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The house is a bit crowded these days and I am considering moving some things out to the garage. I started to research what could and couldn't be stored in an unheated detached building in the Midwest where it gets over 100 and below zero. I found the following: I have not included everything but I am sure there are other ideas, did not include things like "air freshener".
The "YES" list.
Razors
Laundry Products
Wipes
Cleaning Supplies( I would think liquids would freeze)
Soap
Liquid Hand Soap
Shampoo and Conditioner
Paper Products
Toothbrushes and Toothpaste
Body Wash( will freeze buy maybe be ok?)
Band-Aids-I would not recommend, the sticky part deteriorates.
The "NO" list.
Lotion ( it all separates in the heat and will never be the same)
Deodorant(stick kind melt just keep it upright, not sure about aerosols)
Batteries
Diaper’s
Candles ( don't care if they are bending as long as they burn)
Medicine
Food, canned or boxed or otherwise!
The question I have is, Can't some food items be stored in a detached nontemp controlled building??????
 
I would think that properly sealed and preserved containers of dry goods, like rice, dry pasta, cereals, dry beans, etc. would be fine.

I haven't had issues with mine. (other than switching to metal drums, because rodents will destroy a plastic one).... Though I haven't seen them get through the heavy duty plastic ones (one of my boarders uses it for their horse's grain).

I mean, our ancestors did it, prior to electricity.
 
Not counting the house/basement store. This is what I have in a tandem axle cargo trailer not listing food cots tents bedroll hygiene, big cook stove, wood stove firstaid etc.. Food, batteries and fuel gets rotated, all rechargeable's are kept charged. Think of it as the big daddy to the I.N.C.H. bag. The cargo trailer was originally set up to supplement the cabin (BOL) but the 'what if' such as not being able to make it to the cabin so we added to the trailer. The trailer is stored in the shop which keeps a somewhat comfortable temp

(3) 55gal 150gal drinking water

(1) Generator
(7) 5gal fuel (back of truck when driving)
(1) 5gal white fuel (back of truck when driving)
(3) 5gal kerosene (back of truck when driving)

x3 Boafeng Ham Radio
x4 Midland Radio
x2 Cobra Radio
Coast LL7438 LED Light (30hrs)
x5 Emergency hand crank/solar Radio
LED Lenser P6 8606 Light (8hrs)
Magellan GPS
Sony Pocket AM/FM Radio (30hrs)
x2 Dorcy 41-2510 LED Flashlight (9hrs)
x4 Black Diamond Storm headlamp
x2 Streamlight 66118 Stylus Pro
x2 Streamlight 66318 MicroStream
x5 Fenix E01
x2 Streamlight 44941 Siege Lantern (SL44941000)
Energizer Weatheready 360 Degree LED Area Lantern (WRLMF35E)
Streamlight 44931 The Siege LED Lantern (STR44905)
UST 30-Day LED Lantern (20-PL20C3D-08)
Rayovac Sportsman 240 Lumen LED Lantern (SE3DLNACOM)
100 Cyalume SnapLight 12hr
(18) 100 Hour Plus Emergency Candle, Clear Mist (75days)
(144) Luminessence Emergency Candles, 6-ct. Packs 4.5hrs (648hrs)

Batterie
(256) AAA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(168) AA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(100) 'D' cell Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(40) AA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Duracell)
(80) 123A
Rechargable Batteries
(60) AAA Eneloop Ni-MH 2100 batteries
(66) AA Eneloop Ni-MH 2100 batteries
(16) Eneloop D Size Spacers
(8) Eneloop C Size Spacers

(6) Solar panels and chargers for AA/AAA/ batteries radios/cell phone lights,frig etc..

