Darwinism at work in Michigan

[BillMasen]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...tay-at-home-order-calling-it-tyranny-11973905

 

[DrHenley]

What is that expression? "Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind"

 

[Mountain trapper]

There's protests in 10 States now over the unconstitutional government shutdown orders. With more protests planned. Some brave state legislatures and county sheriff's are encouraging defiance of the government shutdown as "unconstitutional an unAmerican".
We don't all live in NYC.
Hospitials are getting extra money from the "Cares" act to inflate the numbers of deaths blamed on the China flu.

 

[KateMTx]

There's protests in 10 States now over the unconstitutional government shutdown orders. With more protests planned. Some brave state legislatures and county sheriff's are encouraging defiance of the government shutdown as "unconstitutional an unAmerican".
We don't all live in NYC.
Hospitials are getting extra money from the "Cares" act to inflate the numbers of deaths blamed on the China flu.

Still doesn't change the fact that there were more than twice the average number of deaths in NYC between 3/4/20 and 4/4/20.

 

[BillMasen]

Bunch of pricks looking for an excuse to wave their guns around. It would have been far more effective if they were not trying to play Red Dawn or Rambo. Public opinion would have been far more effective if they marched ( well spaced) with their FAMILIES and EMPLOYEES to show the true effect of the lockdown is having on real lives.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Still doesn't change the fact that there were more than twice the average number of deaths in NYC between 3/4/20 and 4/4/20.

Like I said; we don't all live in NYC.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Bunch of pricks looking for an excuse to wave their guns around. It would have been far more effective if they were not trying to play Red Dawn or Rambo. Public opinion would have been far more effective if they marched ( well spaced) with their FAMILIES and EMPLOYEES to show the true effect of the lockdown is having on real lives.

Funny, I didn't see any "pricks" waving their guns around. All I saw on the news were concerned citizens with their families worried about our countries economy being destroyed and their life savings and livelihoods being wiped out. Very legitimate concerns.

 

[BillMasen]

Funny, I didn't see any "pricks" waving their guns around. All I saw on the news were concerned citizens with their families worried about our countries economy being destroyed and their life savings and livelihoods being wiped out. Very legitimate concerns.

Rubbish they did not need to turn up armed to the teeth just to make a fair and just protest against a power crazed Mayor or Governor, If they had marched as honest decent families and employees they would have had the media on their side. All they did was give more fuel to the left.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Rubbish they did not need to turn up armed to the teeth just to make a fair and just protest against a power crazed Mayor or Governor, If they had marched as honest decent families and employees they would have had the media on their side. All they did was give more fuel to the left.

Again, I didn't see anyone "armed to the teeth", what ever that means. But if some people were exercising their Constitutional rights, so what? If I were to attend one of these protests I personally wouldn't be carrying a firearm. But if I saw someone else that was, I wouldn't be a frightened little lamb over it either.

 

[HAPPYGOLUCKY]

I get standing up for your Freedom, Rights, Different Views. And I'm all for ones right to bear arms. but was it really necessary to carry your automatic weapons out around so many people?? I'm not even taking the chance around some inexperience, thrill seeking trigger happy moron to get excited and cause and accident. (of course not all gun carrying ppl are like that) But in a group this large how do you know? If it was the other way around and StayIn was not given and a loved one dies they'd be protesting that they weren't protected enough. I'm just stay buggin in minding my own business. SMH what is wrong with me today, I'm never this openly opinionated.

 

[DrHenley]

Arctic, don't forget, most parts of the world, and many parts of the US are inhabited by hoplophobes.

 

[DrHenley]

I get standing up for your Freedom, Rights, Different Views. And I'm all for ones right to bear arms. but was it really necessary to carry your automatic weapons out around so many people??

How do you know they were automatic weapons?

 

[HAPPYGOLUCKY]

How do you know they were automatic weapons?

lol I don't Doc. couldn't hardly tell you the difference in a shot gun or rifle. should have just left it at weapon. I know that my gut feeling last month had me call up my paw paw and ask for a pistol and a 101 on how not to shoot myself. The feeling of urgency to know how to protect my family over took the fear of what guns can do. in regards to how easy it is for accidents to happen. plus I knew that I was not responsible enough to have access to one when I was with my Ex. My Temper and His Mouth + gun = me doing life with regret. I've grown up and matured some since then.

 

[Proud Prepper]

I get standing up for your Freedom, Rights, Different Views. And I'm all for ones right to bear arms. but was it really necessary to carry your automatic weapons out around so many people?? I'm not even taking the chance around some inexperience, thrill seeking trigger happy moron to get excited and cause and accident. (of course not all gun carrying ppl are like that) But in a group this large how do you know? If it was the other way around and StayIn was not given and a loved one dies they'd be protesting that they weren't protected enough. I'm just stay buggin in minding my own business. SMH what is wrong with me today, I'm never this openly opinionated.

