With shock I did the math for sustainable survival

[Nam-hunt]

Are you a traditional bushman mate, or a product of the techno world? Survivalism, or prepping as it's now called, is just a *******ized mix of hunting experiences, religion, camping trips, military training and now, a Billion youtube vids made by 30 year olds. From my perspective very little of what is called prepping is of much value, it's mostly all about planning for a zombie apocalypse that will probably never come, and in it's place is coming a totalitarian world government that will require a different sort of prepping.

Biltong, is that the ANCHOR in your preps? if I wanted to eat that I wouldn't waste my time making it, I'd just buy a hundred long salami sticks. Salami can be kept safely unrefrigerated for several years, but if biltong is your thing, here, Perfect Biltong Recipe—South African Beef Jerky - Greedy Ferret

As for my chops, I have been at this for nearly 20 years now, I have more knives than a camping shop, more spare solar panels than an electronics store, a fully stocked bug-out-van from the 1970's, and have thrown out more bug infested rice, sugar and oats than you could eat in a year. My advice is plan for a future where you will be living in one place rather than roaming the hills in search of wild game. But I have no idea of your situation other than you live in south Africa, and being there, I hope for your sake you are black.

Note to Mods: I used the work 'Anchor' in this post so you may want to move it to a boating thread...

Seems your prepping was rather short term planning and lack sustainability.
Yes I am on the other side of black spectrum and that is a challenge in South Africa. The final destination of refuge is Namibia and not ignoring Botswana.
We dont buy salami.... we make it... and may variants of it as well.

 

[Dracos]

All the real estate salesmen and women trying to get people to buy land in Costa Rica remind me of a spider trying to get flies to move to her web.

 

[backandbeyond]

Seems your prepping was rather short term planning and lack sustainability.
Yes I am on the other side of black spectrum and that is a challenge in South Africa. The final destination of refuge is Namibia and not ignoring Botswana.
We dont buy salami.... we make it... and may variants of it as well.

We all make mistakes in the early days, that's just life, in any complex pursuit. One thing I know now though, governments, even warlords, protect the means of food production. The Roman invasion of Egypt over 2000 years ago was all about securing grain for their hungry masses. Same with Stalin's occupation of the Ukraine, and benign governments keep a close eye on internal production. Social stability is at the heart of it, they learnt that from the French revolution, hungry people rebel. I chose to move out into the middle of a food producing region, one that wont be bulldozed for housing developments in the years ahead.

Cities are an obvious target for destruction, as we saw in WWII, but farmland far away? That is my plan for the future, no home farming, no chickens, just a few years worth of protein and luxury items stored up, and faith that whatever happens in the future the myriad of farms and cattle ranchers around me will still be producing to some degree. If they are not then I doubt any other long term option would work.

Well anyway, good luck with your plans there, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes for Quids as they say. I have met quite a few expat South Africans in my time, Australia was one of their big migration destinations, and it's not a pretty sight over there.

 

[backandbeyond]

if you ever looked at a map you would realise the British mainland is an Island! sorry, couldnt resist that one!!
I live in a rural area but my neighbours know very little about me and thats the way I like it.

My neighbors know little of me as well, I project the image of a semi-retired contractor who is basically a stereotype city born consumer, which I am to a good degree lol. I never discuss the future, I just chat amicably about the now as they all do. My biggest challenge if the SHTF will be losing lots of weight, as they all will be no doubt.

Have you seen those images of Venezuelans, 40lb lighter in a year for most of them and they weren't all that beefy to start with.

Pets on the Menu as Venezuelans Starve
https://www.thedailybeast.com/zoo-animals-on-the-menu-as-venezuelans-starve
Some of them are well fed.

 

[lonewolf]

My neighbors know little of me as well, I project the image of a semi-retired contractor who is basically a stereotype city born consumer, which I am to a good degree lol. I never discuss the future, I just chat amicably about the now as they all do. My biggest challenge if the SHTF will be losing lots of weight, as they all will be no doubt.

Have you seen those images of Venezuelans, 40lb lighter in a year for most of them and they weren't all that beefy to start with.

Pets on the Menu as Venezuelans Starve
https://www.thedailybeast.com/zoo-animals-on-the-menu-as-venezuelans-starve
Some of them are well fed.

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I dont have anything to do with neighbours, Oh I say good morning when I meet them on the street or in the local corner shop but thats it, no one comes into my house and I dont go into theirs, I dont trust other people and I only have time for people who prepare and any communication is done on forums like this one and one other.

 

[Dave2001]

All the real estate salesmen and women trying to get people to buy land in Costa Rica remind me of a spider trying to get flies to move to her web.

I have been to Costa Rica and i dint see anything i liked there!!!

 

[randolphrowzee]

I guess you are not familiar with the maxim "The bigger they come, the harder they fall."

More like a pithy quip by someone who knows nothing about economics.