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Brison

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I'm curious what other people think about the Trump win in terms of how it might affect prepping. Do you think his presidency will have any effect on the potential for a disaster or crisis to occur? Or, (in your opinion) do you think some sort of "event" is inevitable? A good number of people seem to feel that an Economic Crisis is most likely. Others seem to think we're headed for some version of a civil war.
 
Well the non stop insidious erosion on US gun ownership rights and constraints on the amounts of ammo gun owners can keep should ease. Hopefully the attacks on people wanting to live off grid will also ease, Taxes may fall as he scraps or cancels the lavish welfare systems for illegals . He also appears to like SMALL government which may see the Federal Land grabs ease as well thus allowing off grid homesteaders the chance to graze their critters on federal land without persecution. Americas economy was smaller but far more stable when the US strives to be isolationist rather than global, that can only be good for Americans as it will drive the US to start making consumables in the US rather than outsourcing jobs and wealth creation to China.
 
personally,don't think you'll have a civil war over there,what could trigger something nasty if "dark powers" decide to take out the elected by some means permanent.
will we have some sort of global war in the future? most likely we will...and it seems like every country is now upgrading their defences.
 
I don't think a civil war is looming. It's just a bunch of young people that are worried their free ride is likely ending and they are venting steam. (Ok, understated here, but moving on). I think they will grow bored and move on before long.
The economic crisis is coming, and no one can stop it, not even trump. I'm not sure when, and won't even try to guess, but all the pyramid schemes around the globe can't be sustained indefinately. By schemes I mean debt laden economies.
I hope a global crash won't lead to widespread war, but it's a likely trigger. I wish I could feel confident that trump, or anyone else could stop this speeding train wreck but don't think any one person is capable. Where the heck is superman when you need him....
 
Brison said:
I'm curious what other people think about the Trump win in terms of how it might affect prepping. Do you think his presidency will have any effect on the potential for a disaster or crisis to occur? Or, (in your opinion) do you think some sort of "event" is inevitable? A good number of people seem to feel that an Economic Crisis is most likely. Others seem to think we're headed for some version of a civil war.
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Its obvious we all need to stay the course.....Trump got elected simply because he was not a main stream politician but then again neither was Reagan. I do not think civil war is going to happen because these liberal protestors will get tired after a while and move on....Economic crisis is certainly a possibility. I think the real threat will come from outside governments a threat that will bring countries together instead of tearing them apart....We all have to live on this big ball so why not get along and make the best of it.
 
Brison said:
I'm curious what other people think about the Trump win in terms of how it might affect prepping. Do you think his presidency will have any effect on the potential for a disaster or crisis to occur? Or, (in your opinion) do you think some sort of "event" is inevitable? A good number of people seem to feel that an Economic Crisis is most likely. Others seem to think we're headed for some version of a civil war.
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I think America is heading for another civil war... There's guns enough in America to shoot it all to kingdom come... Bad news for America, and bad news for Europe, and the world... Putin is very aware of this, and is just waiting to take it even further than the Ukraine... I'm not very optimistic when it comes to maintaining peace and stability in America, or in Europe... Europe must build a very, very strong army... and do it as quickly as possible... We are not prepared... I see a dark sail on the horizon... A sleeping beauty is not so beautiful with a bashed in face... Wake up Europe! Wake up now!!
 
grayghost668 said:
it just gives us a little breathing room,,no one knows when it will all go to **** but eventually some a-hole will get stupid and push the red button,,,,when it happens I will see you all in hell
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It's inevitable...The world is simply too crazy... I believe it's all going to hell... I'd love to be wrong though... but I just don't believe that we can avoid it...
 
Trump gives me a little more hope economically. . . Hopefully he can fix our now healthcare. We had less coverage, a higher premium & deductible with dropping the two youngest boys. This month hunny had to go on Medicare, which is a nightmare setting up, but now I am the only one that is on the health plan now.
 
bigpaul said:
I do like the fact that at last you have someone who isn't a professional politician!! its like a breath of fresh air after all the back stabbing that normally goes on.
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Too many people have been led down for too long... I hope the best for America...
 
Brent S said:
I don't think a civil war is looming. It's just a bunch of young people that are worried their free ride is likely ending and they are venting steam. (Ok, understated here, but moving on). I think they will grow bored and move on before long.
The economic crisis is coming, and no one can stop it, not even trump. I'm not sure when, and won't even try to guess, but all the pyramid schemes around the globe can't be sustained indefinately. By schemes I mean debt laden economies.
I hope a global crash won't lead to widespread war, but it's a likely trigger. I wish I could feel confident that trump, or anyone else could stop this speeding train wreck but don't think any one person is capable. Where the heck is superman when you need him....
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I sure hope you're right... Another civil war in America is only good news for the enemies of the free world... God bless America! Keep on prepping!
 
