It's racist to renovate a bar! Who knew?

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VenomJockey

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https://downtrend.com/71superb/brace-for-it-renovating-a-bar-is-racist/

Excerpt: "The word “racism” means absolutely nothing at this point. A bar in Cincinnati is closing for renovations and, wouldn’t you know, people are screaming racism. Is it because this bar is in a gentrified neighborhood? No. Is the bar installing minority detectors at the door? Absolutely not. The reason why people are accusing the bar owner of racism is because the establishment will be closed during a black music festival in the city and people are saying the bar doesn’t want to serve black people during this time."
 
Why would anybody respond to a closed minded, victim racist, finger pointing, a-holes. The bar owner is smart, go about their business, get it done and forget the stupid folks. The left see **** everywhere because they have their heads up their butts. JM2C
 
https://downtrend.com/71superb/brace-for-it-renovating-a-bar-is-racist/

Excerpt: "The word “racism” means absolutely nothing at this point. A bar in Cincinnati is closing for renovations and, wouldn’t you know, people are screaming racism. Is it because this bar is in a gentrified neighborhood? No. Is the bar installing minority detectors at the door? Absolutely not. The reason why people are accusing the bar owner of racism is because the establishment will be closed during a black music festival in the city and people are saying the bar doesn’t want to serve black people during this time."
even if it is correct,,,,a owner can refuse service to anyone they please ,,,,,let those whiners go piss in the wind
 
even if it is correct,,,,a owner can refuse service to anyone they please ,,,,,let those whiners go piss in the wind

Only if they are not a protected species and the owner does not disclose why they refuse service. If they are a protected species, then the crap gets dumped all over the establishment.
 
Only if they are not a protected species and the owner does not disclose why they refuse service. If they are a protected species, then the crap gets dumped all over the establishment.

Not really.

For example, Title VII only refers to EMPLOYMENT.
(and even then, many small businesses are exempt due to size).

For any laws against discriminating your customers, they'd be local, not the Fed. Take the gay wedding cake case. In other states, would have been a non-issue, but their state happened to have such a law on the books, that they violated.

Personally, I say let the free market sort it out, but eh...
 
Not really.

For example, Title VII only refers to EMPLOYMENT.
(and even then, many small businesses are exempt due to size).

For any laws against discriminating your customers, they'd be local, not the Fed. Take the gay wedding cake case. In other states, would have been a non-issue, but their state happened to have such a law on the books, that they violated.

Personally, I say let the free market sort it out, but eh...
Yep, just let free market sort it out.
 
Only if they are not a protected species and the owner does not disclose why they refuse service. If they are a protected species, then the crap gets dumped all over the establishment.
Yes, couldn't possibly get that cake done by that date, we are sooooooo overbooked, the owner is going on vacation,I've come down with malaria, my mother has cancer, etc, and etc, and yadda, yadda. Anyone can play the game.
 
Not really.
For any laws against discriminating your customers, they'd be local, not the Fed. Take the gay wedding cake case. In other states, would have been a non-issue, but their state happened to have such a law on the books, that they violated.
Wrong. Title II applied to "public accommodations" which specifically included hotels, restaurants, movie theaters, etc.
Did not apply in the Gay Wedding case, because nobody was refused access to a public accommodation. The bakery refused to PARTICIPATE in a gay wedding. HUGE difference.

CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964

TITLE II--INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST DISCRIMINATION IN PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION

SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

(b) Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this title if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:

(1) any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence;

(2) any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises, including, but not limited to, any such facility located on the

premises of any retail establishment; or any gasoline station;

(3) any motion picture house, theater, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment; and

(4) any establishment (A)(i) which is physically located within the premises of any establishment otherwise covered by this subsection, or (ii) within the premises of which is physically located any such covered establishment, and (B) which holds itself out as serving patrons of such covered establishment.

(c) The operations of an establishment affect commerce within the meaning of this title if (1) it is one of the establishments described in paragraph (1) of subsection (b); (2) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (2) of subsection (b), it serves or offers to serve interstate travelers or a substantial portion of the food which it serves, or gasoline or other products which it sells, has moved in commerce; (3) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (3) of subsection (b), it customarily presents films, performances, athletic teams, exhibitions, or other sources of entertainment which move in commerce; and (4) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (4) of subsection (b), it is physically located within the premises of, or there is physically located within its premises, an establishment the operations of which affect commerce within the meaning of this subsection. For purposes of this section, "commerce" means travel, trade, traffic, commerce, transportation, or communication among the several States, or between the District of Columbia and any State, or between any foreign country or any territory or possession and any State or the District of Columbia, or between points in the same State but through any other State or the District of Columbia or a foreign country.

(d) Discrimination or segregation by an establishment is supported by State action within the meaning of this title if such discrimination or segregation (1) is carried on under color of any law, statute, ordinance, or regulation; or (2) is carried on under color of any custom or usage required or enforced by officials of the State or political subdivision thereof; or (3) is required by action of the State or political subdivision thereof.

(e) The provisions of this title shall not apply to a private club or other establishment not in fact open to the public, except to the extent that the facilities of such establishment are made available to the customers or patrons of an establishment within the scope of subsection (b).
 
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I simply go with "I am having a bad day and I think you are the cause, no service". Sign in my store --- I reserve the right to refuse service for any reason or no reason or if I am just having a bad day.
 
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Wrong. Title II applied to "public accommodations" which specifically included hotels, restaurants, movie theaters, etc.

Thanks, I stand corrected!

Most of my legalese education was more towards employment law.

Yes, the bakery case didn't apply here (as meant to be consumed off premises) but unfortunately for them, the STATE law did, so that's why they got burned.

The last paragraph is interesting. It's how some businesses can still discriminate (i.e. membership).

I still say let the market sort it out though.

Interesting point though, why doesn't the LGBT movement focus on getting inclusion into these existing protections? If I were of such persuasion, it seems glaringly obvious that THIS would be the path I'd take for equality. Oh well. What do I know...lol....
 
Lets see, bar is shutting down due to failing the health department inspection, instead of closing permanently they decide to improve, so, because the Knockback Nats are complying with the city order they are a racist :confused::rolleyes: Inner city education for ya.

I breath air, therefore I must be racist, per the Liberal manual. Liberal Education doctrine.
 

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