(4) 20lb propane tanks
(4) 30lb propane tanks
(12) 1lb propane bottles
(8) Gas Canisters butane/propane blend (8oz canisters)
(12) Gas Canisters butane (8oz)
(1) Gas One single burner duel fuel stove (propane/butane)
(1) Coleman 3b propane stove w/bulk hose
(1) Colman propane lantern w/bulk tank tree
(1) Mr Heater Buddy heater w/hose
(4) 12" kerosene lanterns
(2) 10" kerosene lanterns
(2) ultralight stoves (butane/propane blend)

(44) Reliance Double Doodie Plus Large Toilet Waste Bags (36days)
(180) Charmin Ultra Strong Toilet Paper rolls
(3) Portable 5 Gallon Toilet
(54) scotts Soft Tissues, White, 120ct
(32) Bounty Big Roll White Paper Towels
(2) Kirkland Trash Bags, 30 Gallon, 250 Count
(3) husky contractors bags 50 count

5.56 5060
30/06 1000
40S&W 3000
12ga 1200
22cal 5000
 
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My mom has a walk in pantry outside that she keeps commercially canned goods, bags of beans and rice, paper goods, things like that, but she is taking a major risk not putting the bags of food in buckets with tight fitting lids. Even the paper goods should be stored in buckets or garbage pails. With our humidity her can goods will eventually rust so it's not a long term solution.
 
Maverick said:
Not counting the house/basement store. This is what I have in a tandem axle cargo trailer not listing food cots tents bedroll hygiene, big cook stove, wood stove firstaid etc.. Food, batteries and fuel gets rotated, all rechargeable's are kept charged. Think of it as the big daddy to the I.N.C.H. bag. The cargo trailer was originally set up to supplement the cabin (BOL) but the 'what if' such as not being able to make it to the cabin so we added to the trailer. The trailer is stored in the shop which keeps a somewhat comfortable temp

(3) 55gal 150gal drinking water

(1) Generator
(7) 5gal fuel (back of truck when driving)
(1) 5gal white fuel (back of truck when driving)
(3) 5gal kerosene (back of truck when driving)

x3 Boafeng Ham Radio
x4 Midland Radio
x2 Cobra Radio
Coast LL7438 LED Light (30hrs)
x5 Emergency hand crank/solar Radio
LED Lenser P6 8606 Light (8hrs)
Magellan GPS
Sony Pocket AM/FM Radio (30hrs)
x2 Dorcy 41-2510 LED Flashlight (9hrs)
x4 Black Diamond Storm headlamp
x2 Streamlight 66118 Stylus Pro
x2 Streamlight 66318 MicroStream
x5 Fenix E01
x2 Streamlight 44941 Siege Lantern (SL44941000)
Energizer Weatheready 360 Degree LED Area Lantern (WRLMF35E)
Streamlight 44931 The Siege LED Lantern (STR44905)
UST 30-Day LED Lantern (20-PL20C3D-08)
Rayovac Sportsman 240 Lumen LED Lantern (SE3DLNACOM)
100 Cyalume SnapLight 12hr
(18) 100 Hour Plus Emergency Candle, Clear Mist (75days)
(144) Luminessence Emergency Candles, 6-ct. Packs 4.5hrs (648hrs)

Batterie
(256) AAA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(168) AA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(100) 'D' cell Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(40) AA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Duracell)
(80) 123A
Rechargable Batteries
(60) AAA Eneloop Ni-MH 2100 batteries
(66) AA Eneloop Ni-MH 2100 batteries
(16) Eneloop D Size Spacers
(8) Eneloop C Size Spacers

(6) Solar panels and chargers for AA/AAA/ batteries radios/cell phone lights,frig etc..

(4) 20lb propane tanks
(4) 30lb propane tanks
(12) 1lb propane bottles
(8) Gas Canisters butane/propane blend (8oz canisters)
(12) Gas Canisters butane (8oz)
(1) Gas One single burner duel fuel stove (propane/butane)
(1) Coleman 3b propane stove w/bulk hose
(1) Colman propane lantern w/bulk tank tree
(1) Mr Heater Buddy heater w/hose
(3) 2-1gal 1-2.5gal 1-k kerosene (4.5gals)
(4) 12" kerosene lanterns
(2) 10" kerosene lanterns
(2) ultralight stoves (butane/propane blend)

