Looting

[shanrose]

All looters should be shot on sight.

We have already become a society that will not protect its citizens, and therefore the citizens are left to protect themselves.

These prosecutors and judges are equally as bad as the actual criminals themselves.

Common sense went out the window. Look what's happening in the UK - the police aren't worried about crime, they're worried about what people post online. We are truly in a dystopian nightmare. I read that "political correctness" was invented in Nazi Germany. I just wish that we could turn the clock back 50 years.

 

[Mountain trapper]

I think some people watch too much news. Bad news sells. Not every place in the country is as bad as the news would like us to believe. If things really are that bad, why would you choose to live in a place like that? Move, leave it to the ghetto trash.

 

[Haertig]

I always worried about being overtaken in a parking lot too.

Have you ever considered carrying a firearm? The anti's will shame you and say, "You're just trying to initiate trouble!" But my personal experience, from my own life and that of about every friend I know (most all go armed), is that when you are armed you are much more aware of your surroundings and do much more to avoid getting into potentially dangerous situations than your unarmed brethren. But the anti's will try to shame you anyway. Because they are ignorant and stupid. If your choice is to go unarmed, that's perfectly OK. But don't do it because some idiot libtard told you to. Training, practice, and learning the law is required.

 

[shanrose]

Memorize the way the key goes into the lock, try it w/o looking at it, get used to doing it when it is pitch black until You can do it closed eyed...!!! Put that key on a special fob, chain or something that again, You know it front, back, upwards and downwards til You can do it w/o Thinking about it...!! Maybee even put it on a chain with a small light for when it is dark...! Try it and do it until You can pick it up and make it work without seeing it... Those Precious Seconds could Make it a Difference...!!!

That's really wise. Thank you!

I think that could apply to many things. I watched videos of people getting robbed at gas stations. Instead of reading or looking at my phone, I now started watching the area and if anyone was lurking about or approaching my husband. it's probably a good idea to use that tip with reacting to any attempt to rob you.

I've watched safety videos over the years but the preparation mindset will really come in handy as the country breaks down.

 

[shanrose]

Have you ever considered carrying a firearm? The anti's will shame you and say, "You're just trying to initiate trouble!" But my personal experience, from my own life and that of about every friend I know (most all go armed), is that when you are armed you are much more aware of your surroundings and do much more to avoid getting into potentially dangerous situations than your unarmed brethren. But the anti's will try to shame you anyway. Because they are ignorant and stupid. If your choice is to go unarmed, that's perfectly OK. But don't do it because some idiot libtard told you to. Training, practice, and learning the law is required.

I am older but have never owned a firearm so they seem somehow foreign to me. I hope to change that. As the country grew worse however, I told my husband that we needed protection. He bought a gun for himself and for me. When we go out he is armed. I have not taken the classes yet so I was waiting to get through a few medical procedures and then I was going to take a firearm course. However, if he has to go anywhere I keep a gun right beside me. I was going to look for an online firearms course also.

Sadly, many Dateline episodes show young women who could have been saved, if they had known how to use a gun.

 

[UserNameTaken]

I have always heard bad things about HOA's but maybe there are some good things about them too.

You sound like someone in our family. She was driving and a dingbat on her cellphone ran into her. She was going to pick up a wood stove, and was luckily in a heavy truck. However, the woman did a lot of damage that the family member had to go on to get fixed. She also got whiplash and a concussion and it damaged her hearing. Someone else's foolish choices are hard to bear when you are left fixing the fallout.

If you find a good thing about HOAs please let me know... Our place is only on 2/3 acre, desert landscaping, and our walls/gates are only 6' (HOA rules). It's just your typical nice AZ snowbird neighborhood. So it's not like a real fortress. And I wouldn't want to stand out anyway. But my goal is to be a "harder" target than the weekend folks down the street with their boat parked ready to steal on a trailer beside the house, no walls or gates... or lights. And to show how safe, it's been like that for years. They come out about once a month, and nobody's ever bothered their place.

As for guns and security, I encourage you to become comfortable and proficient with a firearm. I just went to a new gun store that opened recently. They have a simulator room with guns that use lasers on a big wall size 4K screen. They can show regular targets or complicated scenarios like tracking an active shooter. If there's anything like that in your area you may find it helpful. (He said $50 a half hour, but considering ammo savings not so expensive.)

How I think my house looks...

Reality...

 

[shanrose]

If you find a good thing about HOAs please let me know... Our place is only on 2/3 acre, desert landscaping, and our walls/gates are only 6' (HOA rules). It's just your typical nice AZ snowbird neighborhood. So it's not like a real fortress. And I wouldn't want to stand out anyway. But my goal is to be a "harder" target than the weekend folks down the street with their boat parked ready to steal on a trailer beside the house, no walls or gates... or lights. And to show how safe, it's been like that for years. They come out about once a month, and nobody's ever bothered their place.

As for guns and security, I encourage you to become comfortable and proficient with a firearm. I just went to a new gun store that opened recently. They have a simulator room with guns that use lasers on a big wall size 4K screen. They can show regular targets or complicated scenarios like tracking an active shooter. If there's anything like that in your area you may find it helpful. (He said $50 a half hour, but considering ammo savings not so expensive.)

