What bothers or frightens me the most about prepping.

[Mountain trapper]

It is up to you.....but I plan to create a decade or two between your two milestones above.

As I listed above, many in my area have done just that.

Farms that have already been paid off can usually operate at somewhat reduced but still adequate profit, even when you have to contract some stuff out.

Bigger farms have the option to lease out or share farm on some or all the land beyond the boundary of the house surrounds.



Sounds like a good plan.......can you stretch that out (in combination with some other income streams)?

I already lease out the grazing on part of the property, but I'm still responsible for the fencing, water etc. Our property is completely paid off, no debts. We really don't need the income off the property, our pensions, investments and SS provide very nicely. My original intent was to keep this place in the family for future generations. But sometimes dreams just don't come true. If we could find the right young family that has the dream we may just give it to them.

 

[Hardcalibres]

I already lease out the grazing on part of the property, but I'm still responsible for the fencing, water etc. Our property is completely paid off, no debts. We really don't need the income off the property, our pensions, investments and SS provide very nicely. My original intent was to keep this place in the family for future generations. But sometimes dreams just don't come true. If we could find the right young family that has the dream we may just give it to them.

I you like living there.....then stay as long as you can.

 

[Magus]

Tree farming is still a good tax move I see.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/sites/defau...ument/2022-Tax-Tips-for-Forest-Landowners.pdf

 

[Sourdough]

This point in the "cycle" it is great to be quite old.
Also great to be quite young.
Not great for those at midlife or "slightly" beyond.

 

[morgaineotm]

God helps those who help themselves, so it is said. Like the joke about the guy in an accident who refuses all help because God will take care of him. and when he dies he asks why God didn't help him. and God says, I sent you a Cop, a paramedic and a doctor. What more did you expect me to do?

That plays both ways if and when we reach such times: do you keep helping when people are only willing to take? Then you are not helping yourself, nor are you really helping others, just enabling them to continue their selfishness of taking. when you're played out they will just move to the next one with their hands out.

and the person who is asking for help needs to help themselves, even if its to pick up a rag and clean in thanks for the meal or shelter.

Its a delicate balance, and I for one am not willing to help those, no matter how desperate, if they are not willing to help in some way in return.

Just my opinoin and my POV

 

[montanabill]

This is predicated by the ability to work.....You don't work you don't eat.


All the more reason to surround yourself with good people in a good place now.

 

[Michele My Belle]

200 years ago people prepped and the average lifespan was around 45 and infant mortality was 50%.
I am entirely open to ways of living that do not include working myself to death or dying from a infected scratch.
I try to take the best from various times..

https://www.amazon.com/Book-Early-Americana-Dover-Books/dp/0486498085/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1L3T72ML8JC2G&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MZsT2arCFuub5KI8Ds5CH-tK6Mae1KbdNOsoZfeB3iHYsrMfuxqLpaBQtoiG-uyjGNN7mfcVvA1AYnDzt_ycfOLrRDFIzdqIsmUNORYHsyb25DLL1M7ECMSGoxSrx8lT8lC2eS41tEprc6rRB9i_Xne-40jh-olYn3ozakxwCvRk4Hpp95u8ao98tZFU76rs9RE-NXpk-zFvTjcoRAC_ODX2A1w6H6A3UeHTTEnO59o.mhJU2_ugLUSODETVLE-SQ5g6ukZdKbyBJE55F4FwxIU&dib_tag=se&keywords=eric+sloan+books&qid=1736958400&sprefix=eric+sloan+books,aps,162&sr=8-6

https://antibiotics.jasemedical.com/emergency-antibiotic-guide

This Jase Medical is gaining in popularity. I'm kind of loving it.

 

[montanabill]

This Jase Medical is gaining in popularity. I'm kind of loving it.

Modern antibiotics can save your life right now...look up jase online and tell them you have had a checkup in the past year, don't have any sever health conditions and send the money...
I just got another kit coming for our motorhome that we might have parked in another location and so we need another kit for it. No problem, just give them the answers that check the boxes and your kit can be in the mail.
My wife is a RN and has a deep understanding and practice of natural healing but the antibiotics are still the go to when things need to be handled right now.
They also have kits for kids and teens.
Think about it. A nice dinner in a good restaurant with drinks for four people.....or a kit that could save several lives including your own or your own children's,......