I'm still more worried about the Morons that dont have guns, that are always trying to limit and take away my freedoms based on what ifs! What if a anti gun leftists is outraged at seeing these constitutional free people protesting and there so worked up that they crash there car into others? It's all nonsense.

 

[HAPPYGOLUCKY]

I'm still more worried about the Morons that dont have guns, that are always trying to limit and take away my freedoms based on what ifs! What if a anti gun leftists is outraged at seeing these constitutional free people protesting and there so worked up that they crash there car into others? It's all nonsense.

True. they (anti gun) are more likely to lash out and act a fool with a picket sign. I stand in support of right to own and definitely know that I'm safer with the my friends and basement full of guns. me myself I'm just a scary cat thinking the worse. I am however going and taking a trained professional course in gun safety and making myself more comfortable and confident to own my own.

 

[HAPPYGOLUCKY]

My Paw Pay gave me his first pistol (from 50 yr ago) It's a 9 bullet .22 revolver. smooth shot. Don't know much about guns. but I felt pretty special that he passed it down to me
My little granny she got some itty bitty little thing in her front pocket everywhere she goes. They are very avid hunters with a gun at reach in every room

 

[BillMasen]

Again, I didn't see anyone "armed to the teeth", what ever that means. But if some people were exercising their Constitutional rights, so what? If I were to attend one of these protests I personally wouldn't be carrying a firearm. But if I saw someone else that was, I wouldn't be a frightened little lamb over it either.

Oh come on AD you only had to look at the photos of the Rambo wannabes, they are exactly the type who give pro gun ownership types like us a bad name. These show offs are the " Hold my beer and watch me...." types.

 

[Mountain trapper]

I get standing up for your Freedom, Rights, Different Views. And I'm all for ones right to bear arms. but was it really necessary to carry your automatic weapons out around so many people?? I'm not even taking the chance around some inexperience, thrill seeking trigger happy moron to get excited and cause and accident. (of course not all gun carrying ppl are like that) But in a group this large how do you know? If it was the other way around and StayIn was not given and a loved one dies they'd be protesting that they weren't protected enough. I'm just stay buggin in minding my own business. SMH what is wrong with me today, I'm never this openly opinionated.

I really doubt that anyone had "automatic" weapons there. Even if they did, so what? I'm sure that they jumped through all the hoops and paid all the fees. But you are right about one thing; you are being very opinionated and really jumping to conclusions about some of the people at these protests.

 

[Mountain trapper]

Oh come on AD you only had to look at the photos of the Rambo wannabes, they are exactly the type who give pro gun ownership types like us a bad name. These show offs are the " Hold my beer and watch me...." types.

You must be getting your distortated view of these protesters from the BBC or some other fake news outlet. I saw the pictures on the news again today and didn't see any of the type of people that your describing here. Btw, these protests are growing every day.

 

[KateMTx]

Like I said; we don't all live in NYC.

It will happen elsewhere if we don't take precautions.

 

[tmttactical]

Rubbish they did not need to turn up armed to the teeth just to make a fair and just protest against a power crazed Mayor or Governor, If they had marched as honest decent families and employees they would have had the media on their side. All they did was give more fuel to the left.

Says the guy that can't own these items. Looks like Sour grapes too me. I don't care if they were armed to the teeth, That is their constitutional right. We don't have to plead to show our dislike and we don't have to be disarmed either. We learned from our tea party.

 

[DrHenley]

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[GaRp58]

I am however going and taking a trained professional course in gun safety and making myself more comfortable and confident to own my own.

Hi HGL, that was the most responsible and grown-up statement I have ever read from anybody in this forum, another forum or in any newspaper and magazine. Hang in there to exercise your God given and from the Bill of Rights and Constitution verified right to protect you and yours from them and those....Bravo!! Gary

 

[BillMasen]

Says the guy that can't own these items. Looks like Sour grapes too me. I don't care if they were armed to the teeth, That is their constitutional right. We don't have to plead to show our dislike and we don't have to be disarmed either. We learned from our tea party.

Grow up, how infantile is your reply, FYI I own two shotguns, and I support fully their constitutional right, but they are still morons trying to inflame a situation.

 

[BillMasen]

You must be getting your distortated view of these protesters from the BBC or some other fake news outlet. I saw the pictures on the news again today and didn't see any of the type of people that your describing here. Btw, these protests are growing every day.

