I prep for myself, my family and friends. I wouldn't be above some short term charity, but in a SHTF situation, a stranger is a potential threat, first and foremost. I personally would like to establish some kind of bartering trade post, where we trade excess supplies/services for other goods from other survivors, if everything collapsed...but not looking to give things away for nothing. No such thing as a free lunch and all that.
Will you share with the unprepared?
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what the hell does she think shes doing when she goes grocery shopping ? shes prepping for the next few weeks ! does she share her groceries with her neighbors?
I'm prepping for my family NOT the neighborhood. My concern my responsibility is too my family if that's greed so be it, I am the one who has worked, who has purchased who has paid the taxes, who has maintained the store NOT DHS FEMA nor the neighborhood. It is hard to feel bad for the complacent and for the one's that believed the government to be all things including their security blanket. My purchases have helped maintain the economy, put money in the state coffers, I have made sure there is 2 less people the feds have to worry about when SHTF and I lived as an upright citizen so, my civic duty has been done!
nice response!
I will. My goal is to help get people stable again and rebuild whatever has been lost. I would want to get shored up and then see how much I can do to help others get squared away. I feel a civic duty to do that if things really got bad.
If the fecal matter hits the fan and all hell breaks loose, I highly doubt i am helping anyone but my family. If it looks like it is just short term situation that's a different story.
Principles you profess today might disintegrate WTSHTF. Self preservation is instinct.
Well said !
If you have it, and refuse to help somebody else, you better be prepared to defend what you have. I believe the more people I can bring into my circle to assist in defense the better. I cannot protect my own 24/7. And once the word is out I have more then the rest, everybody and their brother will be trying to take it.
How could you trust a stranger in that situation ? So you would give out supply's on the fear that masses are going to take it ? Then they wipe you out of supply's and what are you going to do then ? Depend on a stranger ?
bsflagi'am not going down that road, thanks for conformation on my plan. No disrespect everyone has a different plan.
If you depend on the other guy ,you will end up on the short end of the stick
Not exactly, what I'm saying is; if people surrounding you know you are prepared, they may band together to take what you have. What I'm suggesting is I would likely bring in some people who I know have skills, if we are speaking of an absolute end to life as we know it. If you think of your situation, most would be lying to themselves if you think you can lone wolf it, if you leave your property to gather or hunt, who is going to protect it from others? If you have a wife and small children at home and you leave and the 10 people you turned away return once they know you have left, then what? Being realistic, I know if there is no end to whatever crisis, I will need help. I won't likely take in strangers off the street, as I have friends and family I would bring in first, as they know I have trained heavily over the years in survival skills. I teach survival tactics, firearms, knife fighting, and test equipment for many suppliers. I live in an area where prepping long out-dates current fears. In my area nearly every home is likely to have an assault rifle or two, and people are more likely to have weapons then a surplus of food. People will do whatever it takes to survive, including kill you and take yours. So what I'm suggesting is a plan, strength for the long survival will be in numbers, it wouldn't take a lot, just a few, other guys I know who are righteous family men, may not have the ability or the mindset to prep right now, it doesn't mean I will turn my back on them.
Well that is a little different then what you first said. I see the method to your madness . Lol
Sounds like you should have your OWN prepper show on T.V.................................... I would watch it , being the realistic dude I am.
Sorry, I was typing on my phone, and had to keep it short, but I really didn't get to the point.
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I will do what I'm doing now - if people need help, I'll hire them. You don't work, you don't eat.
BTW, for those that don't know, that's Biblical: 2nd Thessalonians 3:10
BTW, for those that don't know, that's Biblical: 2nd Thessalonians 3:10
I'll help if I'm able, but along the biblical lines... I won't throw my pearls before swine. That said, I don't know if I could just let someone die when I know I could do something to save them and helping folks comes naturally to me. However in an post apocalyptic situation I'm sure my mentality will be vastly different.
I would, but I fear being seen as a target. Share with one and they tell five others I've got food and suddenly I'm either 7-11 or the Red Cross or worse a UN mission to feed the sheeple. I feel sorry for the children who will be effected in a SHTF situation. But I am not a grocery store or a charity organization. Short term....I'll have to think about that. Long term? Hell no. I hate sounding heartless and uncaring, but family comes first. Sheeple a distant distant second.
Almost everyone in my immediate neighborhood and outer neighborhoods have their food storage in order (live in the country, close knit community) so I don't worry about them as much as I do about those coming over the mountain from Ogden thinking that they can just come up here and find somewhere or someone to live with when the SHTF. We have our food storage in order and are constantly adding to it but certainly don't have enough to feed anyone other than immediate family. I was curious for anyone wanting to help others who would and should have to help out what security measures do you take to make sure that they can't make off with your food and other stores in the middle of the night or worse yet bring in others with the same goal? (not trying to rag on anyone - really hope it doesn't sound that way. Was just curious in case I ever find myself in this kind of situation for helping others)
You can give a man a fish or teach him to fish give a man corn or teach him to make a garden . Most of my nieghbors know these things . You know Wall Street fell but we could'nt tell . But there are towns and cities near that would be a sorce of trouble . I will secure my area first any dealings with others will be on the individual bases each case could be dealt with as needed . But I'm big on one being responsible for ones self .
Certainly a valid question. I'm all for helping others, as I think that in such a world, the extra personnel are simply added defense...but as they are also an added burden, they'll need to pull their weight to make them an asset vs. a liability.
Security wise, you limit the number of newbies to only that which you can feasibly provide for immediately, and to those you can guard at night. We'd all be sleeping in shifts anyhow, but newbies would have to be supervised at all times (even when sleeping). There would be an evaluation period, to ensure they liked it here, we liked them, etc.
As for them bringing in others, newbies would be supervised, so wouldn't have the chance to signal, communicate, etc. Also, you'd want scouts and other ways to know what's going on around you, to at least detect some large incoming group, prior to them really finding you.
This is really going to be the major SHTF challenge, trusting other humans, and balancing that trust with security measures.
According to vampire lore.......................You have to INVITE them in .
