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Huge losses yesterday on NYSE 4.4 % according to the BBc the markets big one day loss ever, Equal losses overnight on Asian markets, same in Australia, and the London stock exchange is nose diving as soon as it opened at 8AM UK time.

The money men are really panicking over the impact on economies because of the virus outbreak
 
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the stock exchange panics about anything.
This is more than your average panic, the futures are all down again for today too. About 3000 points for the Dow so far. On Monday I decided to roll over my old 401k. It takes two to three days before they actually do it, so I’m waiting to see how much I lost from their slow administrative actions. My plan is to just let it sit in the holding account of my current brokerage and then buy back in when the dust settles. I was allready in mostly conservative investments so don’t expect a huge loss, but am eager to see the final tally.
 
Gold is not skyrocketing, so there isn't THAT much fear in the market yet. That usually means investors are expecting a bottom soon and are looking for buying opportunities. If they thought the market will keep going down they would be flocking to safe havens.
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To me the biggest surprise is why did it take so long to react? When the Chinese manufacturing took a hit from the virus, that should have sparked the sell off as other industries around the world would have shortage of parts to assemble their products resulting in slow down and layoff at many factories around the world. I expected to see the sell off much sooner as worldwide supplies would be effected. I do not see a turn back around until the full impact of the virus is known. There are many out there that is making a fortune on this down turn. There is a huge opportunity to make a lot of money but you have to know when the market is turning around which is where the average investor ends up loosing their shirts.

Brent has it right. At this point, you have to sit it out. Too late to try to sell now. The damage has been down. You don't loose money in the stock market until you sell. Just wait it out.

Of course, this may just be the start. Hopefully it is only the virus and it's impact on production that is guiding the selloff. If the Democrats win big in November, then it will most likely be long term as NO company want to put up with the Democrats tax increases and regulations. They will pack up and move first. With Trumps tax decrease in taxes and regulations, business moved to the US. With the Democrats increases, they will flee.
 
To me the biggest surprise is why did it take so long to react? When the Chinese manufacturing took a hit from the virus, that should have sparked the sell off as other industries around the world would have shortage of parts to assemble their products resulting in slow down and layoff at many factories around the world. I expected to see the sell off much sooner as worldwide supplies would be effected. I do not see a turn back around until the full impact of the virus is known. There are many out there that is making a fortune on this down turn. There is a huge opportunity to make a lot of money but you have to know when the market is turning around which is where the average investor ends up loosing their shirts.

Brent has it right. At this point, you have to sit it out. Too late to try to sell now. The damage has been down. You don't loose money in the stock market until you sell. Just wait it out.

Of course, this may just be the start. Hopefully it is only the virus and it's impact on production that is guiding the selloff. If the Democrats win big in November, then it will most likely be long term as NO company want to put up with the Democrats tax increases and regulations. They will pack up and move first. With Trumps tax decrease in taxes and regulations, business moved to the US. With the Democrats increases, they will flee.
I agree I’m surprised the market and the world didn’t react sooner too. Nothing like waiting to the last minute to begin to prepare
 
Gold is not skyrocketing, so there isn't THAT much fear in the market yet. That usually means investors are expecting a bottom soon and are looking for buying opportunities. If they thought the market will keep going down they would be flocking to safe havens.

Dow up 1294, Gold almost no change. Damn I could have made some money on that call!

But tomorrow brings a new day...
 
I was a homeless teen and it took me decades to put together the life I have now. I was good at saving my acorns and never trusted my money to others, especially when I know the system is rigged, so I avoid the stock market and don't know much about it. Aren't people able to short the market and still make money when it goes down?
 
Is there a time frame you HAVE TO go by when you short? Just seems to me like the folks who know the news before the rest of us can short the market, cause a sell off, then buy everyone's panic, and ride it back up with "good news" again like we have seen in the last five days. Seems you have to be in the know, or really lucky to not have your money taken from you by the 1%.
 
Is there a time frame you HAVE TO go by when you short?

Short Selling means borrowing a stock and selling it, then buying it back when the market drops, and keeping the difference between what you sold it for and what you bought it back for. How long you have to cover the short depends on who you borrowed it from. They can ask for it back at any time they choose, but to do so too often could damage their reputation. So normally it is up to the borrower when they return it except for certain circumstances.

"Naked Short Selling" means selling a stock you have not borrowed yet. It is not technically illegal, but it is very risky.

"Abusive Naked Short Selling" means using Naked Short Selling to manipulate the market.
 
Thanks DrHenley. is it a common thing? I can't believe we have to actually have legislation that says insider trading is illegal for elected officials. I wish we had some kind of watchdog that followed the trading of our leaders, but I guess they would just have others make their moves. There is NO WAY people like Pelosi made $100 million during her time in office without some serious insider trading/deals. Well, I guess she is in the state of the $100 Billion bullet train to nowhere. I think that season of True Detectives covered it pretty well. Insane how much pilfering there is by the decision makers.
 
There are many ways to manipulate the market to make money. I just try to buy good, short-term and long-term investment stocks or mutual funds as part of an overall strategy to be prepared for WHATEVER may happen, whether or not SHTF tomorrow or 100 years from now.
 
I took my 401K out of the mutual fund I was in just before the first big drop. It took them a couple days to actually process the transaction and I took a minor 200.00 loss from that first day. Right now the funds are just sitting in a holding account and are likely to do that for a while now. At some point when I feel the turmoil is over I will buy back in. I am not making any interest but am fine with that for the stability I have. I don’t think we are anywhere near the bottom yet. The loss of commerce this bug is causing will have a huge impact on the economy across most sectors. All the big banks are stating they expect a big impact from it. Cruise lines and airlines are allready hit hard and some have lost 50% of their value allready. No one has the proverbial crystal ball but my bet is to hang on for a rough ride for a while yet. We will come through this like other financially difficult times but I expect this will be a tough year.
 

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