I'm in uk so can say what I want, Obama is a bullshitting little weirdo who's gonna either **** ur country or cause you all to overthrow him his new laws are gonna **** you all over too, ,,,,,,,,,,if you outlaw guns, only the outlaws have them ,,, I'd love a visit from some dodgy government types from any country, a nice head butt and so on would soon send em scarpering , I can't imagine what it would be like if they came to my little farming village where everyone even the seriously old grey frail dudes all pack shotguns etc , Iv got this one neighbour doug he's about 80 drives home from the pub drunk out of his mind on a quad every night in the snow and just came outa jail for smashing someone's head in with a scaffold pole , I'm sure If **** hit the fan he'd be able to hold his own against hundreds, I'm not welsh myself I'm English but god damn the farmer boys Round here are absolutely SOLID hahaa lolol
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I have that feeling its only trying to control the people. Take rights away and everything else so that the people has to rely on the government. I say screw the government. I was army for 7 years and the only benefit I got out of it was the training I received. I was given land after I got out but it was quickly taken back. No reason was given. I am anti-government . I only abide cause well I don't want to down my time in jail. The government will fail if things keep going the way it is. I am ready for the fall.
also ex military and yes all my training is all i got out of it and personaly I dont think all my targets were who they say they were if you know what i mean.... after my release I was denied the insurance and the VA dont even have me in files now for some jobs in the military that dont exist on paper they really screw ya i know
Our government is screwed beyond more can think. They say this but actually do that.
I know right where that is have been there myself. Went there a few times as kids and saw the updated version in the magazine Weird NJ with the cameras and chain link barb wire fence. I was stationed at Joint Base Dix Maguire Lakehurst as well until Nov of 2012. No idea if its a bunker for the base as that would be way above my pay grade. Still in NJ too, live a block off of Lake Hopatcong.
This is unreal! I can't believe this is happening! WOuld they not have to show you proof of the toxicity reports showing that the land is bad? Can they even do that? Don't they have to zone it when you buy it? How do they destroy your bunker even if the land was taken? I can't believe this, man.... I'm so sorry this has happened to you....
No doubt they're watching. My phone has been tapped and I've been watched for some time now. I know someone cracked a joke about this place being watched since the first person joined.... That sent chills up my spine because I was the 1st member.....
PhoenixPrepping, please come over and check a group on Facebook out. I don't usually advertise these things here, btu this group was started to not only protect but restore American freedoms. This story would do wellbeing on the news, too. Call FNC, MSNBC, CNN, anyone who will listen and make a stink about this. You can't let this go. If not for you then for the fellow countrymen that will suffer through the same thing if you don't.
If you're on facebook, send me your name and I will friend you and add you to this group. Please don't let this go unchecked....https://www.facebook.com/groups/320804518039394/?fref=ts
No doubt they're watching. My phone has been tapped and I've been watched for some time now. I know someone cracked a joke about this place being watched since the first person joined.... That sent chills up my spine because I was the 1st member.....
PhoenixPrepping, please come over and check a group on Facebook out. I don't usually advertise these things here, btu this group was started to not only protect but restore American freedoms. This story would do wellbeing on the news, too. Call FNC, MSNBC, CNN, anyone who will listen and make a stink about this. You can't let this go. If not for you then for the fellow countrymen that will suffer through the same thing if you don't.
If you're on facebook, send me your name and I will friend you and add you to this group. Please don't let this go unchecked....https://www.facebook.com/groups/320804518039394/?fref=ts
i just sent you a request to join this group. I will message you my real name.
Alabaster I sent a friend request. Also sent you my name.
Actually Ala, I don't have facebook or any other social networking site. When I was going through S.E.R.E they showed us all the info they can get about a person on those sites and I was bloody well shocked. So deleted the ones I had and never created a new one.
I'm not letting it go either btw. I'm holding on like a pit bull latched onto someone's ballsack. Like I said in earlier posts, I had all the required screenings and paperwork done prior to buying the land. There was NOTHING out of the ordinary or else I couldn't have bought it in the first place. They have showed me the copies of their tests and I told them to their faces they were full of ****. I said that if the results were true to let me get my own sample and run it through an independent lab and get my own results they bottled up REAL fast and said that just wasn't possible. When I asked why they got up from the table and walked out.
As it stands right now I'm working on getting my money back. I pumped about 300k into this altogether and right now they are stalling at 100k. Thats better than the 50k they first offered but still lowballin the hell out of me.
