Remember the freaky "mystery fog?"

[Magus]

It left seed.


I have seen several of these so chances are there is something to it!

 

[Binky]

I have a theory about the world wide dirty fog, but I don't think there's a big connection between that and any fires occurring on land. I think the guy in the video is clutching at straws trying to make a connection between the fog and fires.

Have you ever heard of the Axial Seamount? It's an active underwater volcano in the Pacific Ocean 300 miles off the coast of Oregon that is predicted to erupt rather violently sometime in 2025, sometime imminent anyway.

But in the meantime it has already been slowly dribbling and leaking lava and volcanic particles, minerals, etc. and a variety of toxic vapours from small fissures in the sea floor and has been doing that for several weeks to months. Here is the most recent news (from 2 or 3 days ago) about the Axial Seamount.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/mile-long-underwater-volcano-erupt-off-west-coast/story?id=118217346

We had the same fog here too, but it was much earlier than late December, I think I posted about the fog at the time (November??) in the weather thread here. So, my theory about the dirty fog (it dirtied up things here too) is that it's a result of ongoing evaporatives coming from the warming Pacific Ocean in the region of the Axial Seamount. It was a very warm fog and still, cumulative and settled in place while we had it here until the northern jet stream moved it along. All of the other places around the globe that got the fog are all places that are in line with the curving sine wave pattern of the jet stream as it becomes more extreme in winter.

The freezing polar vortex that all of North America has experienced in the past couple of weeks or so was delivered by the jet stream so the extent of it's reach should give you an idea of how it could also have been delivering an abnormal fog of particles and vapours from the Pacific.

I'm not concerned about the sulphuric smell and taste of the short lasting fog that was delivered to so many places. It didn't last long and it seems the worst damage it did was the dirty deposits of ash-like particles it left on land and structures.

I would be more concerned about what will be delivered to the world in a fog, by the jet stream, when the Axial Seamount erupts violently and totally blows its load of heat, molten materials and particles, and toxic vapours into the Pacific Ocean water and thence into the atmosphere as fog.

That's my theory and until proven otherwise I'm sticking to it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when the Axial Seamount blows her top.

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[RJ2019]

I have a theory about the world wide dirty fog, but I don't think there's a big connection between that and any fires occurring on land. I think the guy in the video is clutching at straws trying to make a connection between the fog and fires.

Have you ever heard of the Axial Seamount? It's an active underwater volcano in the Pacific Ocean 300 miles off the coast of Oregon that is predicted to erupt rather violently sometime in 2025, sometime imminent anyway.

But in the meantime it has already been slowly dribbling and leaking lava and volcanic particles, minerals, etc. and a variety of toxic vapours from small fissures in the sea floor and has been doing that for several weeks to months. Here is the most recent news (from 2 or 3 days ago) about the Axial Seamount.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/mile-long-underwater-volcano-erupt-off-west-coast/story?id=118217346

We had the same fog here too, but it was much earlier than late December, I think I posted about the fog at the time (November??) in the weather thread here. So, my theory about the dirty fog (it dirtied up things here too) is that it's a result of ongoing evaporatives coming from the warming Pacific Ocean in the region of the Axial Seamount. It was a very warm fog and still, cumulative and settled in place while we had it here until the northern jet stream moved it along. All of the other places around the globe that got the fog are all places that are in line with the curving sine wave pattern of the jet stream as it becomes more extreme in winter.

The freezing polar vortex that all of North America has experienced in the past couple of weeks or so was delivered by the jet stream so the extent of it's reach should give you an idea of how it could also have been delivering an abnormal fog of particles and vapours from the Pacific.

I'm not concerned about the sulphuric smell and taste of the short lasting fog that was delivered to so many places. It didn't last long and it seems the worst damage it did was the dirty deposits of ash-like particles it left on land and structures.

I would be more concerned about what will be delivered to the world in a fog, by the jet stream, when the Axial Seamount erupts violently and totally blows its load of heat, molten materials and particles, and toxic vapours into the Pacific Ocean water and thence into the atmosphere as fog.

That's my theory and until proven otherwise I'm sticking to it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when the Axial Seamount blows her top.

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Fascinating, thanks for the link. That was a fun read.

 

[Binky]

Fascinating, thanks for the link. That was a fun read.

Thank you and here's another link for you that with your own geographic location and proximity to the coast you'd want to know about.

Just for the record, It isn't called fog, it's called vog, which means volcanic smog coming from underwater volcanoes or magma from above ground flowing into the ocean.

