Tanker & ship collide in North Sea

[Magpie]

https://news.sky.com/story/coastgua...argo-ship-have-collided-in-north-sea-13325739

A number of people abandoned the vessels following the collision around 13 miles from the coast.

All those from the oil tanker are said to be "safe and fully accounted for", however jet fuel has been released into the sea, according to the firm that manages the vessel.

Thirty two casualties were brought ashore, Martyn Boyers, chief executive of the Port of Grimsby East, said.

Mr Boyers said 13 casualties were brought in on a Windcat 33 high-speed vessel, followed by another 19 on a harbour pilot boat.

He added that there were reports of a "massive fireball".

 

[Alaskajohn]

Casualties at this point are at 32. Looks to be a huge mess and tragedy.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/live/oil-...Ob5EkpThIf1y2phLK3SAMw_V-j3pqaq1jZ66gfaaBFI_6

 

[havasu]

A big event!

I just have no idea where this area is located. I should have paid more attention in my geography class.

 

[Alaskajohn]

A big event!

I just have no idea where this area is located. I should have paid more attention in my geography class.

The location is apparently just offshore from Hull. It’s a very busy port area. When I would visit England when I was in Europe, we would load our car on the ferry from Rotterdam to Hull. Always full of ships everywhere.

 

[havasu]

Thank you for my much needed geography lesson.

 

[Tirediron]

what electronic system failed for this to happen ? of is it just plain old human error?

 

[kd4ulw]

I’m going to work on a system to locate objects using radio waves, I’m thinking of calling it RADAR. It might even work at night and in bad weather.

 

[Neb]

I’m going to work on a system to locate objects using radio waves, I’m thinking of calling it RADAR. It might even work at night and in bad weather.

Better idea would use the radio waves to cook Hot Pockets. More money in it.

Ben

 

[Binky]

Well this whole event is altogether a nasty thing! An environmental disaster in both the sea and in the air (via the smoke).

The cargo ship was carrying 15 large containers of toxic sodium cyanide.

The tanker was transporting jet fuel.

 

[Binky]

what electronic system failed for this to happen ? of is it just plain old human error?

According to the most recent news reports I looked at, that is not known yet. People rescued from both ships are reporting that both vessels just suddenly slammed head on into each other doing 15 knots and seemingly both coming out of nowhere.

 

[Quark]

Too much automation and too few crew. Most likely the bridge crew of one or two was distracted or asleep. Based on the tracking the container ship was on auto pilot on a straight path at 16 knots full speed ahead. The container ship does this run from Scotland to The Netherlands day in and day out on this track and never expected another ship to be anchored on this track. By the time anyone on the container ship realized what was happening it was to late to do anything. There are no breaks on a ship/boat.

 

[Quark]

According to the most recent news reports I looked at, that is not known yet. People rescued from both ships are reporting that both vessels just suddenly slammed head on into each other doing 15 knots and seemingly both coming out of nowhere.

The tanker was anchored waiting to head into port. The container ship was on a straight track for The Netherlands. The container ship T-boned the tanker on the port side it looks like. The container ship never expected another ship to be anchored on that track.

 

[Tirediron]

So now the question is was this an on purpose release of chemicals or just another failure due to the reliance on technology.

 

[Binky]

The tanker was anchored waiting to head into port. The container ship was on a straight track for The Netherlands. The container ship T-boned the tanker on the port side it looks like. The container ship never expected another ship to be anchored on that track.

Thank you. So sounds like there is some confusion with press releases about what happened.

 

[Magus]

And the environment gets the bone as usual.

 

[Magus]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-flagged-tanker-collides-container-ship-near-uk

 

[Caribou]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-flagged-tanker-collides-container-ship-near-uk

Headlines, U.S. tanker collides with freighter. The tanker was anchored, the freighter collided with it.

My first thought was, who was operating the freighter? I don’t trust coincidences. Those radars have alarms that you can set at any distance you want. I set mine at 6 miles. It is common practice for ships to set their autopilot on when in the open ocean, set the alarm on the radar, and really not to pay too much attention to what is going on. Being that close to shore is NOT open ocean. The skipper and the officer of the watch should loose their licenses. This was either an attack or a major screwup. One way they go to jail, the other they never work in the industry again.

 

[Quark]

My information come primarily from What The Ship by Sal Mercogliano a professor of marine history, marine archeologist and a former licensed mariner of about 10+ years at sea working primarily for the US Navy.

I also watched a video by a licensed yacht captain and cruise ship mariner.

Based on marine traffic the container ship was not expecting another ship anchored on their track. There most likely was not more than one maybe two crew members on the bridge. There was fog and the ship was going to fast and most likely on auto pilot and nobody was paying attention not expecting another ship to be on that track. That is my best guess based the two people above.

 

[Caribou]

My information come primarily from What The Ship by Sal Mercogliano a professor of marine history, marine archeologist and a former licensed mariner of about 10+ years at sea working primarily for the US Navy.

I also watched a video by a licensed yacht captain and cruise ship mariner.

Based on marine traffic the container ship was not expecting another ship anchored on their track. There most likely was not more than one maybe two crew members on the bridge. There was fog and the ship was going to fast and most likely on auto pilot and nobody was paying attention not expecting another ship to be on that track. That is my best guess based the two people above.

That is a heavily trafficed area. They were approaching the coast and an area where ships anchor waiting their turn in port. There was fog so there was a double reason to have someone watching the radar.

 

[Quark]

According to the WSJ the UK Coast Guard is looking into the container ship being on autopilot and if anybody was actually on the bridge of the container ship. UK is reporting that all 36 crew members of both ships have been safely evacuated and only one crew member has been hospitalized. Good news there.

 

[Quark]

Latest update on ship collision in UK from What The Ship by Sal.

 

[lonewolf]

reports this morning say one crew member is missing.

 

[Quark]

reports this morning say one crew member is missing.

All 36 crews members accounted for and one in the hospital.

 

[lonewolf]

I can only say what I heard, one crew member is missing .

 

[Quark]

I can only say what I heard, one crew member is missing .

The UK and the ship companies especially Crowley the owner of the tanker has said their crew members are all accounted for and alive. The one crew member sent to the hospital is from the container ship. There were a total of 36 crew members, 23 on the tanker and 18 on the container.

 

[lonewolf]

said on the news channel this morning that one crew member is missing and unaccounted for.

 

[Magpie]

Yes as @lonewolf says, one unaccounted for, they stood down the search. Can't believe they managed to evacuate everyone with no burns/injuries.
It's sure to have a knock on affect though - and god knows the region is neglected at the best of times.

 

[lonewolf]

the missing crew member is off the container ship, 14 crew members 13 rescued one missing.
I think the jet fuel burns off faster than say Crude oil like the Torrey Canyon.

 

[Magus]

Latest update on ship collision in UK from What The Ship by Sal.

Defense tanker?
Some little prick is making a political statement!

 

[lonewolf]

it said it was carrying jet fuel for the US Army.