What if the police announced you’re on you own....

[tmttactical]

Yeah, He is my kind of guy. Trust no one and stay safe. Respect most and trust only those that have proven trust worthy.

 

[Brent S]

I had an aquaintence once that I told I trust everyone until they give me a reason to not trust them. I was young. He said he never trusted anyone until they proved they were trustworthy. I hope I’m never as cynical as he was but realize with age that I trust less and less people.....

 

[KateMTx]

Yeah, He is my kind of guy. Trust no one and stay safe. Respect most and trust only those that have proven trust worthy.

"Don't trust anyone" was one of the first rules I made for myself when I left home.

 

[DrHenley]

"Trust but verify."

 

[lonewolf]

" If you don't know them, haven't worked with them or spent time with them, then don't trust them".
in the good times you might be able to take a chance on someone, but Post SHTF taking a chance could be fatal.

 

[Mountain trapper]

I'd be fine if every cop in my area was let go tomorrow. What little "crime" there is around here doesn't affect me at all.
Other areas may be different, but over all I think there are too many cops, too many laws, too many people in prison, too many lawyers, and too many politicians making new laws.

 

[lonewolf]

I live in a low crime area, what crime there is usually is classified as "domestic", no major crime.

 

[VenomJockey]

"Trust" must be earned...it is not "automatic," and my personal philosophy is basically "trust no one, and you won't be disappointed." Ask yourself, "Would I trust this person with my LIFE?" Because in a SHTF situation that is exactly what you would be doing.

 

[KateMTx]

"Trust but verify."

That's what my dad always said the rule should be.

 

[Maverick]

Verify then trust, I always thought that phrase (trust but verify) was a little backwards.

 

[HunkeredHillbilly]

I just saw on the Atlanta news that the police are so busy now that they are going to stop responding to shoplifting calls. They said stores should enact their own security plans. Are you kidding me? Sure, Walmart can hire a guard 24/7, but small shops don’t have those resources. This is the reason I believe in CCW. We’re in the richest country in the world, and can’t afford enough cops......

My husband and I were just talking about this same thing the other day. The government wants to take as much money from us as they can, yet dont want to put any into us. Our car got broken into in Charlotte..... they told us it would take 30-45 minutes for someone to come out. WTH...... a big city like that and 45 minutes for a cop to come because its not an emergency.

 

[HunkeredHillbilly]

"Trust" must be earned...it is not "automatic," and my personal philosophy is basically "trust no one, and you won't be disappointed." Ask yourself, "Would I trust this person with my LIFE?" Because in a SHTF situation that is exactly what you would be doing.

I feel trust is earned a well. so many people give me bs because they feel until they do something why shouldnt i trust them? my response is why should you. you don't know them like you think you do. I like my chosen family because my real family was like trust the government......what has the government done for me except take my money, and decrease the worth of lives so.....what do i offer them.... NOTHING!!!!!!! i'm one individual that's not a sheep so i am expendable.... that is where trust comes in....all people are replaceable if they don't offer you something, so what do you do? you decide whos the keepers and who slows you down.

 

[jeff miller]

I sometime wonder if the gov. press is putting the public between the law enforcement on purpose. Law enforcement has been screwing up for 50 years that I know of, just not put on the street. Then now days everybody has a cell phone, 320,000,000 sets of eyes, whats law enforcement thinking. Military patrolling the streets is just a piece of paper away.The Commander-N-Chief already declared state of emergency ( the wall ) think about it.

 

[Mountain trapper]

I sometime wonder if the gov. press is putting the public between the law enforcement on purpose. Law enforcement has been screwing up for 50 years that I know of, just not put on the street. Then now days everybody has a cell phone, 320,000,000 sets of eyes, whats law enforcement thinking. Military patrolling the streets is just a piece of paper away.The Commander-N-Chief already declared state of emergency ( the wall ) think about it.

I hope that I don't live long enough to see the military protroling our streets. We're close enough to a police state now.

 

[jeff miller]

Articdude, your so right about being close to police state, makes me want to spend this last 20.00 on ammo.

 

[KateMTx]

I hope that I don't live long enough to see the military protroling our streets. We're close enough to a police state now.

I know people who think it's a good thing. One of these individuals says they are "conservative" but some of their ideas are downright scary. There's a reason I'm a libertarian.