Oh, and I did attempt to get this out to the public. I called several stations, talked to many papers, and even wrote my own articles to be placed in the paper and paid for it out of my own pocket. And do you know what the result was? Exactly, you haven't heard about it.
I'm not letting it go either btw. I'm holding on like a pit bull latched onto someone's ballsack. Like I said in earlier posts, I had all the required screenings and paperwork done prior to buying the land. There was NOTHING out of the ordinary or else I couldn't have bought it in the first place. They have showed me the copies of their tests and I told them to their faces they were full of ****. I said that if the results were true to let me get my own sample and run it through an independent lab and get my own results they bottled up REAL fast and said that just wasn't possible. When I asked why they got up from the table and walked out.
As it stands right now I'm working on getting my money back. I pumped about 300k into this altogether and right now they are stalling at 100k. Thats better than the 50k they first offered but still lowballin the hell out of me.
Oh, and I did attempt to get this out to the public. I called several stations, talked to many papers, and even wrote my own articles to be placed in the paper and paid for it out of my own pocket. And do you know what the result was? Exactly, you haven't heard about it.
It's a CDC research facility where they do testing on the effects of different waterborne pathogens, viruses, and bacteria.
Yep, if it's not the White House dumb ass shooting skeet or a celebrity making up a girlfriend, then it isn't reported as news anymore. O has the media sewn up. Makes me sick to think that my kids are going to be dealing with this crap.
And that is what scares the living **** out of me. These idots are messing with things they have no reason to be messing with thinking that they are in control. If history proves one thing over and over again is that we are in control of nothing. **** will blow up in our faces at the worse possible time and will **** us up the ass without the benefit of a kiss or reach around.
All of this just gives me an overwhelming feeling of sadness that our nation has fallen to it's knees like this. I wouldn't have ever imagined the things that they pull now if you had told me what was to come 25 years ago. It makes me sad that our youngest girl has never known the pride that we once had to be American, that she has a hard time seeing why my family left Ireland to come here.
I agree Anorak. Makes me madder than hell. But I can guarantee you one damn thing. I'm like 95% Irish and actually lived in Ireland when I was a kid with my grandparents and I'm soooooooo filing for dual citizenship. If I can get it approved...well lets just say I'll be looking for some damn leperchauns!!
Yeah I know. And it pisses me off that the ******* bastard changed the pledge of allegiance too. Stupid bastard need to just shut his mouth and not do ANYTHING else for the rest of his bloody term!!!! Damn morons who elected him need to be taken out and staked on an ant bed imho.
I'm not sure how the dual citizenship would work if you weren't born there. I know that I can own land there without having to pay all the taxes a foreigner would have to because most of my family is still there.
My daughter showed me this the other day.
The New Pledge of Allegiance
Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.
If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.
Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.
For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.
We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.
We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's "inappropriate" to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such "judgments" do not belong.
We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.
It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen
The New Pledge of Allegiance
Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.
If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.
Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.
For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.
We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks.
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.
We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's "inappropriate" to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such "judgments" do not belong.
We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.
It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen
You are 100% right and it will blow up or escape and it is going to suck when it happens. I see it every day. The government preparing more and more for the Civil War they know is coming. Just look at everything that has happened in the past few months. They will attempt to take away as much as possible to try to stop it. Like your land Phoenix, and that guy who was arrested and bad his gun collection confiscated for no reason. Homeland Security and the ATF is beginning to move on everyone they know has big gun collections and large mounts of ammo. Thy are moving on people's land with bunkers ( like Phoenix's). I will tell everyone to get ready and hide what you can because they can do almost anything under the Patriot Act. They had no reason to take that mans guns destroy them and arrest him but they did with no problem, and had no right to destroy your bunker but they did. They do not care, they just want to remove as much of the threat as possible, and then they will act to take away everything.