 

[Amish Heart]

Modern antibiotics can save your life right now...look up jase online and tell them you have had a checkup in the past year, don't have any sever health conditions and send the money...
I just got another kit coming for our motorhome that we might have parked in another location and so we need another kit for it. No problem, just give them the answers that check the boxes and your kit can be in the mail.
My wife is a RN and has a deep understanding and practice of natural healing but the antibiotics are still the go to when things need to be handled right now.
They also have kits for kids and teens.
Think about it. A nice dinner in a good restaurant with drinks for four people.....or a kit that could save several lives including your own or your own children's,......

I haven't ordered from them because so far I can just buy ivermectin, amox, and zpacks from our feed store. But they look like they have good product

 

[montanabill]

I haven't ordered from them because so far I can just buy ivermectin, amox, and zpacks from our feed store. But they look like they have good product

some things amox won't fix so the doxycycline in the kit comes in handy...several other things in the kit should be useful as well since the kit is tailored for travelers in out of the way places.
We also stock the feed store supplies as well ... even got some silver enhanced ointment similar to Silvadene.
The jase kit comes with some pretty good written instructions on plastic coated cards identifying what drug for what affliction.
We use the available docs and pharmacy's right now but it is good to have a option..

 

[Amish Heart]

I was thinking of looking into it for the doxy. I can't get that. Amox doesn't do all that much, so I don't have much of it. But the azithromycin is good.

 

[Dave V]

My wife (the pharmacist) is not a big fan of Jase for several reasons.
Jase is "Legitimate," but

• you're getting fleeced with the price they charge for generics
  (that she knows they're getting for pennies,) and
• the strengths they've chosen to supply are not ideal for the most common ailments they're intended for. (like 875 mg for Amoxicillin)
  Hopefully they supply doses based on your weight?
• the number count of each drug supplied is questionable.
  In some cases, it may be overkill and in other cases, not enough to kill the bacteria and now you may have made bacteria immune by not having the sufficient supply to finish them off. What happens if more than one person "gets whatever it is?"
  Do you just not treat them, or do you switch to another antibiotic because it's all you have left? Regardless, if you're keeping a med kit, have enough of each drug for several incidents so you don't have to shorten a treatment.
  
  Doctors at least see MANY people with the same ailments every year, so they should be able to recognize the most common ailments and "have it down pat," which drug treats which ailment best, the doses per weight, the treatment duration, and possible drug interactions with the multitude of other drugs we may be taking. Most civilians do NOT have that discernment, but we have a kit full of drugs that might work if only we choose the right one?!
  Unfortunately, there are some doctors that practice "polypharmacy." They prescribe multiple drugs because they don't bother to do the lab work needed to pinpoint the precise bacteria - if, in fact, it even is bacteria causing the ailment? If they prescribe a couple of antibiotics to "make sure they kill it," they may end up creating an environment where competing fungi and viruses can potentially thrive more easily due to reduced competition.
  Then you really have a mess.
  The best answer is to marry a pharmacist! (Or nurse, or doctor.)
  Runner-up answer...have a good medical reference that includes proper use of common medicines.
  AND as Amish Heart said, buy generics (animal drugs) at your feed store etc.
  If you get the same doses as people use, you are getting the same stuff.
  Just a LOT less expensive! You could also use multiple on-line pharmacies (if necessary) to request treatment for your carefully worded ailment. On-line pharmacies can also supply you with travel drugs commonly needed in certain countries. You could also ask your GP to supply you with these same travel drugs...it wouldn't hurt to ask.
  Seriously though, prescriptions are there to prevent the unknowledgeable from hurting themselves...but also most certainly to feed the money monster (drug companies!)
  EDIT: montanabill says "The jase kit comes with some pretty good written instructions on plastic coated cards identifying what drug for what affliction."
  Good to know! Clear instructions probably make this a good (but pricey) option for many. Alternatives (like on-line stores) might be more work than they're worth!

