Rv: don't worry yourself about the little things. You and I are all good. As for who to shoot, the scopes I have can give me a clear pic of who is comming. As I said on another post, I don't think it will be just one or two persons that will be comming to get our stuff and do us harm. I think they will form gangs. If it's only one or two, Then I can watch they in the scope until they get closer and see if they are up to no good. With only one or two we can take care of business even when they are close. There will be at least 4 guns on them at all times. Like I said " I will not see my wife and daughter raped as long as Im alive". Now if they kill me, my wife and daughter will have the ability to protect themselves. They both shoot real well. In any case I will not take any chances when it comes to the well being of my family. We all have to die sometime and I've been ready to go for a long time. Again, you and I are all good.
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I'm not really sure when the SHTF that you want to be walking around trading peanut butter and jelly. You are probably best off eating what you have. lol If you are concerned with innocent bystanders well in a world that is every man for himself, no one is innocent. I learned that from my Father when he was in Vietnam. Children were used as weapons. How would I know that you don't have some kind of bomb or device in that jar. Unfortunately, if the world turns upside down, civilized people won't exist and I think it's all in how you perceive what the end will be. I for one will not be walking around and approach other people I don't know.
My concern is that once law and order are restored those who shot and killed people will be held accountable. Trying to prove they were about to rob or rape your wife and children wont be easy. A christian nation takes murder very seriously. Even in the wild west of the 1800s people were held accountable. And I believe people would want to barter food and perhaps other things they have. Extra medicine. Extra food. Maybe a cow for two goats. Or maybe, simply going stirbugs alone in the boonies, just want other human beings to talk to. People will have to communicate somehow.
In so large a country anarchy wont last that long.
That was just an example - see my other post of tonight. In time, people will have to communicate with each other and want to trade for things they don't have. Or trade off things they have too much of. For another example, say, 2 pigs for a dozen laying hens. Or a bottle of Aspirin for a bottle of peroxide. Although law and order will probably be established before that happens.
You would have to figure how likely that would be in this country. How many parents you know are willing to blow up their children to get your stash of food? This isn't Vietnam of the 60s and 70s. If everyone becomes paranoid, what happens in the long run? You just can't kill everyone coming along the roadways or near your home or farm. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I'm getting from some of the posts I've read here. And how long do most of you think it would last before law and order are restored? Months? Years?
I would not approach strangers either, but we all know our neighbors... and not all strangers will be out to kill and rape and pillage. Chaos and no Gov can't last long or this country will be taken over by another. Someone will "rule." As for a total Gov collapse... going broke,... think of Ft Knox in KY and God knows how many other gold stashes our Gov has hidden away.
Well, RVKitty, I for one think you are living in a fantasy world or at least thinking of one. When TSHTF there will be no law and order at all. And yes it will be every man for himself. If you think for one minute that I won't blow some Bast**ds head off that will be comming to hurt my family, then you really don't know anything about me. I will take my chances with God when the time come for judgement. If your husband is willing to let you and your family get robbed, raped, beat to a pulp, that is his choice. I for one love my family to much for that. I will also take my chances in court (if there ever is one) for killing some mother F**ker that will try to hurt my family. No, this isn't Vietnam (be thankful for that). You weren't in Nam, so all you know is what the news media told you. Some of us old timers that were there can tell you things that would make your head spin around. As for parents killing their kids for your food, there are parents killing their kids for NOTHING now. So do you really think they won't do it when it comes to their own survival? You better think again. You can live your life thinking that everything will be just lovely, but my personal opinion is that you will be living in a dream world. What is about to happen in the USA is going to be reality not fiction. Look around, our country is Broke. The US dollar is no longer backed by gold, in fact, it's really not backed at all. If China pulls their debt, we are sunk.
Kitty: you said that this is not Viet Nam and your right but you only have to look back a few years at Katrina. I lost a home in Katrina and was there for what happened there too. There was killing, looting, rapes by the hundreds if not thousands. So don't tell me it won't happen here. If you don't believe me, just investigate it for yourself. I know personally of at least 20 women that were raped in the Superdoom and many others raped on the street in broad daylight and no one did anything about it. Most people on this site say things about something they know personally, noy what they've heard. The news media didn't show pictures of Plaquimine Parish because of all the dead bodies floating around. I know how it was because I was there. I HAD a home in Belle Chasse(if you can read a map) check and see where it's at. Some of my relatives and friends homes were broken into by gangs and had anything of value stolen. If they had been there they would have been killed just like the many others that were killed, beaten, and yes raped by gangs of looters. There were some women that were raped over and over by gangs of over 7 or 8. So if there were 7 gang members and each one took only 2 TURNS, that means that the woman was raped 14 times in that one instance. If that is what you want for yourself, then keep believing all the crap you are saying. But until you've been there and been through it and know what it was really like, I don't think you should say anything about what you don't know. You don't know anything about Nam except what the news media wanted you to know. Ask anybody that was there and went through it. I know there are some in your area that were there and can tell you what really went on. Fact not fiction. I guess I said to much and might get thrown off this site, but I had to say it. I hope I didn't offend anyone else. I just said the facts. If Im to be judged for that, well so be it. Im not going to let my family go through any of the horiffic things that are comming. The only way they will have to go through any of it is if I'm DEAD DEAD DEAD. I was willing to die in Nam and was willing to die during Katrina to protect my family and I'm more willing to die now to protect them. ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THE SAME?
