I found some F-4 photos... Isn't that the plane john mcstain was in when he fired a live missile across the flight deck of the USS Forestal? And killed 134 sailors & airmen?
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McCain was an A-4E Skyhawk pilot who’s plane was on fire from the ruptured tank and exploding munitions of another Skyhawk that was hit with the missile from the Phantom.
I found this photo and did a little research, sad... there was so much suffering during that time. I have an ancestor who was last seen in the wagon train of wounded leaving Gettysburg. 9000 men in 1200 wagons of all types. A friend of the family came home afterwards and reported it to family. But my ancestor was never heard from again.
Camp Morton was a military prisoner-of-war camp in Indianapolis, Indiana, during the Civil War. It contained Confederate prisoners - February 22, 1862 - June 12, 1865.
A 36-acre prison for noncom's and privates.
Avg pop was 3,214
Max 4,999 in July 1864.
Avg fifty deaths per month.
1,700 prisoners died in four years of operation.
The remains of 1,616 dead are at Indianapolis's Crown Hill Cemetery.
Camp Morton was a military prisoner-of-war camp in Indianapolis, Indiana, during the Civil War. It contained Confederate prisoners - February 22, 1862 - June 12, 1865.
A 36-acre prison for noncom's and privates.
Avg pop was 3,214
Max 4,999 in July 1864.
Avg fifty deaths per month.
1,700 prisoners died in four years of operation.
The remains of 1,616 dead are at Indianapolis's Crown Hill Cemetery.
I was on this ship the day this was taken in Charleston SC 28jan86. It was really cold and had actually snowed. Minutes after this photo was taken the Challenger space shuttle exploded.
Almost immediately we put to sea, in a really big hurry! I got to see the real top speed of a destroyer. One ship got to the shuttle debris field before us, a frigate out of Mayport FL. Our job was to keep the nosy russian subs at a respectable distance until more help arrived.
And the Florida coast was just as cold as Charleston.
HMS Battleaxe is in the center of the pic, a British frigate. You can see her ensign blowing in the wind.
Almost immediately we put to sea, in a really big hurry! I got to see the real top speed of a destroyer. One ship got to the shuttle debris field before us, a frigate out of Mayport FL. Our job was to keep the nosy russian subs at a respectable distance until more help arrived.
And the Florida coast was just as cold as Charleston.
HMS Battleaxe is in the center of the pic, a British frigate. You can see her ensign blowing in the wind.
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Mare Island CA during ww2. There was already a big shipyard there when the war started. I was stationed there decades later.
Sort of funny, on the last hills at the end of the island the US Navy built a golf course! I kid you not! It was supposed to be the toughest golf course on any US military base in the world! Anyone with a star on their uniform stopped to play a round if they were on the west coast.
The only times I've ever played golf was there... My missile school was on the hill next to the course, it was an excuse to drink a couple beers after work.
There were always admirals and generals walking around in golf shorts. They would also stop at the enlisted mess. The chow hall had won the status of having the best food in the Navy several years in a row. It was the best Navy chow I ever had... those guys could cook!
Your tax dollars at work! The good and the bad!
Sort of funny, on the last hills at the end of the island the US Navy built a golf course! I kid you not! It was supposed to be the toughest golf course on any US military base in the world! Anyone with a star on their uniform stopped to play a round if they were on the west coast.
The only times I've ever played golf was there... My missile school was on the hill next to the course, it was an excuse to drink a couple beers after work.
There were always admirals and generals walking around in golf shorts. They would also stop at the enlisted mess. The chow hall had won the status of having the best food in the Navy several years in a row. It was the best Navy chow I ever had... those guys could cook!
Your tax dollars at work! The good and the bad!
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Some PBY photos...
Anti-aircraft gunfire damage to a PBM. It's easy to forget how much battle damage planes could take during the war and still fly.
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You said PBY. Aren't those all PBM's? The tail section definitely looks different than a PBY.
Tough planes nevertheless. Many a downed pilot loved to see those coming in low overhead while they're bobbing in the water.
Tough planes nevertheless. Many a downed pilot loved to see those coming in low overhead while they're bobbing in the water.
The PBY came before the PBM. The PBY Catalina had less wing and less power. The PBM Mariner was larger, had more wing, more power and was more comfortable to fly in. If memory serves me, the PBM had a bomb bay behind each engine.
They were both great planes that don't get the recognition they deserve.
They were both great planes that don't get the recognition they deserve.
The photos were labeled haphazardly at the source. Some without names and the actual photo files weren't named but numbered. Your guess is as good as mine.
F4 on the deck. Is that an A4 just launching?
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That's my guess. Big ass engine on such a little jet.
First time I saw the Blue Angels they were flying A4s. Great show
We were along the DMZ, and fighter/bombers on missions over North Vietnam from land bases would come back south flying low over the Z.
Those F-4 Phantoms sure did smoke.
Those F-4 Phantoms sure did smoke.
Loud too
I don't think Russia knows what they're up against.
Jim
Jim
Especially when they hit the ground.
One afternoon, a Phantom came south over the DMZ, smoking a lot more than usual, flying low, and escorted by a wing man.
When they got to our base camp, the pilot and the GIB ejected and the plane went in.
We sent out a patrol to get them before the dinks did.
They were real happy to be on “American soil “.
Nice meme, and it’s floating around Farce Book today, but that is an anti tank sabot round for the main gun of the M1A Abrams tank.
Not a field artillery round.
Glad you guys brought them in. They were lucky to be so close.
We used to live in Louisville, Ky back in the mid 80's. Our apartment was just west of the airport, from our bathroom window you could see the runway lights at night. Local Air National Guard flew F-4's and they did touch and goes on a regular basis all hours of the day and night. I enjoyed seeing them fly, but at 3 am they would wake the dead.
Was thinking of them, too. A few times over the years there would be a huge boom that would be heard over the city and it would make the local news and then they would say something like the National Guard doesn’t have any planes that could do that. The F-4 Phantom was more than capable!
Now, if their current C-130’s did this that would be news-worthy.
Yep F-4 surely capable of speed of sound, and then some. Speed was their friend cause they didn't turn for crap. C-130 would hit that using JATO's.
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I'm guessing a C-130 would shatter if it hit sonic speeds.
Oh, and why is it JATO and not RATO? Those are rockets, not jets (as I recall).
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Here's my old birds. When our full squadron was in flight (9 Cobra's and 9 Huey's), we'd shake everything on the ground. 
My step dad was on the Iowa in WW II, he was the Oil King, the guy in charge of getting fuel from a tanker to the battle ship. The captain allowed him to be above deck when they fired the big guns one time, he told me that he never did that again. When he died his son asked me what I wanted of his dad's stuff, I told him the colored picture of the Iowa firing broadside, I don't know if it was during or after "Desert Storm" but I know it was in that time period because of the Patriot Missile containers on deck, it's amazing to see what those big weapons can do, the ocean waves are flattened below where the fireball goes out. They can throw a round out the weight of a VW bug at about the same fps as a 30-06 round.
