Will you take the upcoming COVID vaccine?

[user 7368]

Updated the link again, thanks for pointing it out.

https://www.wochenblick.at/impfstof...-beschreibt-lebensbedrohliche-nebenwirkungen/

 

[lonewolf]

Looks like it has been taken down.

Since the pharmaceutical companies have been given immunity from lawsuits, there is no recourse if you have serious side effects. That alone is cause for suspicion.

I've been saying that here even since the vaccines were announced, unfortunately the UK is full of sheeple and they are all hard of hearing.

 

[user 7368]

Fortunately, people like you are the exception, you should lead people to the right direction or at least bring skepticism back to life in them.

 

[lonewolf]

apart from a few preppers I know in England every non prepper seems to think its the new elixir and all they care about is getting back to "normal", I have even been accused of harming public health for my refusal to vaccinate, I am not anti vaccinations just anti this one.
the fact that the vaccine manufacturers (even the UK ones) are exempt from legal proceedings if there are serious side effects makes me very suspicious.

 

[user 7368]

Now you don't have to be amazed how brainwashed mankind is, the last few months only propaganda has been rained down on us and only ever talked about the promised vaccination, not a word what else you can do for your health. Now what most people want is available and the government has been locking us in for a few weeks more and more, the goal is that all of them want to be vaccinated. What we are not told is that there is no great freedom even after the vaccination, with this information we are still waiting, because if you say that now, many are guaranteed not to be vaccinated.
If then many vaccinations will be given, then the politicians will say that the vaccination protection is not so effective that we can be given back the freedoms, it will all be a fully written fact and lie in the drawer. At the moment the politicians are still using the opportunity to divide the population by turning skeptics into a snail through the media and through the storm Gestapo, but that will not work in many cases, but they will make us very hot.

Stand firm and arouse skepticism in those who still work, it is a good opportunity to make true friends, because Corona will not be the last.

 

[Amish Heart]

I still crack up when I say that I don't need the vaccine because I now have the antibodies because I had the China plague. Some people respond with, "How do you know?". And then go on to say the only way is to get the shot and they can't wait. Ha Ha. How do they know? Common sense says I'm immune. Not so sure that shot will make you immune.

 

[lonewolf]

nobody is immune, people who have had it can still get it again, anti bodies only last a short time.

 

[Amish Heart]

If you follow that logic, then the vaccine only lasts a short time.

 

[DrHenley]

The immunity from the vaccine or from having it doesn't need to be permanent or 100% to stop the pandemic. All it needs to do is lower the R0 factor to less than 1 and the pandemic will die out. The last time I checked, in the U.S. it is 1.3.

 

[lonewolf]

If you follow that logic, then the vaccine only lasts a short time.

yes, the Moderna vaccine is only good for "up to" 3 months, the others are probably very similar.

 

[lonewolf]

The immunity from the vaccine or from having it doesn't need to be permanent or 100% to stop the pandemic. All it needs to do is lower the R0 factor to less than 1 and the pandemic will die out. The last time I checked, in the U.S. it is 1.3.

the R rate in the UK is currently between 0.9 and 1.

 

[user 7368]

Healthy 40 year old nurse died in Portugal two days after Corona vaccination, which will be very expensive for the authorities to justify. No one has to tell me that the stuff is safe and protects 95%. Very tragic individual fates and most will not be reported in the media.

 

[Dave V]

Healthy 40 year old nurse died in Portugal two days after Corona vaccination, which will be very expensive for the authorities to justify. No one has to tell me that the stuff is safe and protects 95%. Very tragic individual fates and most will not be reported in the media.

Come on, we can do better at not jumping on the media's bandwagon...no offense meant.
Fact check: Nurse who fainted after COVID-19 vaccine did not die | Reuters

 

[Mountain trapper]

The wife and I both had the china flu recently. It wasn't pleasant but neither one of us will EVER take the BS vaccine, nor will we wear the stupid face diapers. When we had the flu we never left the property for several weeks, which is normal for us. I can't believe the number of people who are so gullible and ignorant and so willing to bend over and grab their ankles at all the government mandates concerning this virus.

 

[Amish Heart]

Then why bother getting vaccinated??????

 

[Mountain trapper]

Then why bother getting vaccinated??????

We no no intention of ever getting vaccinated. But it is an individual call though.

 

[tmttactical]

When hades freezes over, then I will get in line for the vaccine. I will let the herd build the immunity by being lab test animals. I will pass on that experience.

 

[Amish Heart]

There's enough of us that have already had it in my community. I think we're good.

 

[Kevin L]

Which would be just a bit longer than the rest of my life...
This is like holding a stick of dynamite and telling everyone "see, it's safe... I'm holding it and I'm just fine. Come on into this room full of this stuff. Oh, and sure, smoke them if you got them." Right...