I too have the perimeter of the house set up with interlocking fields of fire at different ranges
this is an area i know absolutely nothing about except for a couple things some 18 series guys showed me
Mastercajun, you definitely did not offend me in the least. I agree with you.
Thanks old_anorak. I didn't think I would offend anyone else. I just had to speek my mind. I've been there and seen what people turn into when things get bad. And we haven't seen anything like what is about to happen in this country. I love my family more than anything on this earth and will die to protect them. I was willing to die to protect this country and my fellow citizens in the past and will do so again if need be. Thanks again old_anorak. By the way how is your headache? I've made alot of good freinds here and worry when some of you guys get down.
Mastercajun, thank you for asking. I finally ended up taking a shot for relief. I hate taking it because I don't like the side effects, but it had got to the point that trepanny (drilling a hole in the skull to relieve pressure or evil spirits) was sounding like a really good idea.
Glad to hear you are doing better. If I could send you something over the air waves to help you, I sure would. I can to try to feel for you but I really don't know what you are going through. I hardly ever get a headache and when I di, it is so slight that it only pisses me off. My mother used to get them real bad and would say how much they hurt. I wish you all the luck in the world. Please don't try the evil spirits( there are enough of them in the world already). LOL
You're damn skippy Danil54grl.
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Girl, I know you would be able to take care of yourself in most any situation. And more power to ya. My husband is way to soft and I have told him that before, dealing with renters. I am the hardball and will kick anyone out who starts trouble in a heartbeat. I don't do the "6 month lease" thing. It's month to month, with the understanding that if anything goes wrong I have an option to say "Bye Bye". I would shoot anyone who threatened my family and would not let anyone come onto my property that I don't know. I tend to be very cautious of strangers, and for good reasons.
Sounds about the same as it is here. He's the kind-hearted soul, me... well I like to think I'm a nice person, but people know me.
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Sounds like it. I can be nice when need be. We have one renter that is a dear freind who is also an old cowboy from Colorado county. He can take care of the livestock when we cant. (Only had to once because we were stuck in Houston moving son #2 and his wife into their new home) We would have done it, being 4 hours late, but he called and we said yeah, go ahead. He is disabled now due to his back being broken back in 2000 by a bull. If it wasn't for his dog Chance (which he still has), there is no telling. I consider this man family, mainly because of all his knowledge he has been able to pass along to me.
Yes, moderation. You are so right. Now if everyone or most felt that way where food is concerned the hosps and Dr's offices would be almost empty.
I doubt your child would starve to death before eating something she doesn't like. Hunger is a powerful urge. After a day or two, and she wont die in that time period (she diabetic?), she will be willing to eat her non-favorite foods. It is easier to start them at weaning time to eat everything. I agree there. With my son the food was put on the table. If he didn't like it he didn't eat. He quickly learned to eat everything and anything or go hungry. I worked full time and didn't have the time or patience with a picky eater. I saw what some of my friends were going through with picky kids. I believe I did the right thing because he's still in perfect health at the age of 48. A few years ago he went vegetarian.
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I have dehydrated eggs and ground them into powder. I scramble 12 (do not cook) eggs first and put it on a liner and dehydrate for 16 hours. I have only cooked with it, so not sure of the self life in mylar bags.
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What type of dehydrator do you use?
I'll have to look to see what mine is, I picked it up at a rummage sale still in it's box.
I'm still waiting to use my Christmas /birthday present. Hubs got me a new saddle and it's been so damned nasty I'm not about to take it outside let alone put it on a mud ball calling itself a horse.
Well that'll be about May... maybe.
Aside from the saturated fats, you're not addressing the preservatives such as nitrate in the bacon. Home made bacon, leaner and with no nitrates, would be safer.
No amount of exercise will negate a poor diet of refined carbs, salty foods and saturated fat. Not all of our grandparents were on such unhealthy diets. Toxic crap in the environment, in our water and in our food is another cancer-causing ballgame altogether.
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Entomoplagy.
80% of the world does it.
High society frowns upon it.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomophagy
Entomoplagy.
80% of the world does it.
High society frowns upon it.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomophagy
I won't eat bacon grease (except post SHTF) since I try to be health conscious, but I have made soap from bacon grease and lye as an experiment, and it worked well...but not as well as vegetable oil.
Also, a mixture of bacon grease and peanut butter will lure just about any animal into a Havahart trap very quickly.
I save bacon grease for these reasons alone, and freeze it in a coffee can in the freezer.
Also, a mixture of bacon grease and peanut butter will lure just about any animal into a Havahart trap very quickly.
I save bacon grease for these reasons alone, and freeze it in a coffee can in the freezer.
come SHTF we'll eat what is available, many wont I guess because of the yuck factor but they will be the ones that don't survive.