(44) Reliance Double Doodie Plus Large Toilet Waste Bags (36days)
(180) Charmin Ultra Strong Toilet Paper rolls
(3) Portable 5 Gallon Toilet
(54) scotts Soft Tissues, White, 120ct
(32) Bounty Big Roll White Paper Towels
(2) Kirkland Trash Bags, 30 Gallon, 250 Count
(3) husky contractors bags 50 count

5.56 5060
30/06 1000
40S&W 3000
12ga 1200
22cal 5000
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I don't know what half of this stuff is. I am looking into solar panels tbough. Where did you get the solar battery chargers?
 
robinjopo said:
I don't know what half of this stuff is. I am looking into solar panels tbough. Where did you get the solar battery chargers?
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Amazon

I got goal zero chargers and several other brands that charge from USB, the panels are Renogy 100w x6 with controller, I have a inverter with USB ports, the frig directly plugs on to the batteries, plus I have portable solar panels from goal zero and anker.

It’s just a simple setup to do a simple job and the only reason for the frig is that I would keep medication in such as all my antibiotics and other OTC/prescribed medication.
 
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Danil54grl said:
My mom has a walk in pantry outside that she keeps commercially canned goods, bags of beans and rice, paper goods, things like that, but she is taking a major risk not putting the bags of food in buckets with tight fitting lids. Even the paper goods should be stored in buckets or garbage pails. With our humidity her can goods will eventually rust so it's not a long term solution.
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Has anyone tried to put mineral oil on exposed aluminum to prevent rust when stored outside? Wondering if that would work or at least delay?
 
Danil54grl said:
Has anyone tried to put mineral oil on exposed aluminum to prevent rust when stored outside? Wondering if that would work or at least delay?
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Short term mineral oil is good as long as it’s not handled much, coating and let set it will work but not if it gets wet.
 
Maverick said:
Short term mineral oil is good as long as it’s not handled much, coating and let set it will work but not if it gets wet.
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I know there are products that you can use in the underside of your car to stop errotion and rust, but it would not be something I would put on a food can. Mineral oil was the only thing I could think of other than maybe paraffin wax but if that cracked it would let in moisture and then rust. Paraffin would most likely melt though. . . Yes kinda thinking out loud here
 
Danil54grl said:
Has anyone tried to put mineral oil on exposed aluminum to prevent rust when stored outside? Wondering if that would work or at least delay?
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Aluminum forms a thin oxide skin that is self limiting and protective unless you are in a corrosive or salty atmosphere. Let the skin form first (dull gray finish) before using any kind of barrier. I'd use something like Johnson Paste Wax. No need to buff...
 
DrHenley said:
Aluminum forms a thin oxide skin that is self limiting and protective unless you are in a corrosive or salty atmosphere. Let the skin form first (dull gray finish) before using any kind of barrier. I'd use something like Johnson Paste Wax. No need to buff...
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Do you think it would work on steel cans too and not melt with outside temps reaching close to 100 or a little over?
 
robinjopo said:
My experience.....i had home canned green beans stores in boxes in garage. Rings were removed.

A racoon (?) Pried open 14 quarts and spilled them everywhere.

Lesson learned.
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I remember that story. I had a coon in my car over the weekend and the window was only open 4 inches. Just enough for it to get in, he moved stuff around in there, left prints on the window. Also has been eating some of the apples off the tree. They will go into the garage and any other building I leave open at night.
 
Maverick said:
Not counting the house/basement store. This is what I have in a tandem axle cargo trailer not listing food cots tents bedroll hygiene, big cook stove, wood stove firstaid etc.. Food, batteries and fuel gets rotated, all rechargeable's are kept charged. Think of it as the big daddy to the I.N.C.H. bag. The cargo trailer was originally set up to supplement the cabin (BOL) but the 'what if' such as not being able to make it to the cabin so we added to the trailer. The trailer is stored in the shop which keeps a somewhat comfortable temp