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How long does this immunity last? Don't know. What happens with exposure long term with this vaccine? No idea. How does this interact with every known prescription drug? Can't say. What about cocktails of various prescription and non-prescription drugs interacting with this? Blank stare. That's even more true with things like cancer treatments, how many people on Chemo were involved in this study? They'll get back to you.

And how about this. Survival rates are 99+%. That number goes down 90% further when you take vitamin D. It goes even further if you take zinc supplements. At what point does the virus risk drop to your every day risks from car accidents, falling pianos, snake bites, violent crimes, etc? I'm thrilled that there are people willing to sacrifice themselves to this experiment. Break a leg. Just expect resistance when you insist that also become a guinea pig. No thank you.

I understand and respect your opinion, even if I disagree with you.

It is certainly possible (but unlikely) that there may be serious, unanticipated, and/or even life-threatening consequences to the COVID 19 vaccines. In the 1970s, our government overreacted to a flu epidemic, and people got Guillian-Barre syndrome from the vaccine, and this medical condition can be life-threatening, and requires extensive hospitalization. Part of this vaccine issue had to do with the government rushing the vaccine into production before adequate testing had been completed, and this strain of flu turned out to be much less dangerous than had been initially assumed.

Yet I still believe that taking the vaccine is the best choice.

One point that TexasFreedom left out are possible long-term consequences of surviving COVID 19. When one has had Hepatitis B--for example--the survivors often develop liver cancer. If one has genital warts from a virus, then cervical cancer can occur later in life.

Having the flu can also cause you to develop Parkinson's Disease later in life. If you've ever seen that movie Awakenings (with Robin Williams), then you know it's based on a true story. The catatonic patients in that movie were survivors of the flu, and having the flu did that to them years and decades after they had recovered from the illness.

I have been working at a local hospital as an EKG specialist ( I am an ex-paramedic), and I've seen the huge amount of damage that COVID can do to the human body.

I'm not a physician, but--as I have worked in healthcare for 30 years--my gut instinct makes me believe that there will be long-term consequences to the COVID survivors, as I don't see how that much damage can be done by this virus and have there not be any long-term consequences.

So, I got the shot today at my hospital . . . and yes, it seems a lot more painful than a flu shot. I also got minor joint pain and swollen glands, but so what

 

[GaRp58]

Yet I still believe that taking the vaccine is the best choice.

PLEASE READ CLOSELY KEVIN, YOU WERE "IN THE MEDICAL FIELD" FOR 30 YEARS:::BUT NOT A DOCTOR. You should consider what I translated from Germany, written by a Doctor, describing the side-effects and also the UN-EFFECTIVENESS of the Covid-19 vaccine...Love, Gary

VACCINE-REGISTRATION PROTOCOL: DESCRIBES LIFE-THREATENING SIDE EFFECTS


That the devil is mostly in the small print, is an actual truth of life. And, especially with the Corona Vaccine, it looks like NOBODY is caring about this problem very much…

Tired from lockdowns and mentally foggy from the holy promises of healing from the politicians and media; countless numbers of people are ready to take the shot…IN BLIND TRUST ON THE SAFETY AND EFFECTS.

The big Pharma has always been trusted to assume that most person will never read the packaging in meds and never worry about the side-effects. Who reads the packaging about side-effects??? Just as long as the drugs content has been tested and used for years and as long as only a minimum of users ever have any of the known but unwanted damages to their health, this no longer is a large problem…



SHOCKING CONTENT OF THE REGISTRATION PROTOCOL



This makes it even more interesting, as the vaccine has been developed at full gallop, that much money and political pressuring to horse-whip the Experimental-Vaccine against Corona, that neither the normal citizen nor the MSM are interested, WHAT IS BEING RELEASED ON THE OPEN PUBLIC.

Someone finally did though…The Doctor from the city of Kassel in Germany, Zacharias Fögen, has written a 376 page report: Official Protocol of the Investigation of the security and effectiveness of the Covid-19 Vaccine. We are talking about the central document which was actually used by the production duo, PFIZER AND BIONTECH, in the registration process in America, to the FDA. Dr. Fögen has read and evaluated this document and is shocked by the contents of it.



DREADFULLY NEEDED MEDICAL ACTION IS NEEDED

The words “life-endangering” are around a dozen times mentioned in the document. BUT, not one time is the fact that 44 from 44,000 tested persons mention that they actually had life-endangering reactions----they just used the words.<Dreadfully needed medical attention> in the protocol. What was said of the shown test results was, that the only thing which could be recorded was, they could only show that in 3 cases were they able to prevent a serious case of sickness with the Corona virus. THIS MEANS THAT IN 7000 VACCINATED PERSONS, ONLY A SINGLE PERSON HAD ANY PROFIT FROM THE EFFECTIVENESS.