Brison said:
I'm curious what other people think about the Trump win in terms of how it might affect prepping. Do you think his presidency will have any effect on the potential for a disaster or crisis to occur? Or, (in your opinion) do you think some sort of "event" is inevitable? A good number of people seem to feel that an Economic Crisis is most likely. Others seem to think we're headed for some version of a civil war.
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One to two weeks after the election I would have said civil war was most likely. Actually I am not sure that civil war is the correct term, I think civil unrest would be the correct term. The protestors have simmered down for the moment but they are not done. They are currently organizing for a massive protest disruptj20 is collecting volunteers and getting ready. They are nasty people who seem to be putting their wants ahead of what is best for the country.


The markets are at record highs. Some people are rejoicing but I see this as a huge warning sign. I have stepped up my preps because I believe it is going to get real ugly. I think we are going to fall. I believe that the elite will not be giving up power to the people and they can crash the market at anytime. I am waiting for Black Friday numbers because I think that will be a great indicator of how the middle class is feeling. If numbers are low then it will indicate that the workers of America are feeling uncertain also.
 
The national debt, unfunded liabilities, and insolvency of Social Security haven't gone away just because Trump was elected. I think we have a better chance to solve some of the long term economic problems, and I think Trump getting elected may delay the inevitable, but the Ponzi scheme underlying the world's monetary systems and social welfare systems will have to crash eventually.

The protesters? Some are paid agitators and the rest are a bunch of crybabies throwing a temper tantrum. Let them get it out of their system.

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DrHenley said:
The national debt, unfunded liabilities, and insolvency of Social Security haven't gone away just because Trump was elected. I think we have a better chance to solve some of the long term economic problems, and I think Trump getting elected may delay the inevitable, but the Ponzi scheme underlying the world's monetary systems and social welfare systems will have to crash eventually.

The protesters? Some are paid agitators and the rest are a bunch of crybabies throwing a temper tantrum. Let them get it out of their system.

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How did that happen? The national debt of America is staggeringly high... Thank God for the printing press... (...No, it's really not funny...) I may not agree on everything that Mr. Trump says, but I agree with him on a lot of issues... and when it comes to the protesters, I can understand that some of the losers of the American election is a bit frustrated, or even scared... These are scary times... but the fact is that they lost the election...

Americas election system is very different from our election system... In Denmark every vote counts, but that's not how it is in America... You lose a whole state, or you win a whole state... and because the American system is set up this way, you might just end up with a president elect that got the least votes... but because the American election system is set up this way, every candidate forms their strategy accordingly... Candidates form their strategy, not to get the most votes, but to win states... and the thing is that Hillary Clintons strategy just didn't work...

If your election system had been like the one we have in Denmark, her strategy would have been different, and so would Mr. Trumps probably... Trumps strategy was to win the 270 Electoral College votes or more, and he did... His strategy was not to win the most votes, and it's the same with Hillary Clinton...

So we now have people in the United States of America who are complaining about the fact that Hillary Clinton got the most votes, and didn't get elected, and I can understand that kind of frustration... but her strategy didn't work, and Mr. Trumps strategy did... That's the bottom line... Mr. Trumps strategy would have been different if the election system would have been different, and if that were the case, that different approach, or strategy, may just have put him in the white house anyway... or that's what I believe...

The fact is that Mr. Trump outsmarted Hillary Clinton all the way to the white house, and she just couldn't keep up with him... He revolutionized the way a candidate in America speaks, and what can be said, and Hillary just didn't understand how to fight it... Donald Trump is not an idiot... He's a very smart guy... and who knows... maybe he would have won the election anyway if your election system had been like the one we have in Denmark...

The Danish politicians have been saying a lot of bad stuff about Mr. Trump. Probably because they just couldn't imagine that he could win, but the moment that he did win, they were on a very fast retread... suddenly Mr. Trump wasn't that bad after all... blah, blah, blah... Serves them right, ha, ha... Most of the Danish politicians are so despicable, I wouldn't sell them to my worst enemies... (...come to think of it, I probably would...but that's another story...) Donald Trump won the American election. Hillary's strategy didn't work... Get over it, and let's move forward...
 
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It doesn't change my prepping plans any. I think the Republicans will do what they do best; roll over for the Democrats and the cry baby's on the Left. I fear that Trump will compromise too much and make deals with the Left. I do have some hope for Trump though. He may keep us out of foreign wars and hopefully out of other countries problems. I personally think it's time for the US to cut off all welfare (foreign aid) to all countries.
 
Arcticdude said:
It doesn't change my prepping plans any. I think the Republicans will do what they do best; roll over for the Democrats and the cry baby's on the Left. I fear that Trump will compromise too much and make deals with the Left. I do have some hope for Trump though. He may keep us out of foreign wars and hopefully out of other countries problems. I personally think it's time for the US to cut off all welfare (foreign aid) to all countries.
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The Europeans should invest more in their own security, I think that they are letting you down... Wars are not always the right approach, but we should take on more responsibilities... Donald Trump is right to tell Americas allies to get in line and pay the price that they have agreed on...
 
