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When we lived outside of Albuquerque, anything not nailed down would disappear. Hadn't had a problem at all where we live now, people still leave keys in all their tractors and equipment, and leave their doors and windows open. Hoping it will stay that way for awhile. I did have chicken scratch swiped from the bed of my pickup recently in the bigger town, and that did surprise me.
 
I don't even know where the keys are to my house, and I never lock or take the keys out of any of our vehicles or equipment.
That's normal too around here. Although I know our neighbor Marlon's tractor uses the same key as ours, so when he needs a smaller tractor, he just uses his key to borrow ours. He has a skidster that other farmer's borrow, and they feel free to come and borrow, the keys are in it. If he's not home, he can tell who borrowed it by the tractor left there that drove over.
 
If it's this bad now imagine what it will be in a year or so when the country completely collapses. I met a man of the cloth who had been stationed in Venezuela and he told me neighbors would steal everything from each other, they were so poor.


Not what I wanted to see today. DD moved to Chicago last week. We’re on opposite ends of the spectrum on many things. I hope and pray for the best…
 
Not what I wanted to see today. DD moved to Chicago last week. We’re on opposite ends of the spectrum on many things. I hope and pray for the best…
Moved to Chicago?
Voluntarily?
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We have had multiple train robberies in our area. The BNSF rails parellel I-40 and they slow down on the grade from the CA border to Kingman (at 4,000 ft). Mexican gangs using U hauls. I'd put guards with ARs on the trains, but BNSF does nothing. Then our sheriff has to hopefully catch them, and WE (taxpayers) pay to prosecute and incarcerate them. Far cheaper and easier to just kill them. IMHO But that's why the country is collapsing. Our govt won't make the laws needed to restore the right to defend property.

Jose Martinez in Venezula has written about rural neighbor looting on a different site. He's said they will steal food from the gardens, and anything not welded down.

Where I live is very safe (walled HOA). Our house is walled and gated and sits on a bluff in back. Inside our "fortified compound" ;) we don't worry. We don't lock the doors or cars. Criminals here aren't stupid or desperate enough, yet, to jump our wall. But the local scanner group is always reporting trespassing and thefts down by my shop in town. A guy is doing 4 years in prison for ripping out my IN GROUND decorative landscape lighting at the shop. I got the mofo on camera. We blasted his pic on FB and by 9am the next day he was arrested. And at 70 years old (well 67 then) I had to trench, lay new wires and $300 worth of lights, in mid-summer, because of that low life.

It never dawned on me anyone would go through that effort to steal copper wire and landscape lights. I mean who even thinks about such things? Recently I had some of that cheap yellow polypropolyne rope bracing a couple of palm trees. Some mofo STOLE the sun weathered rope right off the trees! They must have really needed to tie something down. Didn't even cut the knots, they took time to untie them and keep the rope longer. (Bangs my head on table...)
 
I know, I know. Love is blind. Deaf, dumb, and stupid, too.
I was grasping at straws for a reason...
Been exiled for a bad crime?
Needs to hone her looting skills from the professionals? :dunno:
 
New Daily Tradition...?!?
 
le When we lived outside of Albuquerque, anything not nailed down would disappear. Hadn't had a problem at all where we live now, people still leave keys in all their tractors and equipment, and leave their doors and windows open. Hoping it will stay that way for awhile. I did have chicken scratch swiped from the bed of my pickup recently in the bigger town, and that did surprise me.
We met a couple from NM whose house kept getting broken into so they moved to TX and someone robbed their vehicles. They said it was all the people on drugs. I watched videos of people in Kensington PA on drugs laying right out on the sidewalk. I wondered where they got the money to buy the drugs? I guess they stole? Then I wondered how they paid their mortgage?

I'm always wary when we drive anywhere now.
 
I don't even know where the keys are to my house, and I never lock or take the keys out of any of our vehicles or equipment.
That's a great way to live. I doubt that looting will hit the outer areas - it will mostly happen in the cities. One of the neighbor's here went to a local WaWa and a skinny woman attacked him and tried to rob him. For a skinny female to attack a 6' guy she had to be high. She's lucky he was a gentleman and just pushed her off. Some men would have punched her in the face. One of the people from our church down the street had her car robbed during the service. So it's getting bad here.
 