In addition, 84 % showed more or less bad reactions to the Vaccine. On top of that, again up to another 84% of the test persons showed undesired reactions to the Vaccine. Especially the younger persons and those who took the second dose reported from “heavy impacts on their daily routine”.



PROTECTION FOR ONLY 1 PERCENT



Since the positive effects of the Vaccine are all other than inspirational: considering the total count of the good 18,000 partakers of the study, the vaccine only “protected” 154 persons—less than one percent of the invaccinated.

Dr. Fögen draws the conclusion: since any support for the health of the test persons cannot be awaited, considering the proven Vaccine reactions and side-effects, ---he presents the posing question_ “WHY INVACCINATE AT ALL??”

I FINISH HERE KEVIN; WITH THE STATEMENT FROM YOUR LAST COMMENT HERE. PLEASE RE-READ YOUR OWN COMMENT AND I HOPE YOU HAVE NO SIDE-EFFECTS FROM YOUR INVACCINATION!!!

In the 1970s, our government overreacted to a flu epidemic, and people got Guillian-Barre syndrome from the vaccine, and this medical condition can be life-threatening, and requires extensive hospitalization. Part of this vaccine issue had to do with the government rushing the vaccine into production before adequate testing had been completed, and this strain of flu turned out to be much less dangerous than had been initially assumed.

 

[GaRp58]

Looks like it has been taken down.

Since the pharmaceutical companies have been given immunity from lawsuits, there is no recourse if you have serious side effects. That alone is cause for suspicion.

IT WAS TAKEN DOWN DOC, BUT NOT BEFORE I COULD TRANSLATE IT::::, Gary

 

[lonewolf]

even if the vaccine is safe-which I dont believe for a moment- the UK govt are playing politics with the vaccinations, they have moved the second jab from 3 weeks to 3 MONTHS so instead of getting a full dose you get two half ones which might not give the same "immunity". and in some cases its not even the same vaccine, the first could be the Pfizer vaccine the second the Oxford one.
makes me wonder why anyone has it.

 

[GeorgiaPeachie]

I still crack up when I say that I don't need the vaccine because I now have the antibodies because I had the China plague. Some people respond with, "How do you know?". And then go on to say the only way is to get the shot and they can't wait. Ha Ha. How do they know? Common sense says I'm immune. Not so sure that shot will make you immune.

Very logical. The world ends up with at least one new flu every single year. That vaccine for the yearly flu only helps a very small percentage of folks. It’s about money in the vaccine industry.

 

[GaRp58]

How many times have FIREMEN AND WOMEN, set fires so they could do their job and look like heros?
How many times have doctors done illegal tests to try to get famous and look like heros?
How many times have no name persons, faked a kidnapping or such to get famous?
How many times did we get a virus on our computers, made from ANTI-VIRUS companies?
How many electronic devices were sold to us with a PRE-PLANNED virus, programmed to make the device "die" short after the guarantee ran out???
HOW MANY VIRUS AND FLU "SEASONS" HAVE WE GOTTEN FROM THE VACCINE COMPANIES??????

 

[user 7368]

I read today in a German website that Sleeping Jo's followers are slowly becoming politically active, they want to bring such an old program to life to get "dangerous people" out of circulation and, if necessary, in the same process, forced vaccination, does that tell you anything about what is written here?

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416
If this happens, it would be a declaration of war on the state and then I will also be very radical. Apparently the democrats are keen on a civil war or want to start one at any price, I think the end of the world is not far away, it will be a downfall of the whole culture. Apparently it's serious to start it now, if that's the way it is, you can have it, I'll wait a little longer, but I see the ultimate War coming our way.

 

[OldButtoni]

More good vaccine news.......... NOT! Young Doctor Left Paralyzed MINUTES After Taking Pfizer ‘Covid-19’ Vaccine in Mexico

 

[Amish Heart]

ban1985: your newspaper articles about the US are pretty messed up

 

[user 7368]

Sorry I couldn't get any better info in this censorship leftist media in Europe, here everyone is cheering about Jo and a German TV presenter made the statement Trump should be jailed for life or punished with death....

Politicians here would also like to have a vaccination compulsory, you wait for it until the first country does that.

 

[OldButtoni]

The new human ID system China and New World Order are pushing:
https://www.brighteon.com/a12f56ab-1e07-49ee-8b5d-0ee11d2b560d

 

[Dave2001]

all of our guys took the second dose yesterday and today they are so sick they can hardly walk,