Remember everyone all great superpowers and nations will collapse. Nothing last forever, just look throughout history and you will see that our time is short and I too feel terrible and greatly saddened that our children did not and will not ever know what it's like to be in a great America filled with pride and a Country where people want to work hard and take pride in what they do no matter what. That is all gone and I am concerned that it will never return. This Government we have now is useless and does not have the power to return America to Glory. I served this once Great Nation from 1994-2012 in the US Army and the reserves. I was proud to defend our nation and its Constitution and I put my life on the line many times to do it. With 2 tours in Iraq, and 10 deployments since 2000 to the Middle East and Southeast, Southwest Asia. I was injured in Iraq in 2009 and was Medically retired Nov. 2012. I was proud of my service until recently when our Government and Commander in Chief, who was never in the military by the way! Pulled all this BS and crap. Now I would not re enlist even for 100,000 dollars. I could never shoot US Civilians for no reason, and arrest with no justifiable cause. My service is done now, and I can hold my head high as I had a great career with a perfect record and excellent evaluations. I did my best and put in 110% every day. I now can barely walk and have permanent nerve damage down the whole right side of my body, and my Cervical Spine was damaged along with my right shoulder. I have had 6 surgeries and 7-8 are on the way, but there are no regrets as I am a Patriot and loved my country enough to sacrifice my life in defense of her. I just don't think there is anything to defend anymore though.
Army127, thank you for your service. I am sorry that the current occupant of the white house has fu&@ed every thing up so badly. Unfortunately I feel the same way that our once great nation is in a state of decline. I fear for my children's future. God SAVE America.
Thanks Wiredog and it is really not good. I don't know what this country will look like in four years, but I hope it stays together. I did read some good news about the gun legislation, that the Senate is not going for the assault weapons ban any,ore and will not include it in any gun control bill. It also looks like it will be even tougher in the House to gent most of it through. So at least that may be a little better on us. We will see in the coming weeks and months though. Still a lot of crazy bills at the State level all over the Country, have to wait and see how many of those pass.
I know your pain Army. Served 8 years in the Army (99-07) and served four tours overseas, two in Iraq and two in Afghanistan, recieved two purple hearts and a bronze star during my time there, and got discharged from my secound wound, two rounds in my left hip that destroyed the joint and made it hell to walk much less march with gear. I get so angry sometimes because of everything I went through and all the friends and comrades that gave it all in service to this country. And now our country is taking away the very rights that we fought, bled, and died for. There are times I just shake my head and wonder what the hell it was all for? Because it sure as hell isn't for the America that I thought I lived in. The America that I grew up in and was taught that hard work and dedication can take you all the way to the top.
Yeah, I'm pissed that they destroyed my bunker, and that they took my property. But those things can be replaced and with the training I recived in the Army I can survive, and take down damn near anyone that comes after me. What pisses me off the most is the 13 men that were like brothers to me that I put in the ground. For their family that I had to call and tell them what really happened and listen to them crying and screaming and greiving over their lost son, brother, father and friend. Knowing that they followed my orders and were killed doing so FOR A COUNTRY THAT IS GOING TO ****!!!!!
And the saddest part of it all? Is that people are lining up to throw their rights at the feet of some stupid bastard that doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. I mentioned this once before but I remember a saying and it goes like this. "Those who are willing to give up freedom for peace are worthy of neither." To all those people who are giving up their freedoms for safety all I can say is I hope that they have neither and remember that they screwed themselves on both counts...
Yeah, I'm pissed that they destroyed my bunker, and that they took my property. But those things can be replaced and with the training I recived in the Army I can survive, and take down damn near anyone that comes after me. What pisses me off the most is the 13 men that were like brothers to me that I put in the ground. For their family that I had to call and tell them what really happened and listen to them crying and screaming and greiving over their lost son, brother, father and friend. Knowing that they followed my orders and were killed doing so FOR A COUNTRY THAT IS GOING TO ****!!!!!
And the saddest part of it all? Is that people are lining up to throw their rights at the feet of some stupid bastard that doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. I mentioned this once before but I remember a saying and it goes like this. "Those who are willing to give up freedom for peace are worthy of neither." To all those people who are giving up their freedoms for safety all I can say is I hope that they have neither and remember that they screwed themselves on both counts...
I am with you brother. I fought for this Country for most of my adult life and have deployed over 10 times to the Middle East, Southwest, and Southeast Asia. I was thrown aside like a broken bicycle when I injured my spine in 2009. It took 3 years and in 2012 after the Med unit did nothing, never even advanced my packet out of their office to start a med board I just took an Honorable Medical Discharge and walked away. I got my medals and ribbons but they don't mean much when I think of all the guys who didn't come back, or didn't come back whole. I have struggled mightily to keep it together since taking the discharge. I see the faces every night as soon as I close my eyes and they will always be with me, as your guys will always be with you.