(3) 55gal 150gal drinking water

(1) Generator
(7) 5gal fuel (back of truck when driving)
(1) 5gal white fuel (back of truck when driving)
(3) 5gal kerosene (back of truck when driving)

x3 Boafeng Ham Radio
x4 Midland Radio
x2 Cobra Radio
Coast LL7438 LED Light (30hrs)
x5 Emergency hand crank/solar Radio
LED Lenser P6 8606 Light (8hrs)
Magellan GPS
Sony Pocket AM/FM Radio (30hrs)
x2 Dorcy 41-2510 LED Flashlight (9hrs)
x4 Black Diamond Storm headlamp
x2 Streamlight 66118 Stylus Pro
x2 Streamlight 66318 MicroStream
x5 Fenix E01
x2 Streamlight 44941 Siege Lantern (SL44941000)
Energizer Weatheready 360 Degree LED Area Lantern (WRLMF35E)
Streamlight 44931 The Siege LED Lantern (STR44905)
UST 30-Day LED Lantern (20-PL20C3D-08)
Rayovac Sportsman 240 Lumen LED Lantern (SE3DLNACOM)
100 Cyalume SnapLight 12hr
(18) 100 Hour Plus Emergency Candle, Clear Mist (75days)
(144) Luminessence Emergency Candles, 6-ct. Packs 4.5hrs (648hrs)

Batterie
(256) AAA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(168) AA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(100) 'D' cell Alkaline Batteries on hand (Energizers)
(40) AA Alkaline Batteries on hand (Duracell)
(80) 123A
Rechargable Batteries
(60) AAA Eneloop Ni-MH 2100 batteries
(66) AA Eneloop Ni-MH 2100 batteries
(16) Eneloop D Size Spacers
(8) Eneloop C Size Spacers

(6) Solar panels and chargers for AA/AAA/ batteries radios/cell phone lights,frig etc..

(4) 20lb propane tanks
(4) 30lb propane tanks
(12) 1lb propane bottles
(8) Gas Canisters butane/propane blend (8oz canisters)
(12) Gas Canisters butane (8oz)
(1) Gas One single burner duel fuel stove (propane/butane)
(1) Coleman 3b propane stove w/bulk hose
(1) Colman propane lantern w/bulk tank tree
(1) Mr Heater Buddy heater w/hose
(4) 12" kerosene lanterns
(2) 10" kerosene lanterns
(2) ultralight stoves (butane/propane blend)

(44) Reliance Double Doodie Plus Large Toilet Waste Bags (36days)
(180) Charmin Ultra Strong Toilet Paper rolls
(3) Portable 5 Gallon Toilet
(54) scotts Soft Tissues, White, 120ct
(32) Bounty Big Roll White Paper Towels
(2) Kirkland Trash Bags, 30 Gallon, 250 Count
(3) husky contractors bags 50 count

5.56 5060
30/06 1000
40S&W 3000
12ga 1200
22cal 5000
Click to expand...
You must have 30 grand invested. Totally out of reach for me, just a dream. I wish I could.
 
brandx said:
You must have 30 grand invested. Totally out of reach for me, just a dream. I wish I could.
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This was done over time, the cargo trailer I got by trading a two stall horse trailer, the horse trailer I got for cutting down 3 trees. Generally I purchase certain things I purchase in twos. Also, some things I can’t keep at the cabin and that’s what the trailer was for, mobile storage for the cabin.
 
Maverick said:
This was done over time, the cargo trailer I got by trading a two stall horse trailer, the horse trailer I got for cutting down 3 trees. Generally I purchase certain things I purchase in twos. Also, some things I can’t keep at the cabin and that’s what the trailer was for, mobile storage for the cabin.
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Well, you have my admiration for your prepping abilities and congrats on your accumulation.
 
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brandx said:
I remember that story. I had a coon in my car over the weekend and the window was only open 4 inches. Just enough for it to get in, he moved stuff around in there, left prints on the window. Also has been eating some of the apples off the tree. They will go into the garage and any other building I leave open at night.
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They can get in tiny spaces. The one that killed my chickens got into a space about 3 inches. He could only get the chicken head out.
 
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