We have had multiple train robberies in our area. The BNSF rails parellel I-40 and they slow down on the grade from the CA border to Kingman (at 4,000 ft). Mexican gangs using U hauls. I'd put guards with ARs on the trains, but BNSF does nothing. Then our sheriff has to hopefully catch them, and WE (taxpayers) pay to prosecute and incarcerate them. Far cheaper and easier to just kill them. IMHO But that's why the country is collapsing. Our govt won't make the laws needed to restore the right to defend property.

Jose Martinez in Venezula has written about rural neighbor looting on a different site. He's said they will steal food from the gardens, and anything not welded down.

Where I live is very safe (walled HOA). Our house is walled and gated and sits on a bluff in back. Inside our "fortified compound" ;) we don't worry. We don't lock the doors or cars. Criminals here aren't stupid or desperate enough, yet, to jump our wall. But the local scanner group is always reporting trespassing and thefts down by my shop in town. A guy is doing 4 years in prison for ripping out my IN GROUND decorative landscape lighting at the shop. I got the mofo on camera. We blasted his pic on FB and by 9am the next day he was arrested. And at 70 years old (well 67 then) I had to trench, lay new wires and $300 worth of lights, in mid-summer, because of that low life.

It never dawned on me anyone would go through that effort to steal copper wire and landscape lights. I mean who even thinks about such things? Recently I had some of that cheap yellow polypropolyne rope bracing a couple of palm trees. Some mofo STOLE the sun weathered rope right off the trees! They must have really needed to tie something down. Didn't even cut the knots, they took time to untie them and keep the rope longer. (Bangs my head on table...)
I have always heard bad things about HOA's but maybe there are some good things about them too.

You sound like someone in our family. She was driving and a dingbat on her cellphone ran into her. She was going to pick up a wood stove, and was luckily in a heavy truck. However, the woman did a lot of damage that the family member had to go on to get fixed. She also got whiplash and a concussion and it damaged her hearing. Someone else's foolish choices are hard to bear when you are left fixing the fallout.
 
I don't even know where the keys are to my house, and I never lock or take the keys out of any of our vehicles or equipment.
We usually leave our back door unlocked when we go to the grocery store and sometimes we leave the garage door open when we will be gone an hour or so. We live in a 25 home development that's out in the country.

Town is growing toward us and just recently an entrance to a new interstate bypass of OKC has been built less than 2 miles from our home. That's not likely to change things instantly, but in the future I'm sure it will. There are no gas stations or eateries on that entrance/exit, so there's that.

Our once-safe American rural land ..... is coming to an end.
 
No way would I live behind walls, well I did when I worked overseas in some of the shythole countries, but not in the US. No place is worth living like that.
When we lived in Sardinia, we visited some friends in Naples. They had a beautiful apartment with 5 deadbolt locks lining up the front door. They hired a few kids to watch their car.

Sardinia was very safe and still is one of the safest places in Europe. We did see the frequent carabinere on the highways and those guys didn't hesitate to point their uzis at a person's head.
 
Nobody has ever tried to break into our house. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has ever even touched our doorknob that we didn't invite to touch our doorknob. But we lock the door anyway. By the time you get to our front door, you have been captured on four separate cameras and we have been notified in the house. We've never seen anything nefarious on the camera recordings. If you do manage to get into our house uninvited, you will be facing firepower that you probably never imagined. We've never had to shoot anyone before.

It's nice to live in a place where you don't have to worry about any of this. The problem is, you don't have to worry about it until that first time when you do. And it may be too late if you didn't worry about it preemptively. We live in a very nice neighborhood. I do not expect bad things to come to us. But thinking, "That never happens here!" is about the poorest defense strategy I can think of.

It takes me less than two seconds to unlock my front door. I don't even need keys since it's a push button lock. I'll trade those few seconds of delay for the few seconds of additional time a locked door will give me in the event someone tries to break in. They may ultimately defeat the lock, but the few seconds it gave me during its death throes may be all that's needed to really turn things to my advantage.
 
Nobody has ever tried to break into our house. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has ever even touched our doorknob that we didn't invite to touch our doorknob. But we lock the door anyway. By the time you get to our front door, you have been captured on four separate cameras and we have been notified in the house. We've never seen anything nefarious on the camera recordings. If you do manage to get into our house uninvited, you will be facing firepower that you probably never imagined. We've never had to shoot anyone before.

It's nice to live in a place where you don't have to worry about any of this. The problem is, you don't have to worry about it until that first time when you do. And it may be too late if you didn't worry about it preemptively. We live in a very nice neighborhood. I do not expect bad things to come to us. But thinking, "That never happens here!" is about the poorest defense strategy I can think of.

