non electric tools,and other items of need

[Dalisa]

there will be diesel fuel all over the military and NG bases, diesel generators, tanker trailers and trucks to pull them, too.

 

[Maverick]

there will be diesel fuel all over the military and NG bases, diesel generators, tanker trailers and trucks to pull them, too.

In a prolonged SHTF I wouldn't count on much being left and what is left I'm not sure it would be a good idea to venture out through the gauntlet.

 

[Dalisa]

after a year, there wont be any gauntlet, cause nearly everyone will be dead. People lived for millenia without electricity, folks, and without metal tools for nearly all of that. Metal roofing, siding, piping and tools wont be going anywhere. I aint tying up thousands of dollars in tools for which I have no need in normal life, and for which I'll have no need post shtf, until I've survived over a year, set up real food production, etc. That stuff is WAY down the road in the way of preps. Very few can handle a knife wielding punk in the parking lot, TONIGHT, yet are all concerned about Amish style living. Homesteads will be raided for many years after shtf, repeatedly. You wont get to just skip the looting/killing, raping, fire, diseases part of things.

 

[Maverick]

Many folks prep hoping to never use the many products that have been purchased, what one calls a waste of money others will say it's insurance, many strive to be self sufficient not having to scavenge for their needs in places that offer nothing but danger, I don't believe most will be dead though the one's still alive are going to be a little more harden. Complacency amongst the gathers looking for supplies in and around the cities and suburbs is asking for trouble be it night time or day light hours regardless how equipped one is.

 

[Maverick]

Homesteads will be raided for many years after shtf, repeatedly. You wont get to just skip the looting/killing, raping, fire, diseases part of things.

Some will but many are difficult to get too as far as looting goes, diseases have always been with man same as the threats of fires, fires I deal with every year, I'm not overly concerned about looters or rapers getting up here on the property though I'm not complacent about it, we have other measures if they choose to travel all the way from the cities or suburbs to my area, even then I don't see anyone venturing out this way in large groups, maybe scouting party if that but I'm sure they would stop at the first site where the small wooden bridge once stood and then it would have to be by foot providing they can cross the white water rapids and even if they did that they would be exposed for two miles on the low ground with very little cover, going over land to avoid the road would be far too dangerous given they would have to scale three very noisy basalt cliffs that are very chossy, and loose and down two of them before the have to scale the tallest one not to mention on the previous two cliffs rappelling down would be within the crosshairs, very few people will have that knowledge plus endurance to tackle something like that.

 

[user 7704]

after a year, there wont be any gauntlet, cause nearly everyone will be dead. People lived for millenia without electricity, folks, and without metal tools for nearly all of that. Metal roofing, siding, piping and tools wont be going anywhere. I aint tying up thousands of dollars in tools for which I have no need in normal life, and for which I'll have no need post shtf, until I've survived over a year, set up real food production, etc. That stuff is WAY down the road in the way of preps. Very few can handle a knife wielding punk in the parking lot, TONIGHT, yet are all concerned about Amish style living. Homesteads will be raided for many years after shtf, repeatedly. You wont get to just skip the looting/killing, raping, fire, diseases part of things.

 

[user 7704]

I don't know what you are prepping for the, but there are lots of shtf scenarios where you won't have to be underground such as hurricanes, tornadoes, etc. Every disaster doesn't have to be a zombie apocalypse.

 

[Dani]

Too to am gathering non electric tools. I much prefer them over the electric kitchen gadgets anyway. I have not used an electric can opener since I was a kid. The mechanical does just fine. Also will never give up my Sauce Maker, my milk separator or fruit press all hand operated. The only real appliances I would truly miss would be my Kitchen Aid Mixer with attachments and milking machine. My carpal tunnel gets too bad for hand milking the cows. . . goats are not a problem, go figure. I do have one of those hand mixers that can be cranked, found at a flea market. Right now it hangs in the kitchen as a decoration. As for hand tools, my hunny is a collector. Hand tools have been passed on from his dad and when mine passed, mom told us to clean out the garage and shed. Some of those were my grandfathers. You can rely on non electric items more than the things that have a motor.

As for the people who do not want to waste their money on these items now thinking you can collect them after a SHTF situation. . . just remember that you will have to stay alive for however long before you can venture out to retrieve these items. Some of these things will make your life much easier, like a can opener. And I'll tell you now, anyone coming around here looking to loot will be shot. Reminds me of our welfare. . . always wanting to take someone else's.

 

[Psalm7]

I hit the flemarkets from time to time just to find old hand tools like hand planes , matox , ax,s , post hole diggers , etc . Some times you can make a offer on the lot and get $100's worth of tools for a few bucks . One ole Gent I buy tools for use to say yea that'll be a goodun to clean up and hang on the wall untill I let Him know I still use hand tools . He just said I use to use em .
One thing to remember about your gear , equipment in a survibal situation is 2 is 1 and 1 is none . So have multiplies.