It does pose some health and environmental hazards just like a surface volcanic eruption poses, this link below from USGS explains about that.

If any people who were exposed to the "fog" that this thread is about (which was likely actually vog) got sick it will be because of the sulfuric acid and other toxic vapours and particles that they were breathing in when exposed.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of exposed people had eye problems at the very least even if not notably with their respiratory systems. Those miniscule volcanic particles floating on the air are actually miniscule particles of sharp glass and other mineral crystals dust.

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-health-hazards-are-posed-vog-volcanic-smog#:~:text=Vog (volcanic smog) is a,oxygen, moisture, and dust.

 

[Michele My Belle]

Thank you and here's another link for you that with your own geographic location and proximity to the coast you'd want to know about.

Just for the record, It isn't called fog, it's called vog, which means volcanic smog coming from underwater volcanoes or magma from above ground flowing into the ocean.

It does pose some health and environmental hazards just like a surface volcanic eruption poses, this link below from USGS explains about that.

If any people who were exposed to the "fog" that this thread is about (which was likely actually vog) got sick it will be because of the sulfuric acid and other toxic vapours and particles that they were breathing in when exposed.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of exposed people had eye problems at the very least even if not notably with their respiratory systems. Those miniscule volcanic particles floating on the air are actually miniscule particles of sharp glass and other mineral crystals dust.

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-health-hazards-are-posed-vog-volcanic-smog#:~:text=Vog (volcanic smog) is a,oxygen, moisture, and dust.

Thank you for this resource !!
The internal link also gives the current Air Quality and Historical Air Quality. (by State) Fabulous!!
https://www.airnow.gov/state/?name=new-jersey

 

[Haertig]

It does sound like the "vog" (yes, with a "v") that they have in Hawaii from the frequently erupting Kilauea volcano on the Big Island. My daughter is always telling me about it.

 

[Michele My Belle]

Naples Florida lab sample said it was a Rare Opportunistic Nosocomial Bacterial Pathogen
Serratia Marcescens, historically found in hospital infections from patient's stomachs.
Not sure how it could be grown in such a number/quantity, stored and sprayed over so many different cities.
Can be killed by cleaning surfaces with a mixture of baking soda and dish soap.

As in the earlier video, sulfur dioxide gives longevity to Serratia Marcescens.
The Navy (as directed by infamous Sydney Gottleib) sprayed this over 800,000 unsuspecting people in San Francisco
sometime in the 1950s.
11 of these people documented their similar symptoms, ultimately resulting in UTIs and discharging tiny crystals.

 

[Magus]

the Axial Seamount

So when this thing goes boom, are we looking at tsunamis, An ash cloud like St. Helen's or just Gaia farting in her sleep?

 

[Binky]

So when this thing goes boom, are we looking at tsunamis, An ash cloud like St. Helen's or just Gaia farting in her sleep?

No tsunami unless the eruption is accompanied by an actual high magnitude earthquake, however, a strong earthquake at that location might precede an eruption and a tsunami because the volcano sits directly over top of the meeting of two tectonic plates that regularly rub together and sometimes slip, slide and separate from each other by approximately 2 inches and then slide back together again. It's called an ocean spreading center. The two plates that the volcano sits over are the Pacific Plate and the Juan de Fuca Plate. There is actually more than one volcano running along the ridge.

There would be no ash cloud like St. Helens because of suppression from the water above it, the volcano is one mile beneath the ocean's surface. So although it is presently what's called a quiet black smoker that is steadily producing incontinent dribbles of magma on the floor of its caldera and is producing vog above the surface of the water, a very strong eruption would be more like Gaia getting a sudden bad case of food poisoning resulting in violent stomach cramps, the runny trots and 'vogging' rather profusely. She won't be getting any sleep through all of that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_Seamount#:~:text=Tectonic setting,-Position of Axial&text=de Fuca Ridge.-,Axial Seamount is the youngest volcano and current eruptive center,298 mi) west of Oregon.

...... Axial Seamount is the youngest volcano and current eruptive center of the Cobb–Eickelberg Seamount chain, a chain of seamounts that terminates south of Alaska.[6] Axial lies where the chain intersects with the Juan de Fuca Ridge,[7] approximately 480 km (298 mi) west of Oregon. It is a product of the Cobb hotspot, but now sits on an ocean spreading center between the Juan de Fuca plate and the Pacific Plate,[8] offset by the Blanco fracture zone to the south and a ridge-built triple junction to the north.....

 

[Mountain trapper]

It was foggy here today. Nothing mysterious or sinister about it, just fog.