Having a coffee, planning things while the sun shines. I noticed that a couple of members are, hoping were considering leaving, I hope not, i will say that this winter has had a bit of lively discussion, most healthy. we have members from all walks of life here, Self reliance is a mindset, not a location specif thing,and as other have pointed out we are all getting older so chore get less appealing everyday. the controversial threads and people who may irritate you are easy to avoid. we have a GREAT bunch of people here and GREAT mods.