by being complacent. Not believing such things could happen. Each little step in the progression folks wrote it off, and the next and the next. We aren't going to get out of it now, our country is broken and beyond repair at this point. I'd like to think otherwise but the complacency is still strong. I remember Bush senior talking about his vision of the new world order back in the early 90's, we did nothing. Along came obama, "we are fundamentally going to change America", again, we did nothing.

This country was formed on the idea that 'We the People' run it, that is no longer the case, we aren't even governed anymore we are ruled over. It's all very disappointing.

As long as the convention of states movement is alive and well there is still reason to see a path out of the mess.

Additionally the draft Roe vs Wade decision is positive in two ways.

1
It recognizes that the Xth amendment established that only those powers explicitly defined in the constitution belong to the federal government and all others belong to the states ( and the people in the ninth). In short the federal govt is not all powerful.

2
Individual states can authorize infanticide but others can decide otherwise. Previously I could find it in myself to ask God to protect a country that slaughters children in the womb. Now I can pray for the parts that value the gift of life that God shares with us.

I am going to call that 3 silver linings in this dark cloud that we find ourselves under.

And if those worldly glimpse of hope that man is indeed able to govern itself fail, we can see from the precedent of Sodom and Gomorrah that 10 good men is all God requires.

Q
Are there 10 good men today?

Ben

 

[Magus]

What does a "good man" look like? with all the LGBQ trans genderqueer whatever Its hard to tell.
I know gay folks this crap makes sick.

 

[SheepDog]

I am laughing at the two who don't think this is intentional and controlled by a small but very wealthy cabal.
They are the same two who asked why WHO and many nations would give their people a genetic drug they called a vaccine to kill people. It was all just a conspiracy theory.
It turned out it was a poison that was meant to kill off the population.
Since the same people are still in control what do you really expect? The vax failed because some people didn't take it. Well lets shut down what we control. That would be transportation, information, and world economy.

It is not a different theory - just the same one continued.

 

[Haertig]

It turned out it was a poison that was meant to kill off the population.

I'm sure you must have some proof of that claim. Not that anyone expects you to provide it. So I'll keep asking the questions, and you can keep dodging answering them. We have a good little rhythm going here.

When you make an outrageous claim like you do above, the onus is on you to provide supporting information. Since that never seems to happen in your case, that's why you get these questions that you abhor.

"It turned out it was a poison that was meant to kill off the population." Even you must agree that a statement like that requires a little proof before being widely accepted by the general population.

 

[Curmudgeon]

In short the federal govt is not all powerful.

You're exactly right. Problem is they think they are, and we don't call them on it. We allow them to rule over us. We've gone full circle back to complacency.

I write and call and scream at my representatives every chance I get. Problem is for every 1 that does there is a 1000 that don't.

 

[SheepDog]

Even the main stream media is publishing stories across the globe about all the vaccine related deaths are mounting. I thought you would have seen some of it by now.
I believe you have and you just like being discordian or you haven't because you are willfully ignorant.