Train derailment

[Dani]

JD Vance suggests the EPA drinks the East Palestine tap water to prove it's safe.

I'm in full agreement!

 

[Dani]

 

[dicksteel]

 

[dicksteel]

 

[Dani]

I believe this is the same woman I saw in a Glenn Beck interview. She was given a contract to go onto the property to do testing, but at the bottom was a "Hold Harmless" agreement, but she did not sign. IF this is the same one, she said on the Glenn Beck interview, there was already over 300 signers. She said the number and I want to say 340 but I may be off exact number.

 

[Dani]

 

[Mountain trapper]

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I don't understand why people speak about things when they have no knowledge and don't even bother researching it.

Having modern safety measures is not only cost effective, it's sensible. Small investments in safety prevent expensive disasters, protect lives, protect the environment, and those investments are spread over so many people they cost almost nothing. Pennys.

Do you think replacing a worn out train axle is more, or less expensive than the billions of dollars this accident will cost to clean up? Seems to me, with 100+ train derailments annually and the fact trains carry such chemicals, we'd spend every penny necessary to ensure safety. These disasters are extremely expensive and bad.

FYI it is the government that is so inept and corrupt that it causes some of these issues. In this case, it's my understanding that the Biden administration interfered with train union labor negotiations making a strike illegal. In December 2022. Now perhaps it's unrelated. But one could make the connection that tired, underpaid, inadequate sick days, understaffed, disgruntled train workers failed to do their jobs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/02/bid...er-strike-despite-lack-of-paid-sick-days.html

Fair enough. It's obvious that you know nothing either, other than what you can get off the internet. I don't have internet service where I live and I don't have time to sit around watching the news.
One thing I am a little familiar with is property values. I know first hand what it's like to lose the value of a piece of property. Several years ago a fire swept through my area burning over 300,000 acres. One of my properties was in the middle of this fire. It was a large tract of timber and grazing land, every tree, twig and blade of grass burned. I lost 100% of value in that property. It'll take a couple generations before that timber comes back to marketable value, but it will recover. Sure, it wasn't a chemical fire, but it was still financially devastating to me and my family. It was going to be part of my grandkids inheritance.
Nobody from the government came showering me with money over my loss, nor would I have accepted it.
Given time the earth will heal itself.

 

[MrLemonade]

It's obvious that you know nothing either, other than what you can get off the internet.

Am I expected to be omniscient? Yes, I read the "internet" for information. How else would I get it, telepathy? One does have to be discerning and get info from reliable sources, granted.

One thing I am a little familiar with is property values. I know first hand what it's like to lose the value of a piece of property. Several years ago a fire swept through my area burning over 300,000 acres.

Curious but wouldn't insurance cover such a loss?

 

[Proud Prepper]

Mr lemonade and Arcticdude are talking about 2 similar effects caused by 2 completely different causes. I believe there both correct in there own context.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Am I expected to be omniscient? Yes, I read the "internet" for information. How else would I get it, telepathy? One does have to be discerning and get info from reliable sources, granted.


Curious but wouldn't insurance cover such a loss?

I guess your right about the benefits of the internet for news. If we could get it here I'd have it too. But then I'd have figure out how to make more time in a day.
Nope. No insurance on my land. Not sure if it's even available. This fire was Man caused. An old man was pulling a trailer on the highway when one of the wheels on the trailer over heated and came off the hub. It started a grass fire, then burned up in to the timber and over the mountain. My property was 20 miles from where the fire started. I suppose I could have sued this guy, but it was just an accident. No point in destroying his life over it. I don't think anyone else sued him either.

 

[Proud Prepper]

I guess your right about the benefits of the internet for news. If we could get it here I'd have it too. But then I'd have figure out how to make more time in a day.
Nope. No insurance on my land. Not sure if it's even available. This fire was Man caused. An old man was pulling a trailer on the highway when one of the wheels on the trailer over heated and came off the hub. It started a grass fire, then burned up in to the timber and over the mountain. My property was 20 miles from where the fire started. I suppose I could have sued this guy, but it was just an accident. No point in destroying his life over it. I don't think anyone else sued him either.

That's a terrible circumstance. That was an accident as you said. The train derailment in Ohio was negligence at best and then the setting on fire and poor handling of the derailment was deliberate. The treatment of the residents there is unconscionable.

 

[bill harrell]

Given the FACTS that animals and fish are dying suddenly, it's de facto toxic. Regardless of the name.

But we know it's toxic. Chemists and Chemical Engineers have said as much. Further, one of the chemicals is Phosgene. That is reportedly a WWI chemical weapon used in gas attacks. It's lethal.

As to your analogy, I'll drink out of plastic or Styrofoam but that doesn't mean I want to burn it and stand over the fire breathing the toxic gases or liquify it and drink it. I'll wear plastics. I don't want to inhale them.
Teflon is considered safe to cook on when baked onto pans, but the chemical process to make Teflon is very lethal, for instance. Do you seriously not understand chemicals can go thru different stages of safe or unsafe when in different forms or when combined with other chemicals? How is your PVC analogy even sensible?

