How do they make them, can they be made ahead of time? Is it something to add to things to do?
Molotov Cocktails
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Molotov cocktails can be more dangerous to the user than to the intended target.
I work in the medical field, and trust me--you'd rather be dead than in a burn unit with 2nd and 3rd degree burns on a large part of your body.
I work in the medical field, and trust me--you'd rather be dead than in a burn unit with 2nd and 3rd degree burns on a large part of your body.
Dissolving styrofoam in gas is the easiest method. In fact, one of the recent videos I saw from Ukraine shows civilians in the streets with boxes of white foam board with everyone covered in the little white balls from crushing it up. It does not have to be styrofoam though, many things gel gasoline. Egg whites are a wasteful but effective gelling agent. Wikipedia covers the military compositions (usually based on aluminum naphthenate) but any fatty acid and an aluminum cation should work if mixed right. But that is just the general idea, the military controls the moisture, particle size of the gelling agent, and additives like sodium metal and white phosphorus depending on the application and environment.
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if you saw the TWITTER feeds of the Ukranian assembly lines for making DIY defense tools >>> it's not done that way
no need to grind the polystyrene/styrofoam - definitely don't try to shove it down the neck of beer bottle >>> large open vat processing is best - just add in the chunks to the gasoline base - it dissolves into a thick slurry - jellied gasoline that'll stick to most anything .....
don't need beer or beverage bottles - more TV/movie BS than anything else - glass jars work just fine - if you intend to use catapults for distance - the jars work the best ....
using a wad of cotton cloth for a fuse is just about as dangerous as it gets for a few reasons - lighting up a bottle at night is just about suicide - those Ukrainians should be talking to the college chemistry students for some advise .....
no need to grind the polystyrene/styrofoam - definitely don't try to shove it down the neck of beer bottle >>> large open vat processing is best - just add in the chunks to the gasoline base - it dissolves into a thick slurry - jellied gasoline that'll stick to most anything .....
don't need beer or beverage bottles - more TV/movie BS than anything else - glass jars work just fine - if you intend to use catapults for distance - the jars work the best ....
using a wad of cotton cloth for a fuse is just about as dangerous as it gets for a few reasons - lighting up a bottle at night is just about suicide - those Ukrainians should be talking to the college chemistry students for some advise .....
I would prefer to assault the tank with unlit napalm (glass jars) and then let somebody else shoot a flare gun to ignite the napalm. That would help prevent accidental burns of the good guys and also allow for more concealment for the attackers. JM2C
As a child I first saw movies of WW2 where it was dropped from 3-5th story buildings on tanks and troop carriers below. It was an urban weapon, at least then.
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Here's what happens if your hand slips while carrying a Molotov Coctail
A safer molotov cocktail can be made with sugar, potassium perchlorate, strips of cloth, gasoline, and sulfuric acid.
You dissolve a mixture of sugar and potassium perchlorate in water, and soak the cloth strips in it and hang the strips up to gradually dry.
Put about a half inch of sulfuric acid in the glass bottle, and fill the rest of the way with gasoline.
The gas will not mix with the acid . . . just like how gasoline floats on water.
Close the bottle securely, and seal the lid.
Now, tape the cloth strips on the outside.
All the needs to be done is to throw or drop the bottle with enough force to break the glass.
When the acid touches the cloth strips, they will burst into flame (hyperglolic exothermic reaction), which promptly ignites the gasoline.
So, no need for lighters or flame.
Just--for God's sake--don't drop this thing accidentally.
You dissolve a mixture of sugar and potassium perchlorate in water, and soak the cloth strips in it and hang the strips up to gradually dry.
Put about a half inch of sulfuric acid in the glass bottle, and fill the rest of the way with gasoline.
The gas will not mix with the acid . . . just like how gasoline floats on water.
Close the bottle securely, and seal the lid.
Now, tape the cloth strips on the outside.
All the needs to be done is to throw or drop the bottle with enough force to break the glass.
When the acid touches the cloth strips, they will burst into flame (hyperglolic exothermic reaction), which promptly ignites the gasoline.
So, no need for lighters or flame.
Just--for God's sake--don't drop this thing accidentally.
Working in the field with sulfuric acid and gasoline does not sound safe to me.
And a molotov cocktail is?
I hate it when that happens.Here's what happens if your hand slips while carrying a Molotov Coctail
Seriously, people need to think through the consequences of their actions . . . and if any of them worked on an ambulance and actually see what happens when a human being gets horribly burned . . . there would be a lot less interest in molotov cocktails.
the pics I've seen of the Ukrainian assembly areas look like a disaster waiting to happen - pouring gas creates a lot of fumes and those areas are wide open for anyone to walk or drive into ....
people do what they have to do Kevin, when faced with an agressor like russia, it's effective, leathal and good for toasting ruskies.
should they throw cotton balls at them??
Molotov cocktails are indeed a terrible weapon. But they are also cheap and easy to make. I am sick to death of Putin. I feel a tiny bit of sympathy for his brainwashed soldiers. Maybe when his country's sons start coming home burned beyond recognition in body bags the people of Russia will rise up and replace him.