 

[jeff miller]

To be honest, the only thing that the law, and the local state and fed, gov see's is prepper. They know they see ( computers ) they hear ( phones ) then the promote (see something say something ) that's fine to a point. When a neighbor can call the law and say anything no proof and now you have to defend yourself on just what some one says. We already have strike one being a prepper.

 

[Maverick]

The only time a Prepper would get on the radar is belonging to groups that act militarized and/or selling illegal stuff. Prepper’s are not targeted solely for prepping.

 

[jeff miller]

You very well could be right,I hope so. There is a law against stockpiling food ( I would have to look up again ), The gov. has been trying to pass law to if you have water on your land the gov. will tell you how to use it. The gov. has been and to some extent. stopped the small farmer from selling road side produce . Just that tells me were a target. Hope i'm wrong and hope my prepping is for nothing.

 

[Maverick]

You very well could be right,I hope so. There is a law against stockpiling food ( I would have to look up again ), The gov. has been trying to pass law to if you have water on your land the gov. will tell you how to use it. The gov. has been and to some extent. stopped the small farmer from selling road side produce . Just that tells me were a target. Hope i'm wrong and hope my prepping is for nothing.

The government be it local or federal can dictate how that water can be utilized, much of the power has come from the formation of the EPA in 1970 and it’s Wetlands Protection and Restoration laws. As far as hording food, I don’t know of any federal statute that prohibits its or any state that prohibits it otherwise the long term food sold in #10 can and 5/6 gal pales would be outlawed

 

[jeff miller]

Your right nothing to worry about, but the ordering of food over the internet can be tracked back to address. Same way buying bulk ammo, all not against the law gov. knows who has it. They still listen to phone calls and watch the net. I maybe to far gone and need to go back to my hole.

 

[jeff miller]

I'm also wondering if were not a target why would a person use a fake name ******** address and tell only half what they know, the safe stuff.

 

[Maverick]

People tend to give the government to much credit, the government can’t even keep track of rapists and child molesters nor can they balance a budget, I wouldn’t worry them tracking ammo to your house, if you look at the amount of transaction an hour done by debit and credit cards, government don’t have the resources to track every transactions. When credit/debit cards are used they see the purchase being made at a particular store not the merchandise being purchased, banks and credit card companies don’t see your sales receipt

 

[jeff miller]

Ok.

 

[Maverick]

These are small example of tracking codes that financial institutions use and the IRS called MCC, you can go here and see the full list (half way down)
if you notice guns and ammo aren't listed.

4900 Bail and bond payments
5300 Wholesale clubs (Costco, Sams, etc.)
5411 Grocery supermarkets
5532 Automotive stores
5698 Wig and toupee stores
5813 Drinking places (bars, nightclubs)
5814 Fast-food restaurants
5912 Drugstores and pharmacies
5921 Packaged beer, wine and liquor stores
5931 Used and secondhand stores
5933 Pawnshops
5944 Jewelry, watches, clocks and silverware stores
7251 Shoe repair shops
7273 Dating/escort services
7277 Counseling services (debt, marriage, personal)
7297 Massage parlors
7393 Detective agencies
7534 Tire retreading and tire repair
7995 Betting/casino gambling establishments
8011 Doctors
8062 Hospitals
8099 Medical services
8351 Child care services
8651 Political organizations
9211 Court costs (child support and alimony payments)

 

[jeff miller]

Ok again, you set me straight .

 

[DrHenley]

And then again, if you live in a state like Kali, the state government DOES care about the ammunition you buy.

 

[Brent S]

As far as listening I have no doubts that the govt monitors this and many other sites. Luckily most people with psychotic notions are apparently stupid and like to advertise what they intend to do. I know that’s how a lot of them are stopped before they harm anyone. It seems to me that too many are radicalized over religion and politics and work themselves up into a hate filled rage. I’m honestly glad that there are people that try to keep an eye out for the nut jobs. I sleep better at night for it.

 

[jeff miller]

I had to let it alone, some people because their smart ( book ) and a want a be lawyer has to be right about everything, and you have to ask yourself wy not is the ammo and weapons not being tracked like the other stuff, ( different way maybe ). I haven't been on this site but 3 days and might not make 4 before I get kicked off. Thanks for your input.

 

[jeff miller]

To a point, always someone out to make a buck over knowledge , guess that's why people hack. Off subject, how do I access the message in the upper right block.