It takes me less than two seconds to unlock my front door. I don't even need keys since it's a push button lock. I'll trade those few seconds of delay for the few seconds of additional time a locked door will give me in the event someone tries to break in. They may ultimately defeat the lock, but the few seconds it gave me during its death throes may be all that's needed to really turn things to my advantage.
I watched a Dateline episode where a single woman felt so safe in her small, picturesque town that she left the doors unlocked. A guy who got gas nearby her house somehow went to her house and found the doors unlocked, and raped and murdered her. So I don't care how safe we may feel in our little neck of the woods, locking the doors is just smart.

My husband put up cameras and I'm grateful for them. We were away and saw a guy pull into our driveway, get out and just stand there. We have no clue what he was doing, but he got back into his car and drove away. I don't know if he realized that he was being recorded and drove away or what. We never found out who he was.

I feel more vulnerable now that we're older.

What kind of lock do you have that allows you to get into your house so quickly? I don't like having to fumble with the keys at the door.
 
Sadly, it will never stop as long as criminals are not prosecuted. Why woud they stop? Nothing happens to them.

Remember when we were kids, and the adage every adult preached was "Crime Doesn't Pay". Not anymore. Crime pays big time, and it will continue until people get their collective heads out of their you-know-what and PUNISH CRIMINALS SEVERELY.

I have said it before, but I was admittedly born 100 years to late. I would hang them from the nearest tree.
 
Sadly, it will never stop as long as criminals are not prosecuted. Why woud they stop? Nothing happens to them.

Remember when we were kids, and the adage every adult preached was "Crime Doesn't Pay". Not anymore. Crime pays big time, and it will continue until people get their collective heads out of their you-know-what and PUNISH CRIMINALS SEVERELY.

I have said it before, but I was admittedly born 100 years to late. I would hang them from the nearest tree.
What's sad is that people are prosecuted for unusual things while criminals walk free. I read about this grandfather who left his gun out. His grandson and another boy played with it and his grandson was shot and killed. The grandfather was sentenced to 3 years in prison.

I don't believe for one second that people should be irresponsible with guns - but that grandfather's heart has to be broken. To send him to prison is cruel in my opinion.
 
Looters should be shot. Unfortunately if you evacuate and don't stay behind, you lose precious chances to shoot the looters. Catch-22.
I’m old enough to remember when the police would advertise, in certain circumstances, that looters would be shot.
 
Sadly, it will never stop as long as criminals are not prosecuted. Why woud they stop? Nothing happens to them.

Remember when we were kids, and the adage every adult preached was "Crime Doesn't Pay". Not anymore. Crime pays big time, and it will continue until people get their collective heads out of their you-know-what and PUNISH CRIMINALS SEVERELY.

I have said it before, but I was admittedly born 100 years to late. I would hang them from the nearest tree.
Crime pay when the .gov runs it
 
I always worried about being overtaken in a parking lot too. I watched a Dateline episode where a beautiful young woman left a store in a crowded parking lot and was putting items in her trunk when a guy overtook her. Her father was a cop which surprised me because he probably taught her about safety. I don't know how the criminal was able to maneuver her into her car unless he used a stun gun. I would think that even collapsing to the ground might work. But he took her to the secondary crime scene and murdered her.
 
I watched a Dateline episode where a single woman felt so safe in her small, picturesque town that she left the doors unlocked. A guy who got gas nearby her house somehow went to her house and found the doors unlocked, and raped and murdered her. So I don't care how safe we may feel in our little neck of the woods, locking the doors is just smart.

My husband put up cameras and I'm grateful for them. We were away and saw a guy pull into our driveway, get out and just stand there. We have no clue what he was doing, but he got back into his car and drove away. I don't know if he realized that he was being recorded and drove away or what. We never found out who he was.

I feel more vulnerable now that we're older.

What kind of lock do you have that allows you to get into your house so quickly? I don't like having to fumble with the keys at the door.
Memorize the way the key goes into the lock, try it w/o looking at it, get used to doing it when it is pitch black until You can do it closed eyed...!!! Put that key on a special fob, chain or something that again, You know it front, back, upwards and downwards til You can do it w/o Thinking about it...!! Maybee even put it on a chain with a small light for when it is dark...! Try it and do it until You can pick it up and make it work without seeing it... Those Precious Seconds could Make it a Difference...!!!
 

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