I'm not judging anyone, nor am I suggesting that people shouldn't defend their country by any means available . . . and I sincerely apologize if I created that impression.
I only wish to point out that molotov cocktails are almost as dangerous to the user as to the target, and that one should be careful--almost to the point of paranoia--about using them.
Again, I apologize if I suggested otherwise.
If you’re close enough to throw a Molotov Cocktail, you’re also well within range of any sharp eyed infantryman who will turn you into a Swiss Cheese-Human Torch. Flame On!
When you are at war you have to take risks that are unacceptable in peacetime. I keep a couple dozen wine bottles in storage for just in case.
I used to manufacture high explosives a long time ago. What came natural with calm nerves back then now scares the absolute hell out of me. I can't even mix flash powder without my hands looking like I have Parkinson's disease. If war comes to this country, I'll have to pop a couple metoprolol to calm my nerves because the invading force will be having one hell of a bad day.
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Something else that is safer than molotov cocktails but is really only good for soldiers not in a fortified vehicle.
Good old tannerite,you could easily make some bombs up that are loaded with screws and the like and place them at obvious ingress points.
Of course you'd have to camouflage them but that wouldnt be difficult.
Good old tannerite,you could easily make some bombs up that are loaded with screws and the like and place them at obvious ingress points.
Of course you'd have to camouflage them but that wouldnt be difficult.
Remember, ammonium nitrate (tannerite) is extremely hygroscopic. It will not detonate if it absorbs too much moisture. It would need to be sealed 100% moisture tight. Also, make sure you do not use copper (including brass) as it won't play nice with AN (I add that because people like using rifle casings to make DIY detonators).
I would suggest you avoid doing any of that before the need is immediate though. There would be tremendous risk having your family reside on a property rigged to blow. A stray bullet, a lightning strike, a fire, some kid finding it, a tree branch might fall and forcefully rip the wire out of the primary, etc...
You know, it is crazy that most ag centers stopped selling 34-0-0 because of people making explosives. Then, hardware stores turn around and stock the shelves with it for that very purpose... Go from 5 cents per pound to 5 dollars per pound and suddenly every store in town is justified in selling explosives lol. In 2001, I bought a few 50lb bags of AN (cost me less than lunch). The guy at the ag center took my ID and asked what I was using it for. I told him I was making a watering hole for the cows, he handed me my ID back and off I went with my purchase. I guess they only worried about "shake and bake" back then lol.
Anhydrous, pure ammonium nitrate can be obtained from chemical "break and shake" ice packs . . . like the kind used for sporting injuries.
Aluma seal is an aluminum powder sold in automotive supply stores for sealing up a leaky radiator, and pure nitromethane can be obtained from hobby shops, where it's used as a fuel for model airplanes.
Or so I've been told.
For Christ's sake . . . please be careful and use restraint.
Aluma seal is an aluminum powder sold in automotive supply stores for sealing up a leaky radiator, and pure nitromethane can be obtained from hobby shops, where it's used as a fuel for model airplanes.
Or so I've been told.
For Christ's sake . . . please be careful and use restraint.
You can buy up to 2 pounds of pyrotechnic grade aluminum powder from any professional fireworks supply per year without an explosive license. However, the other contents of your order will be used to determine your intentions, so understand your "intended use". In other words, don't be purchasing it with twice its weight in perchlorate with nothing else in the cart lol, it will get denied for sure!
Those cold packs are about the most expensive way to obtain AN, and the density is so high you often need to first get it wet, then dry it in the oven, to get the density to a usable level. Doing that really helps with later adding the liquid fuels as they can penetrate the pores created by the water escaping. Tannerite is a much cheaper source of AN. It can be made at home easy enough too.
Nitromethane used in hobby RC planes is between 10% and 20% nitromethane, the remainder being methanol with small amounts of synthetic oil. That is excellent stuff to use as an AN sensitizing fuel if you know your stoichiometry (in fact, it used to be my favorite choice, sensitive to a #8 cap). If you were to go to the race track to get some nitromethane, that stuff only needs a tiny amount of an organic amine to sensitize it. NM can even be sensitized with aluminum powder, but the liquid must be jelled to prevent it from settling out. I should stop here........
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Tannerite wont explode in a fire.
Keeping it dry would be easy enough. My thought was just set it off like you normally would,shoot it.
Wait until they're in the zone and fire away. Much simpler and pretty much foolproof unless you cant shoot straight.
You could also make it a directional charge so it only goes where you want it to.
There's definitely a lot of YouTube vids where dumbshits stand to close,the one where the lawn mower was put over the charge and a chunk of it hit the guy in the thigh and he bled out before he could get help is the most glaring miss use.
As I've said, I was a medic for many years.
I've seen the aftermath of stupid idiots following a cookbook to make explosives . . . some of them will never pee again without a tube, or be in a position to have children, if you get my meaning without me being offensive.
I've seen the aftermath of stupid idiots following a cookbook to make explosives . . . some of them will never pee again without a tube, or be in a position to have children, if you get my meaning without me being offensive.