We re elected a bunch of idiots who know nothing about foreign policy or how to run the Military and a President who wants to be a king. I fear in four years this may be the Socialist Republic of America. I want to move out of NJ but my wife who sees nothing and thinks everything is great refuses to go. It is time for me to make a decision and I am not sure what I will do. I have run out of answers and hope my son has a Country to call home when he grows up. I am with you all the way Phoenix and I hope that most of this stupid crap is stopped before it becomes law but who knows. NJ is voting on 24 bills next week that will make owning a gun in this state impossible. I am not sure what to do but have been writing every day for a month to my State Assemblyman and the Committee in charge of sending these bills for a vote. I just feel that most of this Country believes that they are privileged and should have what ever they want and that if they put their hand out someone will give to them. Or if they have enough money they can just buy their way in. We are so far gone from what the founding fathers wanted this country to be that it will never recover. Like I said every superpower in history has fallen and I think it's finally our time. I am not sure we could stop it if we tried.
We re elected a bunch of idiots who know nothing about foreign policy or how to run the Military and a President who wants to be a king. I fear in four years this may be the Socialist Republic of America. I want to move out of NJ but my wife who sees nothing and thinks everything is great refuses to go. It is time for me to make a decision and I am not sure what I will do. I have run out of answers and hope my son has a Country to call home when he grows up. I am with you all the way Phoenix and I hope that most of this stupid crap is stopped before it becomes law but who knows. NJ is voting on 24 bills next week that will make owning a gun in this state impossible. I am not sure what to do but have been writing every day for a month to my State Assemblyman and the Committee in charge of sending these bills for a vote. I just feel that most of this Country believes that they are privileged and should have what ever they want and that if they put their hand out someone will give to them. Or if they have enough money they can just buy their way in. We are so far gone from what the founding fathers wanted this country to be that it will never recover. Like I said every superpower in history has fallen and I think it's finally our time. I am not sure we could stop it if we tried.
I have some family that had property "condemed". They rejected a cell companies request to lease the land for a cell tower. it was later "condemed', taken, and the the tower is up. Long time legal action is expected to result in a cash settlement, but the tower will not be going anywhere.
What is the point of land ownership these days?? If it's not really ours why do we pay taxes on it?
i swear, everything I have learned growing up, about our freedoms was an illusion. We are not really free, just allowed to live as if we are as long as it does not become inconvienent.
Forget the local press. I think someone like Glen Beck would eat your story up and make it huge!
What is the point of land ownership these days?? If it's not really ours why do we pay taxes on it?
i swear, everything I have learned growing up, about our freedoms was an illusion. We are not really free, just allowed to live as if we are as long as it does not become inconvienent.
- I am angery that they could condem and take the land
- shocked that they could blow up you possessions
- awe struck that they would admit that is was because you are representing a lack of trust in the gov to "take care of us". (you really have that in writing?!)
- scared that I could be putting my family and myself at greater risk just reading and writing in places like this. The thought that they would care enough to put in the resources to monitor and even take action at individuals like us is one I am just waking up to. I have begun prepping for tornadoes, for power outages and snow storms. I prep for possible job loss or the devaluation of the dollar. I prep because I love my family and if, someday, there is no food for them to eat it will be my fault. I don't care if it was a natural disaster, war, economic collapse, or someone taking the food away from us. It will be my fault, not the governments, not anyone elses. If that ability is taken away from me you will illicit the fight or flight response. Interesting that this thought chain has caused me to suddenly reevaluate my thought on imigration. If I were in Mexico with my family and could not provide, I think I may come to america legal or not. I would do whatever it takes.
Forget the local press. I think someone like Glen Beck would eat your story up and make it huge!
Hey Army here are some military poems that I found that struck a cord with me while I was in and thinking about how true they were to me then, and still true to me now. Hope you like them.
COMBAT
Roaring noises, Screaming voices
Metal flying there and here
Eyes are burning, Guts are churning
Men are fighting full of fear
Guns are smoking, lungs are choking
Thru it all, godawful smell
I hear crying, men are dying
I'm alive, but I'm in hell!
WEAPONS
There are many types of weapons
But the ones that hurt the most
Are the weapons made of memories
And the deadly midnight ghost.
Not all wounds are red and bloody
There are wounds that touch the mind
These are wounds that always fester
They're the never healing kind.