RockRealFlock said:
Americas election system is very different from our election system... In Denmark every vote counts, but that's not how it is in America...
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The framers of the Constitution wrestled with how to elect a president for a while. Most people don't understand the concept behind the Electoral College, but here is a quote from Thomas Jefferson that may help understand the thinking:

“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.” Thomas Jefferson

They were afraid that large (corrupt) cities would have too much power by virtue of the large populations and run roughshod over the rest of the country. The Senate, with two Senators per state, no matter the population was a counter balance. The House of Representatives more closely represents large population centers since Representatives are chosen by population. Since the electors are chose by the number of Senators plus the number of Representatives, it is a compromise, giving states with larger populations more electors, but not directly proportional to the population, thus giving states with smaller populations a voice.

Here is a map, county by county of the election results. Red is for Trump, Blue is for Clinton:

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DrHenley said:
The framers of the Constitution wrestled with how to elect a president for a while. Most people don't understand the concept behind the Electoral College, but here is a quote from Thomas Jefferson that may help understand the thinking:

“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.” Thomas Jefferson

They were afraid that large (corrupt) cities would have too much power by virtue of the large populations and run roughshod over the rest of the country. The Senate, with two Senators per state, no matter the population was a counter balance. The House of Representatives more closely represents large population centers since Representatives are chosen by population. Since the electors are chose by the number of Senators plus the number of Representatives, it is a compromise, giving states with larger populations more electors, but not directly proportional to the population, thus giving states with smaller populations a voice.

Here is a map, county by county of the election results. Red is for Trump, Blue is for Clinton:

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I am not sure that I understand this correctly, but I will read up on it... I wrote that in Denmark every vote counts, and that is correct in a way, but if a new political party wants to be elected, they have to get at least 2 percent of the national votes... If they get anything under that 2 percent, all of these votes are lost...

Now I'm not saying that the Danish system is more democratic than the American political system, or even better... and I'm saying that, simply because I'm not sure about what system is the "best"... Denmark and America are very different in many ways... So I don't think that it's fair to compare the Giant with the dwarf...

So maybe the Danish system is "the best" for a little country like Denmark, and maybe the American system is "the best" for America... I just don't know... Anyway... In Denmark we have at the time 9 different parties... America have other obligations and problems than we have... and I actually don't know if America would benefit from having an election system like the one we have in Denmark, but maybe the American election system could benefit from a revision of some sort or another...

I think that the answer to that question is probably yes... Well maybe, maybe... Now I have to be very careful about this subject... It's so easy to fall into the trap of telling people how it is to go to war, when you're not a veteran... Telling teachers how it is to be a teacher, when you're not a teacher... etc... etc...

I mean, I'm here sitting so far away from America, and I haven't experienced your elections first hand myself... but I can say this... that most Danes don't see the American system as a very Democratic one... I heard a joke about the American two party system the other day, and it goes like this: "Only two political parties? Well, that's nearly communism to me..." - Danish standup comedian Jan Gintberg

This is just a joke, of course, but if you take one party away, and there's only one left, it would look a lot like a dictatorship... It seems to me that a lot of Americans already feel that it is a kind of "dictatorship" ... They don't feel that they are being represented in the American political system... and I believe that this is bound to cause a lot of problems in the future...
 
I think if Clinton had won we would be heading for WW3 in the new year, I don't have this fear with Trump, he is a businessman first and foremost.
 
bigpaul said:
I think if Clinton had won we would be heading for WW3 in the new year, I don't have this fear with Trump, he is a businessman first and foremost.
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Damn! I thought at least that he was going to wipe out the large cities! ;):D People are so unreliable nowadays... ;)
 
bigpaul said:
I think if Clinton had won we would be heading for WW3 in the new year, I don't have this fear with Trump, he is a businessman first and foremost.
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Sorry Bigpaul, but I'm a bit of a joker...;) can't help myself... No, Seriously... Why do you believe that Hillary Clinton would have caused these kind of major problems?
 
because she is a warmonger, well known for it, given some of the attitudes she and Obama had with Russia I think WW3 was inevitable under her presidency.
ever time she talked about Trump in the debates it was always something to do with Russia, Russia was backing him, or Russia was hacking the Democrats, or Putin was trying to force the result of the Election, it was always someone else's fault she lost the election, never hers.
 
Funny thing is, the same group protesting is largely anti-gun...so their ability to actually wage a civil war is well.....not there. Unless they plan on hitting troops with their participation trophies or rolled up gender studies degrees.....
 
bigpaul said:
because she is a warmonger, well known for it, given some of the attitudes she and Obama had with Russia I think WW3 was inevitable under her presidency.
ever time she talked about Trump in the debates it was always something to do with Russia, Russia was backing him, or Russia was hacking the Democrats, or Putin was trying to force the result of the Election, it was always someone else's fault she lost the election, never hers.
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Okay, I haven't heard that much of these debates, but I think that Donald Trump handled it better than Hillary... Hillary was desperately trying to shift the focus away from the fact that she did a very stupid thing... using her family's private email server for official communication. Blaming Russia was the tactic she used to shift the attention away from herself, and unite America against a foreign enemy... I can understand that she tried to do something... Russia is acting very aggressively these days, and I believe that it's very likely that they are involved in cyber attacks against your country... I don't understand why you think that Hillary Clinton would start WW3, if that's what you mean...
 
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