i got 2 things of para cord,in 2 different sizes.in which i bought to braid pull backs for the curtains we have in the breakfest room....the open one is 50 LB'S,if i remember right..the one still in the packaging,is 30 LB'S...and as yall can see.things are working out pretty good with it.plus,mom likes it..i also have a app on my nook called Knots 3D..in which i found a knot called,back splice.in which it comes out looking like square and/or round braiding..