How I think my house looks...
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Reality...
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Yeah I read that usually people with certain personalities like getting into positions of power such as HOA's. I'm independent and would not like anyone to tell me what color my house should be or if my grass was 1/2" too high. There's a guy in Florida who the township is trying to steal his house because his grass grew too high.

The blue sky in that castle photo are beautiful. I haven't seen blue skies that beautiful in years.

 

[Haertig]

The blue sky in that castle photo are beautiful. I haven't seen blue skies that beautiful in years.

Get you a circular polarizing filter for your camera and PhotoShop or Gimp for your computer!

Here's some examples of what a polarizing filter can do. Pictures taken from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarizing_filter_(photography)

 

[Caribou]

I am older but have never owned a firearm so they seem somehow foreign to me. I hope to change that. As the country grew worse however, I told my husband that we needed protection. He bought a gun for himself and for me. When we go out he is armed. I have not taken the classes yet so I was waiting to get through a few medical procedures and then I was going to take a firearm course. However, if he has to go anywhere I keep a gun right beside me. I was going to look for an online firearms course also.

Sadly, many Dateline episodes show young women who could have been saved, if they had known how to use a gun.

Most gun ranges offer beginner gun handling classes. Many offer classes designed for women. Go buy yourself a few hundred rounds of practice ammo and a hundred rounds of carry ammo. You’ll need a concealment holster. After you get comfortable shooting take a concealed carry class. This class will test your shooting skills but this class is not really about sooting as much as it is about gun safety and gun laws.

 

[Supervisor42]

Have you ever considered carrying a firearm? The anti's will shame you and say, "You're just trying to initiate trouble!" But my personal experience, from my own life and that of about every friend I know (most all go armed), is that when you are armed you are much more aware of your surroundings and do much more to avoid getting into potentially dangerous situations than your unarmed brethren. But the anti's will try to shame you anyway. Because they are ignorant and stupid. If your choice is to go unarmed, that's perfectly OK. But don't do it because some idiot libtard told you to. Training, practice, and learning the law is required.

Don't forget open-carry...
Legal in almost every state.
When BG's see you are 'strapped', they assume you are LE and go elsewhere.
Deterrent:

If you find yourself in a state colored red or yellow, then do the permit-dance.

 

[Amish Heart]

Don't forget open-carry...
Legal in almost every state.
When BG's see you are 'strapped', they assume you are LE and go elsewhere.
Deterrent:
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If you find yourself in a state colored red or yellow, then do the permit-dance.

Be careful. A state like New Mexico is open carry. But you will have the police called on you if you do.

 

[dademoss]

Be careful. A state like New Mexico is open carry. But you will have the police called on you if you do.

Most PD's in ohio have been "schooled" over the years about open carry. I've talked with the township trustees and all the township chiefs on the subject. Cincinnati and Cleveland prove troublesome, they get taken to court.

https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-9.68

 

[Mountain trapper]

Don't forget open-carry...
Legal in almost every state.
When BG's see you are 'strapped', they assume you are LE and go elsewhere.
Deterrent:
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If you find yourself in a state colored red or yellow, then do the permit-dance.

Or move to a state where you are free to carry however you see fit. No stupid permit required in my state.

 

[shanrose]

Most gun ranges offer beginner gun handling classes. Many offer classes designed for women. Go buy yourself a few hundred rounds of practice ammo and a hundred rounds of carry ammo. You’ll need a concealment holster. After you get comfortable shooting take a concealed carry class. This class will test your shooting skills but this class is not really about sooting as much as it is about gun safety and g gun laws.

I'll look for beginner classes, thank you. I try to watch Active Self Protection once in awhile just to grasp different scenarios that people find themselves in. I just watched one where a guy pulled a gun on the owner behind a counter at a store and the owner was as quick as lightning and pulled a gun back on the would-be-robber. The owner kept shooting and missing the thief which rather shocked me. But the owner's quick-acting response may have saved his life because the thief ran out of the store.

The thing that I have always been wary about is what would you do if it was a gang who assailed you? Look at what's happening with the Venezuelan gangs in CO - they know how to wield power in groups. I read one news story where a guy in Florida got up in the middle of the night to find three thugs in his house. He had one of those guns that shoots multiple times and he killed one guy and the others fled. It seems as if sometimes extra power is needed. I fear middle of the night attacks because you're so vulnerable.

 

[lonewolf]

Common sense went out the window. Look what's happening in the UK - the police aren't worried about crime, they're worried about what people post online. We are truly in a dystopian nightmare. I read that "political correctness" was invented in Nazi Germany. I just wish that we could turn the clock back 50 years.

it isnt quite that bad yet, most crime is confined to London and the Northern cities, out here in the shires its still positively peaceful.
the online stuff is mostly Facebook and X, neither of which I participate on.

 

[shanrose]

Get you a circular polarizing filter for your camera and PhotoShop or Gimp for your computer!

Here's some examples of what a polarizing filter can do. Pictures taken from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarizing_filter_(photography)

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And here I thought it was natural.

The prettiest blue sky that I ever saw was in Arizona.