Skull Masks, Body armour, load bearing vests, tactical holsters, fully fitted AR15s , Openly provoctive and WAY over the top. I fully agree 100% with both the right to protest AND the right to bear arms but those guys are just trouble.

Take out the humourous bit and look at how these people have turned up for a PEACEFUL PROTEST, they are just looking for trouble. Now loook at the good, honest, decent peaceable citizens behind them, most probably still armed with pistols, but not threatening or aggressive.

 

[BillMasen]

Hi HGL, that was the most responsible and grown-up statement I have ever read from anybody in this forum, another forum or in any newspaper and magazine. Hang in there to exercise your God given and from the Bill of Rights and Constitution verified right to protect you and yours from them and those....Bravo!! Gary

Hear Hear I second that comment.

 

[tmttactical]

Grow up, how infantile is your reply, FYI I own two shotguns, and I support fully their constitutional right, but they are still morons trying to inflame a situation.

If the situation was inflamed where are the arrests? No reports of any violence, so it is YOUR fear that is the problem. Your fear was inflamed. Your perception of the right to bear arms was disrespected. Whoopee, you own two shotguns, is that the best you can do? I own shotguns, 2 AR15 platforms, a semi-auto pistol and a long gun. I can even own a full automatic weapon, if I want to spend the big cash. Your kind of support for the 2nd is lacking a backbone. You support the 2nd IF it does not scare you. If the presentation of arms fits within YOUR perception of what is acceptable, you support the 2nd. It is that kind of support that got you limited to whimpy hunting firearms, and even underpowerd pellet rifles. You can be arrested for defending yourself in your own home. You can be arrested for calling somebody a name or uttering a racial slur. You have given up most of your rights and now it appears you have given up some of your backbone, where the presence of a armed citizen scares you and make your to resort to name calling and labeling them.

 

[BillMasen]

If the situation was inflamed where are the arrests? No reports of any violence, so it is YOUR fear that is the problem. Your fear was inflamed. Your perception of the right to bear arms was disrespected. Whoopee, you own two shotguns, is that the best you can do? I own shotguns, 2 AR15 platforms, a semi-auto pistol and a long gun. I can even own a full automatic weapon, if I want to spend the big cash. Your kind of support for the 2nd is lacking a backbone. You support the 2nd IF it does not scare you. If the presentation of arms fits within YOUR perception of what is acceptable, you support the 2nd. It is that kind of support that got you limited to whimpy hunting firearms, and even underpowerd pellet rifles. You can be arrested for defending yourself in your own home. You can be arrested for calling somebody a name or uttering a racial slur. You have given up most of your rights and now it appears you have given up some of your backbone, where the presence of a armed citizen scares you and make your to resort to name calling and labeling them.

You are talking out of your arse, There is no need for arrests the LEOS could see that BUT it is simply MORE ammo for the Anti Gunners to latch onto and those left wing MOFOS are gaining ground in the US just like they did here. AGAIN I own what I need, can afford and legally own, I have silencers on my Air rifles, I dont need special permission for them Americans do . I can if I want to apply for the relevent permits even work my way up to bolt action 50 cal, I cannot own a full auto but then again I dont NEED to (would be nice though) . I am NOT scared of anything (except my wife) I am simply trying to point out those guys are there NOT to protest peacefully like most of the crowd they are trying to PROVOKE a response from the authorities. Masks, LBVs Assault Rigs At a PEACEFUL PROTEST is a THREAT to the authorities. The dude nicely dressed casually with the cargos, light jacket and AR15 looked very acceptable, the Rambo wannabes are ********. Americans can ALSO be arrssted for defending their homes if they use EXCESSIVE or DISPROPORTIONATE force, American can be arrested for verbal abuse or racial slurs. My backbone is fine as my military record proves, And again I am not scared of armed citizens I fully respect that right. How would you reract if the Rambo Wannbe marched into the local school to argue with his kids teachers about poor grades, or of he stormed into the supermarket because he shopping was defective. ? its EXESSIVE, PROVOCATIVE and only feeds the anti gunners rhetoric.

 

[DrHenley]

Skull Masks, Body armour, load bearing vests, tactical holsters, fully fitted AR15s , Openly provoctive and WAY over the top. I fully agree 100% with both the right to protest AND the right to bear arms but those guys are just trouble.

You do realize that is a Photoshopped image, right?

 

[BillMasen]

You do realize that is a Photoshopped image, right?

I do not think it is Doc it appeared in multiple UK news and media sites. Below are the originals that were seen on Fox, Sky, Mail and Telegraph. I ADMIRE their great kit and their BALLS but there is a time and place..................... But hey ho as it has been pointed out its their guarenteed right to do this even though they feed the anti gun lobby more ammo to be used against them.