 

[Amish Heart]

Our youngest daughter is a pharmacist and my husband is a medical know it all for infection, especially pulmonary..because he has had problems all his life.
I can tell you tho that daughter has a spaz attack if anyone is talking about have the med for something. So it's hush hush around her.
It's pretty easy to look up dosage per your weight. I'm sure Jase is making lots of money, but that's what they do, they're a business. If you do store meds at home, I'd suggest writing what they are, what they do, and the dosage with it. Not hard. We lived in New Mexico for a very long time, and I do know lots of people who would drive to Mexico and just load up on what they needed. Because it's so cheap to do it that way. You can just buy stuff at the pharmacy. I remember when we lived in France in 1984, you could just go to the pharmacy and ask for what you wanted. And it was not expensive. I have insurance, and for my meds I use the goodrx card at Walmart. I rarely have meds prescribed. I can get a Zpack from the feed store for $35 if my ear is bothering me, or I can make a doc appt, go to that ($15 copay), get a prescription and go to Walmart, maybe pay $20 for the Zpack, and taken up 3 hrs of my day. I'll will say that my doctor is not amused when I tell him I've taken something else. He about blew a gasket when I had bad arthritis flare up in my hip...I had seen him before for it, he sent me to the rheumatologist for shots, did that. Two months later I'm in bad pain and swelling, so I was taking some of husband's predisolone (he has extra), and made a doc appt. to get some in my name. He was ticked. Wouldn't do it.
Mostly you need to make sure you take care of yourself and yours. Docs can be expensive, and they can be buttheads. Prescriptions are way overpriced and you have to beg the doc sometimes to get what you need. Instead the docs seem way too interested in prescribing things you maybe shouldn't be taking. I'm glad companies like Jase exist, if only so that you have a choice in the matter.

 

[Pearl]

Our youngest daughter is a pharmacist and my husband is a medical know it all for infection, especially pulmonary..because he has had problems all his life.
I can tell you tho that daughter has a spaz attack if anyone is talking about have the med for something. So it's hush hush around her.
It's pretty easy to look up dosage per your weight. I'm sure Jase is making lots of money, but that's what they do, they're a business. If you do store meds at home, I'd suggest writing what they are, what they do, and the dosage with it. Not hard. We lived in New Mexico for a very long time, and I do know lots of people who would drive to Mexico and just load up on what they needed. Because it's so cheap to do it that way. You can just buy stuff at the pharmacy. I remember when we lived in France in 1984, you could just go to the pharmacy and ask for what you wanted. And it was not expensive. I have insurance, and for my meds I use the goodrx card at Walmart. I rarely have meds prescribed. I can get a Zpack from the feed store for $35 if my ear is bothering me, or I can make a doc appt, go to that ($15 copay), get a prescription and go to Walmart, maybe pay $20 for the Zpack, and taken up 3 hrs of my day. I'll will say that my doctor is not amused when I tell him I've taken something else. He about blew a gasket when I had bad arthritis flare up in my hip...I had seen him before for it, he sent me to the rheumatologist for shots, did that. Two months later I'm in bad pain and swelling, so I was taking some of husband's predisolone (he has extra), and made a doc appt. to get some in my name. He was ticked. Wouldn't do it.
Mostly you need to make sure you take care of yourself and yours. Docs can be expensive, and they can be buttheads. Prescriptions are way overpriced and you have to beg the doc sometimes to get what you need. Instead the docs seem way too interested in prescribing things you maybe shouldn't be taking. I'm glad companies like Jase exist, if only so that you have a choice in the matter.

You are only good to most doctors when you are sick!!

 

[Amish Heart]

Many docs are reluctant to prescribe antibiotics, even when they are necessary. I get it for a virus, won't do any good, but if that has turned in to a secondary infection, then yes, you need one. Our daughter in Washington state was out to visit early summer for a week. She had a crappy cough, sinus issues, had been to the doc in WA twice, had been going on for four whole weeks! He gave her a cough syrup to help her sleep and a mucinex type drug which just made her thirsty (because that's all mucines does). I gave her a Zpack from the feed store. She started improving rapidly after a day and a half. She called her husband, and he said to go to the feed store and buy a bunch of bottles to bring home with her for when they needed it. She was so thrilled.