 

[Morgan101]

The thing that I have always been wary about is what would you do if it was a gang who assailed you?

That would be a question to ask when you take a class, and certainly a consideration on what gun to buy, and what gun to carry. You would want something, probably a semiautomatic, that holds a higher number of rounds. It is a very serious decision. Think it through carefully.

 

[shanrose]

That would be a question to ask when you take a class, and certainly a consideration on what gun to buy, and what gun to carry. You would want something, probably a semiautomatic, that holds a higher number of rounds. It is a very serious decision. Think it through carefully.

I think you are right - it is a serious decision and I will ask that question when I attend classes. I do remember the story I read, about a man in Florida who faced several attackers who broke into his home. I believe that he had an AR-15 (I don't know about guns and may get it wrong) but it was something that shot multiple rounds. It's probably the only reason that he survived.

All we need to do is see what's happening in CO with the Venezuelan gangs. If a full out collapse happens - which I think it will - it's only a matter of time before gangs form.

 

[SoulSeeker]

A big problem with women carrying is they get it taken away because their not in the mindset to protect themselves. They don't want to hurt or heaven forbid kill someone. They need to understand that if they don't protect themselves then the creep(s) will get away with it and do it to someone else. Take the shot before their able to close in on you. Remember their trying to hurt or kill you.

 

[shanrose]

A big problem with women carrying is they get it taken away because their not in the mindset to protect themselves. They don't want to hurt or heaven forbid kill someone. They need to understand that if they don't protect themselves then the creep(s) will get away with it and do it to someone else. Take the shot before their able to close in on you. Remember their trying to hurt or kill you.

I agree with you. It probably takes practice to be able to assess a situation accurately and condition yourself to defend yourself.

 

[UserNameTaken]

John at ASP has developed quite well over the years. If you go to NRAInstructors.org there may be classes near you. Be sure to vette the instructors, NRA certified can be very good, or rather poor. Look for teachers with a variety of training, not just "ex-military" or "ex-cop," you aren't either one. You want someone who has trained under civilian trainers (too). What is severely lacking is "legal aspects" training. A solid understanding of law is as important, maybe more than a fast draw.

We are sadly at a point in the US, where any random scuzzbag can ruin your life in the blink of an eye. It's imperative you have the legal knowledge to make the correct judgment call. But no barbarian has the right to harm you. We have to know, without flaw, when to use lethal force, when not, and when to stop!

As for guns. The best gun is the one you have in hand and know how to use, when you need it. Try some first. Don't let others tell you what you should carry. I had a petite, older gal (70's) a nurse, who took several of my classes. One time she was sitting in on an intermediate level class she'd attended previously. I didn't pay close attention to what she was carrying, other than noting it was a snub nose revolver, (I had co-instructors working directly with the students) which she was at a skill level to shoot well. She had said she wanted to get some time in on it as her carry gun.

So we get to doing our first drill on the line. "Pop-pop-pop," went all the 9 mm's. Then, "KA-BLAM!!!" I thought a gun blew up! Down at the end of the line, my little old lady was shooting full power .357 magnum out of her snubbie. The freaking flame ball went a foot or two out the barrel! She shot a box of .357 before switching to .38, and on target too. My point is it's not the gun, it's the shooter.

I am not keen on snub nose revolvers for most people. Nor am I sure that semi-autos are best for people who seldom shoot. For a home gun, you might look into a 4 or 5 inch quality revolver, I suggest .38/.357, but if recoil is an issue there are .22 and 9mm options. (Not big on .22 for defense, too many ammo failure issues, but if it works for you, fine.) And you will never go wrong with a Glock.

I would not obsess on it though.

 

[Caribou]

I'll look for beginner classes, thank you. I try to watch Active Self Protection once in awhile just to grasp different scenarios that people find themselves in. I just watched one where a guy pulled a gun on the owner behind a counter at a store and the owner was as quick as lightning and pulled a gun back on the would-be-robber. The owner kept shooting and missing the thief which rather shocked me. But the owner's quick-acting response may have saved his life because the thief ran out of the store.

The thing that I have always been wary about is what would you do if it was a gang who assailed you? Look at what's happening with the Venezuelan gangs in CO - they know how to wield power in groups. I read one news story where a guy in Florida got up in the middle of the night to find three thugs in his house. He had one of those guns that shoots multiple times and he killed one guy and the others fled. It seems as if sometimes extra power is needed. I fear middle of the night attacks because you're so vulnerable.

Good for you. Pick a gun that feels good in your hand and has a reputation for reliability. I like Glock but there are many good guns out there. Many gun store salesmen try to sell small guns to women. Small guns are for expert shooters, not beginners. If you get a semi-auto make sure you can operate the slide. Small guns have heavy springs. a small gun has a light slide so it requires a heavy spring to absorb the recoil. A lighter gun has more felt recoil. Some ranges rent guns so try a few.

Start reading and watch video’s. I recommend “In the Gravest Extreme” by Massad Ayoob as your first book. If you join ACLDN, Armed Citizen’s Legal Defence Fund, they will send you a bunch of videos and a book to train you. You can read their monthly journal for free, start from the first and read every issue.