 

[bill harrell]

Plastics deteriate over time. If you don't believe it your headlights will still be bright after 5 or 6 years. Your pvc pipes determinate also, wonder where those toxic chemicals went, they probably evaporated. So us using lead solder on pipes is safe?. Don't assume that everyone you talk to is an idiot. Wasn't that the experts that told you follow the science and get vaccinated. I hope their degree from cal-poly tech means they are right and good sound wisdom and a great track record are wrong when you are betting your life on it. Cause ,sometimes you are.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

You’ve missed an important aspect. The FACT that these toxins have already been spread east and is going into the Ohio River to boot!

Consider this…

Now, take a gander just how MINUSCULE an amount it take to harm humans and animals!

(Natural News) The massive chemical dioxin plume created by the “controlled explosion” at the site of the East Palestine, Ohio, train derailment will contaminate the food supply in ways that most people could never imagine.

Dioxins, a chemical byproduct of the burning of vinyl chloride and other chemicals, are hormonally toxic and extremely persistent. They bear a double benzene ring structure that makes them extremely durable, while their planar or flat molecule shape is a key factor in their toxicity…

…How can we express this in terms that people can grasp? Let’s compare it to one single aspirin tablet. One aspirin tablet weighs 5 grains (or 325 milligrams, or 325 trillion femtograms), so to express one ‘safe’ lifetime dose of 2,3,7,8-TCDD, you would take a single aspirin tablet and divide it into 32 million (actually 32,172,218) minuscule pieces. Then one of those tiny pieces would represent one ‘safe’ lifetime dose of 2,3,7,8-TCDD.”

In other words, a single aspirin tablet’s worth of dioxin is the equivalent of a lifetime “safe dose” of dioxin exposure for 32 million people. This is a big reason why manufacturers try to avoid distilling it out of their products because they have no idea what to do with it other than to release it unmitigated into the environment…”



SO, to attempt to slough this disaster off as, it’s only in “cheap land in Ohio”, is beyond foolish.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

 

[Dani]

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I saw this last night but couldn’t find out if agenda 2030/Great Reset, whatever you want to call it actually has this in it. It would not surprise me at all if true.

 

[DrHenley]

I saw this last night but couldn’t find out if agenda 2030/Great Reset, whatever you want to call it actually has this in it. It would not surprise me at all if true.

Simple to find out. Read it:
https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N15/291/89/PDF/N1529189.pdf?OpenElementI'll try to read it today.
I find it interesting to say the least that they published it in Microsoft Word format instead of pdf. (Microsoft==Bill Gates)

 

[DrHenley]

If you want to get a glimpse of their pipe dream for the world...

We envisage a world free of fear and violence. A world with universal literacy. A world with equitable and universal access to quality education at all levels, to health care and social protection, where physical, mental and social well-being are assured.

This vision can only exist in your dreams, morons. Or more accurately, in your drug induced fantasies. This is Brave New World level fantasies.

 

[DrHenley]

:Here is a pdf in case the above link doesn't work (due to it needing Microsoft Word)
https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N15/291/89/PDF/N1529189.pdf

 

[Dani]

:Here is a pdf in case the above link doesn't work (due to it needing Microsoft Word)
https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N15/291/89/PDF/N1529189.pdf

This link doesn’t work for me. Actually neither. Might be the settings on my phone. I’ll try tonight on the big computer after we get back from the beach.

 

[DrHenley]

On my phone, I have to download the second one first, then use a pdf viewer.

 

[DrHenley]

OK I read it.
It's a 35 page word salad that keeps saying the same things over and over and over and over...
You really have read between the lines to figure what they really mean. They seem to encourage family farms, but then they throw in a bunch of greenie ecological constraints and climate change mumbo jumbo.

 

[Survivor_316]

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And it's all conservatives there. It's a blatant attack on conservatives.

Things will be bad soon.

 

[Dani]

To me actions speak louder than words. They (Great Reset) want to paint a "pretty picture", but yet seems like all the things they back actually do the complete opposite. I just do not understand. I mean I do. . . They are gaslighting to get people on board with their ideas. They're complete lies! Does so many not pay attention and just buy into this "idea" without questioning??

 

[lonewolf]

saw a photo of the plume on the national news here last night, looks like a nuclear bomb going off.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

To me actions speak louder than words. They (Great Reset) want to paint a "pretty picture", but yet seems like all the things they back actually do the complete opposite. I just do not understand. I mean I do. . . They are gaslighting to get people on board with their ideas. They're complete lies! Does so many not pay attention and just buy into this "idea" without questioning??

They are lying out their arses! Planned. On purpose dumbing down of our young. Trying to convince everyone they are out to help us vs kill us. The record shows clearly the later is what they are actively doing.

Like Dr Henley, I spent time the other day reading the 2030 PROPAGANDA. Then a bunch of articles. Word salads. Did run across an article with a bunch of quotes from it with “interpretations “ after the quotes. It goes along with the above piece from GAB.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

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[Dani]

Too many coincidences here for me at least.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ometrics-1-week-before-ohio-train-derailment/

 

[Dave2001]

Too many coincidences here for me at least.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ometrics-1-week-before-ohio-train-derailment/

Bout like lots of our food processing plants burning down!!

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

We are under attack. No doubt about it!