Why are we who've done our duty
Plagued by wounds that never heal
Made by weapons of our memories
Which are worse than lead and steel
And Here is my all time favorite Poem. I read this after I was given the Bronze Star and people were just so impressed. Kind of summed up what I couldn't find the words for. Everytime I heard someone tell me that they were proud of me or that I was so brave or any of the other bologna people who haven't been there say to soldiers I wanted to scream and go off on them.
MEDALS
Don't envy a man his medals
All those ribbons on his chest
He did not try to get them
They're not there at his request
They were earned in stinking hell holes
Where no man would like to go
Or in cold and wintry places
Where there's only ice and snow
He did not know he earned them
Till they were awarded at parade
And they were bright when he first got them
But in time the colors fade
He was told he had to wear them
And to wear them all with pride
But when the memories come to haunt him
Those same medals make him hide
Cause those medals will not bring back
All those guys he left behind
And he would trade them all forever
For a little peace of mind
So don't envy a man his medals
You don't want to take his place
Thinking back to long gone battles
And meeting dead friends face to face
Hope you guys like these.
COMBAT
Roaring noises, Screaming voices
Metal flying there and here
Eyes are burning, Guts are churning
Men are fighting full of fear
Guns are smoking, lungs are choking
Thru it all, godawful smell
I hear crying, men are dying
I'm alive, but I'm in hell!
WEAPONS
There are many types of weapons
But the ones that hurt the most
Are the weapons made of memories
And the deadly midnight ghost.
Not all wounds are red and bloody
There are wounds that touch the mind
These are wounds that always fester
They're the never healing kind.
Why are we who've done our duty
Plagued by wounds that never heal
Made by weapons of our memories
Which are worse than lead and steel
And Here is my all time favorite Poem. I read this after I was given the Bronze Star and people were just so impressed. Kind of summed up what I couldn't find the words for. Everytime I heard someone tell me that they were proud of me or that I was so brave or any of the other bologna people who haven't been there say to soldiers I wanted to scream and go off on them.
MEDALS
Don't envy a man his medals
All those ribbons on his chest
He did not try to get them
They're not there at his request
They were earned in stinking hell holes
Where no man would like to go
Or in cold and wintry places
Where there's only ice and snow
He did not know he earned them
Till they were awarded at parade
And they were bright when he first got them
But in time the colors fade
He was told he had to wear them
And to wear them all with pride
But when the memories come to haunt him
Those same medals make him hide
Cause those medals will not bring back
All those guys he left behind
And he would trade them all forever
For a little peace of mind
So don't envy a man his medals
You don't want to take his place
Thinking back to long gone battles
And meeting dead friends face to face
Hope you guys like these.
I was kind of in the same boat. Once my hip got tore to shreads they dicked me around and never got me my med board or anything. From what I understand I'm owed like 50% disability AT LEAST. I got my paperwork in with the VA but you know how they are.
Hopefully in your case they will get you some added benefits and money. And God I hope they don't pass gun bans in your state. Stupid people lining up to give their freedom away. But like Rome, as long as the Games and Circuses continue unabated for the populace they won't care what happens, even when Hannibal is knocking on the Gates.
Hopefully in your case they will get you some added benefits and money. And God I hope they don't pass gun bans in your state. Stupid people lining up to give their freedom away. But like Rome, as long as the Games and Circuses continue unabated for the populace they won't care what happens, even when Hannibal is knocking on the Gates.
Thanks Phoenix and I really like the Medals one. It rings so true and well hell I like and relate to every one of them. I appreciate that you shared them with me and if its ok I'd like to print them so I have them to read from time to time, and maybe share with some others.
We drift apart after the Combat is done
We find excuses to skip the BBQ or Holiday party
They ask where we have been, but then even that ends
I look up from my thoughts one day and they are all gone
All gone except for the nights when they all return in my dreams
The pain is silent, quiet and draining, yet somehow I get out of bed
And all the pictures and voices go away until sleep hits me again
The memories return night after night and I know they will never leave.
I just wrote that one now wanted to share something with you as well.
Just keep fighting the VA. I have been battling them for over 3 years and up to 60% now but should be 80% with 100% until I am done with all these surgeries. So the fight goes on and I am submitting yet another statement in supper of my claim with more evidence so we shall see. I am praying that the 24 stupid bills don't even get past the committee but who knows with crazy NJ. Thanks again Phoenix for the poems
Phoenix, my parents are in FL so maybe one day we can catch a beer together its always nice to meet a fellow brother. Message me if you want to grab one sometime. I will let you know the next time I am in FL.
